Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-09-02 Thread Ray Hunter (v6ops)
Alexandru Petrescu 2 Sep 2015 11:31 Le 01/09/2015 18:06, Ray Hunter a écrit : inline Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Le 12/08/2015 14:20, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) a écrit : While I pay for it, I never use the millions of WiFi access points I can use here

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-09-02 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 01/09/2015 18:06, Ray Hunter a écrit : inline Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Le 12/08/2015 14:20, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) a écrit : While I pay for it, I never use the millions of WiFi access points I can use here in the Netherlands. I tried it once, walking in a small city. At the time the

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-09-01 Thread Ray Hunter
inline Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Le 12/08/2015 14:20, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) a écrit : While I pay for it, I never use the millions of WiFi access points I can use here in the Netherlands. I tried it once, walking in a small city. At the time the handover was completed, the connectivity

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-09-01 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 12/08/2015 15:39, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) a écrit : On 12/08/15 15:18, "Teco Boot" wrote: How works *seamless* WiFi handover with same SSID, with different IPv6 subnets? The question is tempting, but I'd say the following: - a deployment with same SSID and different IP subnets is not goo

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-09-01 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 12/08/2015 14:20, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) a écrit : While I pay for it, I never use the millions of WiFi access points I can use here in the Netherlands. I tried it once, walking in a small city. At the time the handover was completed, the connectivity was gone. This is a question of use-

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-09-01 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Handovers between WiFi and self, or anything else are treated in the mobility Working Group (dmm). Handover is considered solved with protocols like Mobile IP, Fast MIP, Proxy-MIP and more. Nothing stops it from running in a home environment, other than maybe a question of where to place a Ho

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-08-20 Thread Ted Lemon
(This response was delayed by the unplanned obsolescence of my dear departed mail server, but I think it’s still vaguely relevant…) On Aug 12, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) mailto:evyn...@cisco.com>> wrote: > Not sure whether 'community wifi' belongs to this alias but anyway, there > ar

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-08-12 Thread Ray Hunter
Teco Boot wrote: Op 12 aug. 2015, om 12:27 heeft Juliusz Chroboczek het volgende geschreven: I still think the Homenet WG should pay far more attention to seamless WiFi handover, We're currently working on that with the WLAN-SI guys. They've got a nationwide mesh network (it's a small cou

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-08-12 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015, Teco Boot wrote: I myself believe in "temporal overlap", ie be connected to both networks for some time, finish whatever you were doing (if you were downloading video snippets for instance) and then start using the new connction. A lot of short-lived traffic could be han

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-08-12 Thread Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
On 12/08/15 15:18, "Teco Boot" wrote: > >How works *seamless* WiFi handover with same SSID, with different IPv6 >subnets? >Single subnet for a neighborhood, with all the multicast suppression? >Single subnet for a country? Not sure whether 'community wifi' belongs to this alias but anyway, there

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-08-12 Thread Teco Boot
> Op 12 aug. 2015, om 15:23 heeft Mikael Abrahamsson het > volgende geschreven: > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2015, Teco Boot wrote: > >> How works *seamless* WiFi handover with same SSID, with different IPv6 >> subnets? > > It doesn't work, regardless if IPv4 or IPv6 is used. Right. > > We need to

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-08-12 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015, Teco Boot wrote: How works *seamless* WiFi handover with same SSID, with different IPv6 subnets? It doesn't work, regardless if IPv4 or IPv6 is used. We need to move away from hosts seeing the address as permanent. SHIM6 seemed like a decent idea, but didn't pan out for

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-08-12 Thread Teco Boot
> Op 12 aug. 2015, om 14:20 heeft Eric Vyncke (evyncke) het > volgende geschreven: > >> >> >> >> While I pay for it, I never use the millions of WiFi access points I can >> use here in the Netherlands. I tried it once, walking in a small city. At >> the time the handover was completed, the c

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-08-12 Thread Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
> > > >While I pay for it, I never use the millions of WiFi access points I can >use here in the Netherlands. I tried it once, walking in a small city. At >the time the handover was completed, the connectivity was gone. It might >have to do with IEEE and IETF mismatch. Same SSID shall have same IP

Re: [homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-08-12 Thread Teco Boot
> Op 12 aug. 2015, om 12:27 heeft Juliusz Chroboczek > het volgende geschreven: > >> I still think the Homenet WG should pay far more attention to seamless >> WiFi handover, > > We're currently working on that with the WLAN-SI guys. They've got > a nationwide mesh network (it's a small countr

[homenet] WiFi handover [was: question: equal-cost multipath?]

2015-08-12 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> I still think the Homenet WG should pay far more attention to seamless > WiFi handover, We're currently working on that with the WLAN-SI guys. They've got a nationwide mesh network (it's a small country, granted, and they use the public Internet infrastructure whenever possible), and while they