SNAPSHOT: Please join us for an IBM System z9 Business Class announcement
on Thursday, April 27 at 16:30 UK.
Who thinks of these things, and do they have ANY contact with reality?
OK, guys. We've had an increasingly tough time over the past couple of
decades, mostly
because of IBM's software
In a message dated 4/24/2006 11:40:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
when was the last time a paid mainframe employee flew Business Class at
company
expense?
October, 1998 was my last time. It all depends on who your employer is, how
profitable they are, their
Phil Payne wrote:
SNAPSHOT: Please join us for an IBM System z9 Business Class announcement
on Thursday, April 27 at 16:30 UK.
Who thinks of these things, and do they have ANY contact with reality?
OK, guys. We've had an increasingly tough time over the past couple of
decades, mostly
Phil Payne wrote:
SNAPSHOT: Please join us for an IBM System z9 Business Class announcement
on Thursday, April 27 at 16:30 UK.
Who thinks of these things, and do they have ANY contact with reality?
OK, guys. We've had an increasingly tough time over the past couple of
decades, mostly
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/17/2006
at 06:01 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
There is a convention followed by some MUAs and mentioned in RFC 1738
(but not defined there -- does anyone know the origin?) of using ''
and '' to delimit broken URLS to be rejoined by the MUA.
I was
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what is the MIPS or MSUs of the particular models ???
MIPS are whatever you want them to be!
I wrote an article, admittedly for an IBM publication, and it was only 900
words, so I only scratched the surface.
But, MIPS are:
But what MSU/MIP value is assigned to an engine ???
It depends.
The first engine is 100%.
The second gives you 86% more (approx).
The next around 82%.
The 9th gives you ...
MSUs are assigned based on the total capacity of the CEC.
Not on the individual CP's.
And, MSUs are not the same as they
You might want to revisit the site.
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You might want to revisit the site.
Gee, in the US information about the z8 is only available under
non-disclosure.
Bob Shannon
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PPain wrote:
You might want to revisit the site.
BShannon wrote:
Gee, in the US information about the z8 is only available under
non-disclosure.
Bob Shannon
Now now Bob, don't be teasing the animals ...
[;)]
Dave Cole
Gee, in the US information about the z8 is only available under
non-disclosure.
IBM's asshole lawyer made damn sure I wasn't even offered one. But it makes no
difference to
how I work - I've never used illegally obtained information.
But he'd know that, wouldn't he?
If he'd ever bothered
Getting out of the zSeries analysis biz or just pushing it onto the back
burner?
The IBM mainframe stuff has moved here
Search Engine Relationship Management
Best Regards,
Sam Knutson, GEICO
Performance and Availability Management
In a message dated 4/17/2006 9:56:22 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now now Bob, don't be teasing the animals .
Too good to pass up
_http://www.uga.edu/~srel/ecoview1-29-06.htm_
(http://www.uga.edu/~srel/ecoview1-29-06.htm)
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In a message dated 4/17/2006 9:56:22 A.M. Central Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now now Bob, don't be teasing the animals .
Too good to pass up
Good story, Ed.
Thanks!
Dave
At 4/17/2006 12:32 PM, EFinnell wrote:
In a message dated 4/17/2006 9:56:22 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now now Bob, don't be teasing the animals .
Too good to pass up
http://www.uga.edu/~srel/ecoview1-29-06.htm
. There may be a
better way, of course.
Chris Mason
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Sent: Monday, 17 April, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: z8 ???
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In a message dated 4/17/2006 11:48:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The page cannot be displayed
There is a problem with the page you are trying to reach and it cannot
be displayed.
Just chop the http: thru .htm in browser window and it pops up.
Been fighting
Getting out of the zSeries analysis biz or just pushing it onto the back
burner?
Probably getting out of it eventually. My fellow webmasters would recoil in
shock if I
suggested there was something more difficult to deal with than Google - but
IBM's lawyers take
the biscuit for
Phil Payne wrote:
Getting out of the zSeries analysis biz or just pushing it onto the back burner?
There are now no other vendors interested in what IBM is going to do next with
its mainframes.
I haven't had a serious study question from another vendor for a year or more.
As a
Edward Jaffe wrote:
Phil Payne wrote:
Getting out of the zSeries analysis biz or just pushing it onto the
back burner?
There are now no other vendors interested in what IBM is going to do
next with its mainframes.
I haven't had a serious study question from another vendor for a year
or
And the MIPS tables have been pissing me off for some time. Modern workloads
are so complex
these numbers really are pretty useless.
More than.
I cannot tell everything I know, but:
1. They didn't test much of the big stuff. Rather, they produced a straight
line from 17+ (z/990) and 21+ (z9)
In a message dated 4/17/2006 5:37:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It was bad enough when we had to manage billing table for ISV's!
Now, depending on the age of the box, we now have multiple tables for IBM.
No wonder mainframe cost management is giving the plaform
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:57:49 +0200, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RESEARCH.FREESERVE.CO.UK wrote:
You might want to revisit the site.
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Which site ??? About the z900 withdrawal letter or something about the
z8 ???
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:00:12 -0500, Dave Kopischke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:57:49 +0200, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RESEARCH.FREESERVE.CO.UK wrote:
You might want to revisit the site.
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Which site ??? About the z900 withdrawal letter or something about the
z8
what is the MIPS or MSUs of the particular models ???
MIPS are whatever you want them to be!
I wrote an article, admittedly for an IBM publication, and it was only 900
words, so I only scratched the surface.
But, MIPS are:
Workload Dependent
Processor option dependent
Micro-code patch level
In a recent note, Chris Mason said:
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:54:47 +0200
In order to try and avoid this in the URLs I post, I put them on a separate
line or insert them in brackets with a space either side. There may be a
better way, of course.
There is a convention followed by
Edward Jaffe wrote:
Maybe it's just you.
I know you would just love that to be true for some vicarious, bizzare reason
of your own that
I've never been able to fathom, but it isn't. How many analysts are still
active in the
mainframe world? Seen Cheryl lately?
According to a presentation
IFLs, zAAPs, etc., subject to the
usual rule that the number of any type of speciality engines may not
exceed the number of OS
engines.
That rule only applies to zAAPs and (according to the press release)
zIIPs, not the other types of engines.
Using a System z9-109 as an example, all of
for a new machine,
does anyone out there with their finger on the pulse of IBM know anything
about a possible date for a z8 size processor ??? IBM did it with the z900
and then the z990, now I'm predicting they'll follow the z9 with a z8. The
timing is the problem for me. I'm trying to hold off
My unconfirmed source says in the next month or so...
snip
Any crystal balls in the audience ???
/snip
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Isaac Yassin
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Staller, Allan
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
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My unconfirmed source says in the next month or so...
snip
Any crystal
.
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Behalf Of Kopischke, David G.
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:54 AM
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Subject: z8 ???
Greetings again,
We're in another cycle of hardware upgrades. It seems our z800 tapped
out after
Ditto, but with the caveat (rumored caveat that is) that the z8 boxes
won't go as small as the z890 boxes.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:54 AM
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The timing is the problem for me. I'm trying to hold off a z890 purchase so
our hardware doesn't go obsolete during shipment.
They've just (today) announced obsolessence of the z/900 (sales - June;
upgrades - October).
And, the z9 is upgradable from the z/990.
So, I wouldn't worry for awhile.
Do you have a link to the letter?
Dennis Roach
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All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my
According the unsolicited emails I have had the brazen temerity to open without
the written
permission of IBM's lawyers, we might expect a new system around 25 April.
There have been suggestions of a single-book system with 12 PUs - 8 of them
characterisable.
Up to four for operating system
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
The timing is the problem for me. I'm trying to hold off a z890 purchase so our
hardware doesn't go obsolete during shipment.
They've just (today) announced obsolessence of the z/900 (sales - June;
upgrades - October).
IMHO the announcement is quite irrelevant.
IMHO the announcement is quite irrelevant.
The OP was concerned about his equipment going obsolete.
I was trying to point out that it's not a great concern.
Also, you'll find that in North America, obsolete equipment/software is
relevant.
There's a different economic dynamic, in most cases.
As far as the z8 is concerned, you're going to have to wait until IBM announces
it.
Have you tried Hesh Wiener ( http://www.tech-news.com ) for pricing?
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