re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread David Megginson
Tony Peden writes: > It looks like this may have helped crosswind handling on the ground > considerably. The relatively small amount of testing I've done shows > that the c172 will sit still in up to a 15 knot crosswind and turn very > slowly in 20 knots. > > Let us know what you think.

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread Tony Peden
On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 05:52, David Megginson wrote: > Tony Peden writes: > > > It looks like this may have helped crosswind handling on the ground > > considerably. The relatively small amount of testing I've done shows > > that the c172 will sit still in up to a 15 knot crosswind and turn ve

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread David Megginson
Tony Peden writes: > I didn't look at everything, but the nose wheel was in NONE and the > mains CASTERED as far back as I looked (which went back to the beginning > of time for the configurable gear). I can't explain the CASTERED mains, > but I understood what you call steer groups to be br

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread David Megginson
David Megginson writes: > Note a second problem with this code: it uses getDrPos (the actual > rudder position) and ignores maxSteerAngle from the config file. A > better option would probably be > > SteerAngle = SteerGain*FCS->GetDrCmd()*maxSteerAngle*RADTODEG; For RADTODEG, read DEGTO

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:29:40 -0400 David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Here's an excerpt from FGLGear.cpp: > > case bgNose: > SteerGain = -0.50; > BrakeFCoeff = rollingFCoeff; > break; > >In other words, if gear belongs to bgNone, it gets >SteerGain=0.0, s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:15:54 -0400 David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >For RADTODEG, read DEGTORAD. Use degtorad and radtodeg These are consts from the FGJSBBase class. This is where commonly used constants are being migrated to, instead of #defines, which we are moving away fro

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt writes: > I may be guilty, here. Note that this file needs to be > gone through again with a fine tooth comb and validated. > Just when I think I can't become more overwhelmed than I > already am ... Wife pregnant with triplets again? (Don't laugh, my wife has a friend who had tw

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread Tony Peden
On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 06:29, David Megginson wrote: > Tony Peden writes: > > > I didn't look at everything, but the nose wheel was in NONE and the > > mains CASTERED as far back as I looked (which went back to the beginning > > of time for the configurable gear). I can't explain the CASTERED

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread Jon Berndt
> Is there some reasoning behind setting the steering gains according to > the brake selection? This makes no sense to me. It looks to me like > their needs to be a separate steering selection (or just specify the > gain in the config file). Agreed. I beg your indulgence - let me have a look at

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-19 Thread David Megginson
Tony Peden writes: > The 48 in number checks with my copy of the POH (from which many > other numbers have been derived, so we should probably stick with > that) You've talked before about forking, and that might not be a bad idea. Right now, we're more-or-less targetting a 172R, but the 48 n

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-19 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 04:26, David Megginson wrote: > Tony Peden writes: > > > The 48 in number checks with my copy of the POH (from which many > > other numbers have been derived, so we should probably stick with > > that) > > You've talked before about forking, and that might not be a bad i

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-19 Thread David Megginson
Tony Peden writes: > > My suggestion is that c172.xml (and --aircraft=c172) would disappear > > altogether, and we'd have c172p.xml and c172r.xml instead. > > I don't really object to that -- except that I wonder how many folks > will be able to really tell the difference. Surely, even in

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-19 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 05:27, David Megginson wrote: > Tony Peden writes: > > > > My suggestion is that c172.xml (and --aircraft=c172) would disappear > > > altogether, and we'd have c172p.xml and c172r.xml instead. > > > > I don't really object to that -- except that I wonder how many folks

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-19 Thread David Megginson
Tony Peden writes: > Does the R have a 40 deg flap detent? No. The 172R and 172P allow up to 30deg flaps, but the 172M (mid 1970s) goes to 40deg -- it feels like dragging a parachute. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/ __

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-19 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 06:19, David Megginson wrote: > Tony Peden writes: > > > Does the R have a 40 deg flap detent? > > No. The 172R and 172P allow up to 30deg flaps, but the 172M (mid > 1970s) goes to 40deg -- it feels like dragging a parachute. That's typical. You get to a point with flap

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-19 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 06:34, Tony Peden wrote: > On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 06:19, David Megginson wrote: > > Tony Peden writes: > > > > > Does the R have a 40 deg flap detent? > > > > No. The 172R and 172P allow up to 30deg flaps, but the 172M (mid > > 1970s) goes to 40deg -- it feels like draggin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-19 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 06:52, Alex Perry wrote: > > Does the R have a 40 deg flap detent? > > My understanding is that the 40 deg flap setting (over the whole family) > is actually related to max gross weight. If you want the 40 deg then you > will be limited to 2300 lb; if you make do with 30 d