Gil,
Serious question - what would be the purpose for doing this? I know you can,
I'm just trying to grasp a good reason for doing so. Security by obscurity
(not valid in my mind)?
Thanks,
Rex
Alas, the padding and stripping mean that 'WOMBAT', 'WOMBAT ', and 'WOMBAT
',
distinct UNIX
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 21:28:26 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:
>
>Serious question - what would be the purpose for doing this? I know you can,
>I'm just trying to grasp a good reason for doing so. Security by obscurity
>(not valid in my mind)?
>
Because it's possible. Someone will do it. Test suite
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:59:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or
>create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error
>back to the user. Application filename validation is what leads to these
>inconsisten
sistencies.
Charles
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 19:58:06 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:59:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>
>>Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or
>>create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error
>>back to the user. App
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:59:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or
>create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error
>back to the user. Application filename validation is what leads to these
>inconsiste
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:01:09 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:59:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>
>>Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or
>>create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error
>>back to the user. Applic
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>Applications should diagnose but not "correct" user errors, and should use
>comoon system services to do so, where they exist. OS developers should
>provide services for validation. Neither application developers nor OS
>developers sho
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 15:44:14 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Applications should diagnose but not "correct" user errors, and should use
>comoon system services to do so, where they exist. OS developers should
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, at 23:57, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> Similarly, I once created a data set such as:
> DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=hlq.X.FOO-BAR
> No problem. Later, I tried
> DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=hlq.Y.FOO-BAR,
>DCB=hlq.X.FOO-BAR
> Again, the hyphen caused a syntax error. The re
mething foolproof, the universe comes up with a bigger fool.
Rex
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>OK, thanks. I hadn't considered the "I'm going to because I can" angle,
>namely because I'm more of the "why would you even want to do that, even if
>you can, it'll cause problems." Kind of guy. But I know the adage, every time
>somebo
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 13:59:02 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:
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>For dataset delete from 3.4?
>
>On the main panel
>
>Enter "/" to select option
>/ Confirm Data Set Delete
>/ Confirm Member Delete
>
>And on the delete panel
>
>Enter "/" to select option
> Set data s
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I *think* it remembers the option on the main pan
than have to recover a
> mistakenly deleted dataset once.
>
>
>
> YMMV. That's what makes horse races.
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> Charles
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