you HAVE to run it like that?
May I ask why?
He's being held hostage by a slightly MS-brainwashed penguin that can't make
up it's mind on OS?
Run linux!
no, windows!
no, linux!
no, windows!
Seriously, this sounds like the "worst of both worlds" solution. Why in
$DIETY's name would you run
actually, top's "load average" has very little to do with CPU usage.
All it tells you is how many processes were competing for / using *any
amount* of CPU in a given time period. It doesn't tell you what
percentage of CPU is being used, you can have a load average in the
5.x range and still have th
On Friday, June 24, 2005 8:59 PM:
DaiTengu [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke forth:
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:15:27 -0500, Michael Webber
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> No, I have to run it like this. I dont want opinions on
>> getting rid of virtual server. Im asking if you know
>> the answer or solutio
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:15:27 -0500, Michael Webber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, I have to run it like this. I dont want opinions on getting rid of
virtual server. Im asking if you know the answer or solution other then
getting rid of virtual server. If you dont dont reply.
you HAVE to
Actually, the top utility will track utilization across all CPU's quite
nicely. No reason to turn HT off to understand what the system is doing.
Start the top program and then type 1 (the number one). This should give
a load average by CPU display in the summary area.
Matt Donnon wrote:
I'm sur
You own a game server hosting company? *Shudder*
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Webber
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:20 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] Linux on virutal server
Hello. Please read th
Don't post to the "linux" hlds mailing list with windows problems and you won't
get smart ass replys. Espicialy with the set up you are trying to pull off. I
am realy curious why you chose to run linux virtual servers under Win2k3 for
hlds.
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 03:51:19PM -0700, Michael We
I'm sure you're capable of cramming more game servers on a single box.
its perfectly possible, but not with the pingboost and FPS your wanting.
These chew up quite a lot of processor time, and the HT is only confusing
the system as to the real load level.
Try it for a day. Disable HT and see wh
what makes you think anyone's mad? zoner. Looks like the server's
owning you, actually.
On 6/24/05, Michael Webber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> nevermind smart ass. I fixed it. Dont have to get mad becusae you dont
> know the answer. I turned off windows 2003 servers anti dos attack.No
> go
nevermind smart ass. I fixed it. Dont have to get mad becusae you dont
know the answer. I turned off windows 2003 servers anti dos attack.No
go on being an internet tuff guy.
Im cheap? I own the server.
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Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
To:
Subje
you're never going to have servers worth playing on running them like
that. CostCo's got cluesticks real cheap, go get some.
On 6/24/05, Michael Webber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, I have to run it like this. I dont want opinions on getting rid of
> virtual server. Im asking if you know the
There is no "solution" you cheap bastard. Either you own/rent/lease the box
or you don't. If you do then you run it on the main OS install. If you don't
then you take your cheap-bastard complaints to the steampowered forums.
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No, I have to run it like this. I dont want opinions on getting rid of
virtual server. Im asking if you know the answer or solution other then
getting rid of virtual server. If you dont dont reply.
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
To:
Subject: RE:
IMHO...running a latency-sensitive program in a virual machine is perfect
stupidity. You ask for someone to fix a problem that you created. Run the
game server from the main Win2k3 install and then seek support.
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Though I am tempted, I will not ask why anyone would configure a server
in such a way.
From your description, it sounds like the virtual server software is
dropping packets. I would suggest usin
Hello. Please read this carefully it is a very confusing situation. I own
a game server hosting company and this one server is really starting to be a
problem. Its a 20 man dod server on an amd64 processor that isnt using an
amd 64 bit kernel (linux).
The box is a Windows 2003 install, with vi
Swapping Memory and CPUs in about 30 mins, I have finished tested
every possible way to have the kernel built in all optimized / generic
modes. Last test on memory.
On 6/24/05, e-Plutonia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Running it as root for testing purposes, it ensures there are no
> permission iss
So if we jump this up to 2GB of RAM (we have 1GB now), you think we'll
be in better shape? Enough to be able to run 3-4 HLDS (pingboost 2 and
500fps)?
Thanks Sid!
- Matt
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The performance problem does not look to be due to high CPU load.The
first line of vmstat shows the utilization over the life of the machine.
The server averages 13% (sy + id) load. With the two servers
Running it as root for testing purposes, it ensures there are no
permission issues. If its a memory issue, why does the default kernel
work. What confused the hell out of Zach is the fact that there is no
situation where it "Happens" , its very random, right now, the GENERIC
kernel running, no patc
Exactly my point. :)
At 05:29 AM 6/24/2005, William Warren wrote:
HT is not going to help in this environment. Turning it off is
not going to hurt performance. It will more than likely help a
bit since the kernel scheduler is not having to juggle two fake
cpu's and can concentrate on the two r
HT or not - I'd still like to be able to run more than two instances of
HLDS on this hardware. If you guys are using similar specs, I'm sure
you're capable of cramming more game servers on a single box. 2
instances is pretty unreasonable to be honest. What are these big GSPs
doing to get so many i
It's not ideal as its a bad scenario with 3 servers on 2 cpu's however
you look at it, but I'd be surprised if you get better performance
with 3 servers on 2 cpu's with HT off. Not going to get lots of
improvement, but possibly a small amount I would guess.
I seriously doubt there will be any ch
I agree there's obviously only 2 real processors, but the theory is
kind of the same, the big problem is you have 2 processes and 2
processors currently working fine. That situation is ideal. The
problem is the 3rd process added as the 2 currently are sucking up the
best part of each cpu, and how t
the only thing HT might help is offloading other processes (like
nic/kernel/ide/scsi reqs). The thing to remember is you only have two
processors to use. HT helps you use the resources on them more
effectively, but doesn't magically make them a proper SMP solution.
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Out of the ether, e-Plutonia spewed forth the following bitstream:
> 11280 steamNAMI "/root/srcds/InstallRecord.blob"
Just a pointer... I'd HIGHLY recommend that you not run any non-system
software as root.
AlanC
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The genius of a good leader is to leave behind him a situation which
common
HT is not going to help in this environment. Turning it off is
not going to hurt performance. It will more than likely help a
bit since the kernel scheduler is not having to juggle two fake
cpu's and can concentrate on the two real cpus.
Ian mu wrote:
Urgh don't turn off HT with 3 servers, pro
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:06:52 -0700
e-Plutonia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bubbled:
> 11280 steamCALL old.recv(0xa,0xbfbfe268)
> 11280 steamRET old.recv -1 errno -11 Unknown error: -11
>
> The error continues for several hundred lines and then..
Isn't -11 = EAGAIN??
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Hash table h
Urgh don't turn off HT with 3 servers, probably the worst thing you
can do (with 2 or 2 process is fine without). Thing to remember is
there's no accurate way of reading HT cpu usage, so they may look a
bit skewed, but check other things like fps and you should fine you'll
get more.
On 6/24/05, Ga
11280 steamRET read 1328/0x530
11280 steamCALL close(0x4)
11280 steamRET close 0
11280 steamCALL #91(0x2873,0x4000)
11280 steamRET #91 0
11280 steamCALL open(0xbfbfe260,0x241,0x1b6)
11280 steamNAMI "/compat/linux/root/srcds"
11280 steamNAMI "/root/srcd
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