Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-10 Thread Ron Artstein
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Furthermore - RedHat themselves distribute "RedHat Linux 9" as > free downloads from their site, without any accompanying > support. As such, it is them (the trademark holder) that > decided that the specific ISOs can be called "RedHat Linux 9". > Unle

Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Haim Ravia wrote: While I have my own reservations regarding the Red Hat policy, let me offer you the following simple guideline: what is right = what is legal. Not trying to open an old discussion again, but I would like it explained again, if you can. As far as I understand Trademark law -

Re: [Haifux] CD Logos - we have explicit permission

2003-11-10 Thread Ez-Aton
On Monday 10 November 2003 13:41, Shachar Raindel wrote: > This clean the first 3 CDs (we only need to fix the instalee forms > now...). We still need to fix the updates CD. The updates CD does not try to be RH Linux, and it is not a modified version of RH. It is no more then updates, made by Rh

RE: [Haifux] CD Logos - we have explicit permission

2003-11-10 Thread Haim Ravia
Well,,, I should have read these pages also :( Thanks, Alon. I imagine Haifux should qualify as a "Linux User Group" so the changed neede are adding a printed document with the content described below. > -Original Message- > From: Haifux - Haifa Linux Club > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On B

Re: [Haifux] CD Logos - we have explicit permission

2003-11-10 Thread Shachar Raindel
This clean the first 3 CDs (we only need to fix the instalee forms now...). We still need to fix the updates CD. On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Alon Altman wrote: > From http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/guidelines/page9.html : > > Educational Institutions, Not-For-Profits, Linux User Groups

Re: [Haifux] CD Logos - we have explicit permission

2003-11-10 Thread Alon Altman
We should prepare a small page saying (a) we give no warranties and (b) This distribution does not include support (either technical or developer) services from Red Hat but that such services may be purchased from Red Hat separately. This page will be given to anyone who buys a CD set. Note tha

RE: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-10 Thread Haim Ravia
RAVIA; 'Shachar Shemesh'; 'Haifux' > Subject: RE: [Haifux] CD logos > > > > > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Orna Agmon wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Haim Ravia wrote: > > > > > Read the Red Hat FAQs. > > >

RE: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-10 Thread Haim Ravia
Couldn't agree more (although I ache the loss of a potentially good case :) > -Original Message- > From: Orna Agmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 12:54 PM > To: RAVIA > Cc: 'Maor Meir'; 'Shachar Shemesh'; &

RE: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-10 Thread Maor Meir
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Orna Agmon wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Haim Ravia wrote: > > > Read the Red Hat FAQs. > > > > /me is reading the FAQ. > > There is nothing unclear about this: The updates CD is not the problem: it > is the three RH cds. We, in this case hamakor, which is the legal body

RE: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-10 Thread Orna Agmon
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Haim Ravia wrote: > Read the Red Hat FAQs. > /me is reading the FAQ. There is nothing unclear about this: The updates CD is not the problem: it is the three RH cds. We, in this case hamakor, which is the legal body, is selling CDs, and getting money. It does not matter tha

RE: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-10 Thread Haim Ravia
Read the Red Hat FAQs. > -Original Message- > From: Maor Meir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 12:16 PM > To: RAVIA > Cc: Shachar Shemesh; Haifux > Subject: Re: [Haifux] CD logos > > > > Regarding the first 3 CDs they are tr

Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-10 Thread Alon Altman
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Maor Meir wrote: > > Regarding the first 3 CDs they are truely Redhat CDs. > The last CD contains redhat updates and a few more things > which are by no means redhat. > > I do think we should add an inner cover(at least for the updates CD) > making it abundantly clear, that th

Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-10 Thread Maor Meir
Regarding the first 3 CDs they are truely Redhat CDs. The last CD contains redhat updates and a few more things which are by no means redhat. I do think we should add an inner cover(at least for the updates CD) making it abundantly clear, that this CD was not compiled by RedHat but does contain t

Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-10 Thread Ez-Aton
I agree it is using their trademark, but, we are not trying to redistribute the RH Linux itself, regarding the last CD, but we are distributing Haifux updates for a well known (and unchanged) RH distro. Had we write "Redhat Linux" on the CDs, and they were not RH, well... we were in trouble, bu

Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-10 Thread Haim Ravia
rney :-) Haim - Original Message - From: "Shachar Shemesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Orna Agmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Alon Altman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Haifux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 11:39

Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Maor Meir wrote: On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Orna Agmon wrote: On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Alon Altman wrote: Hi, The CD designs for the Linux day are available at http://www.haifux.org/newcomers/cd-logo/ Alon Very pretty. I like the updates design more, thou

Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-09 Thread Maor Meir
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Orna Agmon wrote: > > >On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Alon Altman wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hi, > >>The CD designs for the Linux day are available at > >>http://www.haifux.org/newcomers/cd-logo/ > >> > >>Alon > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >Very pretty. I like the updat

Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Orna Agmon wrote: On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Alon Altman wrote: Hi, The CD designs for the Linux day are available at http://www.haifux.org/newcomers/cd-logo/ Alon Very pretty. I like the updates design more, though. But- what about RH wishing people to avoid the usage of the trademark RedHat

Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-09 Thread Maor Meir
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Raindel Shachar wrote: > Aren't we limited to 3 or 2 colors? I counted few more on that design, and > simple dithering filter will make it look really bad. No we get full color, you are out of date slighltly(there was an email about this). Meir. > On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Alon

Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-09 Thread Raindel Shachar
Aren't we limited to 3 or 2 colors? I counted few more on that design, and simple dithering filter will make it look really bad. On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Alon Altman wrote: > Hi, > The CD designs for the Linux day are available at > http://www.haifux.org/newcomers/cd-logo/ > > Alon > > -- > This messa

Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-09 Thread Orna Agmon
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Alon Altman wrote: > Hi, > The CD designs for the Linux day are available at > http://www.haifux.org/newcomers/cd-logo/ > > Alon > > Very pretty. I like the updates design more, though. But- what about RH wishing people to avoid the usage of the trademark RedHat when re-di

Re: [Haifux] CD logos

2003-11-09 Thread Adir Abraham
Nice. I'm impressed. Way to go. On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Alon Altman wrote: > Hi, > The CD designs for the Linux day are available at > http://www.haifux.org/newcomers/cd-logo/ > > Alon > > -- Adir Abraham Technion's Ad