Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-02 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with that. Proper handling is what I want in my foalshowever if I had a choice to purchase a 5 year old with improper handling, or one with very little to no handling, I would pick the later..at least I do not have to start off

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-02 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
--- Kim Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that if I politely and softly push her head away from me, she stops. I let my horses come close to me and there are some rules, no biting, no kicking, even at other horses when I am around, no pushing. They can be taught to follow the

RE: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-02 Thread Karen Thomas
especially people who do not know a lot about horses, even some who do, will treat foals almost like a big dog, forgetting that those foals will get a lot bigger and stronger, very fast, and what you could do safely at 2 months old, you can not do at a year old.. How much does a

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-02 Thread Janice McDonald
On 9/1/07, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Janice, Any horse that won't be fly sprayed at ten years is a horse that has gaps in ground training and some necessary handling was skipped.. If you don't have flies and other biting bugs where you live then there may not be a need for a

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-02 Thread Janice McDonald
honestly, in the end, the overimprinted horse and the horse never handled have about an equal amount of problems/issues. I say that, Judy says that, nobody listens. They just want to stick their horses in a field and leave them alone so they will be like feral cats instead of home raised

RE: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-02 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: especially people who do not know a lot about horses, even some who do, will treat foals almost like a big dog, forgetting that those foals will get a lot bigger and stronger, very fast, and what you could do safely at 2 months old, you can not

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:30:19 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: .however if I had a choice to purchase a 5 year old with improper handling, or one with very little to no handling, I would pick the later..at least I do not have to start off with correcting bad habits. Me too. It's easier to start with a

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread susan cooper
--- Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's easier to start with a clean slate than a horse that someone else has already messed up. And that is exactly why I bought babies! Then I know they have been handled correctly, and if I make a mistake, it is on me. Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:35:11 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: And that is exactly why I bought babies! Then I know they have been handled correctly, and if I make a mistake, it is on me. That's a good idea, but having seen how much people can mess up babies even before they are weaned (Oh it's just

RE: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread Karen Thomas
Maybe there is no such as thing as over handling foals. Could it boil down to correct handling or incorrect handling? Amen! Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 8/31/2007 5:21

RE: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread Karen Thomas
Me too. It's easier to start with a clean slate than a horse that someone else has already messed up. There are infinitely many combinations in the middle though, and when we are talking to intelligent, caring horsesmen, there's no reason to limit the discussions to either extreme - as I think

Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread Kim Morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a good idea, but having seen how much people can mess up babies even before they are weaned (Oh it's just soo cute when he nibbles/kicks/rears up and puts his feet on my shoulders - yuck) it's not

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread Janice McDonald
On 9/1/07, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a good idea, but having seen how much people can mess up babies even before they are weaned (Oh it's just soo cute when he nibbles/kicks/rears up and puts his feet on my shoulders - yuck) it's not infallible. Mic yes and like

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread Janice McDonald
I have my A number one guy, my main horse jas, he was not taken from a pasture til he was three and then abused for 30 days, dragged behind a tractor, lashed in the face for spooking, beaten for being afraid. Then I have my stonewall, orphaned foal, taken into the livingroom to be bottle fed on

RE: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Janice, Any horse that won't be fly sprayed at ten years is a horse that has gaps in ground training and some necessary handling was skipped.. If you don't have flies and other biting bugs where you live then there may not be a need for a horse to be fly sprayed. Just different perspective

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread Robyn Schulze
On 9/1/07, Kim Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a good idea, but having seen how much people can mess up babies even before they are weaned (Oh it's just soo cute when he nibbles/kicks/rears up and puts

Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread Kim Morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Robyn Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HEY JUDY! Can you re-post that photo of the moron w/ the colt, who's allowing said colt to not only have its front feet on the juy's shoulders, but is also biting the guy in the neck at the same time? I saw that,

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread Anna Hopkins
On 9/1/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but i cannot for the life of me comprehend how this horse got to be ten years old and dances like a nut when you try to fly spray him. Any horse that won't be fly sprayed at ten years is a horse that has gaps in ground training and some

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-09-01 Thread Ann Cassidy
On 9/1/07, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Janice, Any horse that won't be fly sprayed at ten years is a horse that has gaps in ground training and some necessary handling was skipped.. If you don't have flies and other biting bugs where you live then there may not be a need for a

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-08-31 Thread Judy Ryder
This is a perfect example of why not to over handle foals in my opinion.. Maybe there is no such as thing as over handling foals. Could it boil down to correct handling or incorrect handling? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-08-31 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:40:28 -0700, you wrote: Could it boil down to correct handling or incorrect handling? YES! Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-08-31 Thread Judy Ryder
Could it boil down to correct handling or incorrect handling? YES! That's reasonable. I don't think we want to give the public the impression that it's wrong to handle foals or that they should be left alone. For two reasons, it would be bad: for the humans and for the horse as it would

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-08-31 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could it boil down to correct handling or incorrect handling? YES! That's reasonable. I don't think we want to give the public the impression that it's wrong to handle foals or that they should be left alone. For two reasons, it

Re: Fw: Re: [IceHorses] Horse Training in Iceland / Handling Foals

2007-08-31 Thread Judy Ryder
I agree with that. Proper handling is what I want in my foalshowever if I had a choice to purchase a 5 year old with improper handling, or one with very little to no handling, I would pick the later..at least I do not have to start off with correcting bad habits. Correct.