Re: Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9

2008-02-20 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:26:37 -0500, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Free advice: Always run DIRECTXA against your last known-good directory when the system comes up after a DR restore unless you know that the object and source directories are in sync. (You don't know, unless the system

Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9

2008-02-19 Thread Hamilton, Brian
Is anyone using DSS to backup their VM system under zOS and have you been successful in restoring and IPL'ing ? Sample of the DSS backup statements were using, DUMP TRACKS(0,0,3338,14) INDDNAME(DASD) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) ADMIN - CPVOLUME CANCELERROR

Re: Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9

2008-02-19 Thread Macioce, Larry
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:30 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9 Brian, Do you understand that if you backup any system from any other system, using tools which

Re: Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9

2008-02-19 Thread Mike Walter
. Hamilton, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/19/2008 11:19 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility

Re: Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9

2008-02-19 Thread Hamilton, Brian
, 2008 1:49 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9 We have used the method you show to restore a Linux guest and we were able to logon and use it with no problem we were using z/OS 1.6. But when we back up Linux

Re: Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9

2008-02-19 Thread David Boyes
Thanks, likewise our linux guests and VM itself is down. I was more curious around the cp allocations for page, spool tdisk were they preserved. Page is volatile by definition, so backing it up is kinda pointless. Ditto tdisk. Spool, you need to do with SPXTAPE if you expect it to be usable

Re: Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9

2008-02-19 Thread Mike Walter
01:00 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9 Thanks, likewise our linux guests and VM itself is down. I was more curious around

Re: Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9

2008-02-19 Thread Dave Yarris
by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 02/19/2008 12:19 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9 Is anyone using DSS

Re: Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9

2008-02-19 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Brian--The appends that followed yours and preceded mine are all good advice, HOWEVER and there is always one of those. If you don't use a VM based database, you don't have to worry about that. If you are, you'd better, at least, shut it down for the backup time. The comments about the

Re: Backing up and restoring zVM 5.2 using IBM's DSS backup utility under zOS 1.7/1.9

2008-02-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 02/19/2008 at 01:30 EST, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Solution: backup a system using its own products which are aware of these limitations, or use backup tools at rely on a client running on the system being backed up to get a stable, reliable, and _restorable_ backup.