Either Web Start or a standalone JAR would work. I'm not sure about
trying this with an applet, mainly because of security restrictions. (Web
Start has security restrictions as well, but you don't have to deal with
the possibility of a buggy browser JVM.)
Artur's script is a good start on this.
> I think that a user-friendly install-shield-like GUI wizard for the Windows
> folks would be very nice. You know, with check-boxes and "Next" buttons. :)
Heh, feel free to create such one. I am the one who hates GUI wizards.
If I would love them you can be sure I would prefer to use JBuilder lik
> > -) Backup of old versions
> > -) Rollback to older versions
> > -) Command-line and GUI interface (for those X-impaired people)
> > -) Proxy support (maybe)
> >Figuring out which bundles are updated could be accomplished by looking in
> >a central file or searching a remote filesystem, alth
> I think that a user-friendly install-shield-like GUI wizard for the
Windows
> folks would be very nice. You know, with check-boxes and "Next" buttons.
:)
Heh, feel free to create such one. I am the one who hates GUI wizards.
If I would love them you can be sure I would prefer to use JBuilder li
Althought we're getting off the topics of installers, I say I agree,
but that doesn't mean GUI's. If emacs people like GUI's they wouldn't
be emacs people. But we need better UI for jde in general. For
example, what's with the C-c C-v keybindings? This is only one key
off from the C-x C-c bind
Daniel Hegyi writes:
> > > I think that a user-friendly install-shield-like GUI wizard for the
> >Windows
> > > folks would be very nice. You know, with check-boxes and "Next" buttons.
> >:)
> >Heh, feel free to create such one. I am the one who hates GUI wizards.
> >If I would love them yo
> My personal opinion is that Emacs should become a little more user-friendly,
> otherwise IDEs like JBuilder and WebSphere Studio Enterprise Developer WILL
> take over, and Emacs will become a notepad on steroids. I don't know about
> you, but I have a tough time remembering just a few function
[This response is off topic, but it is hoped that it is useful to
someone.]
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 12:02:25PM -0800, Andrew Hyatt spake thus:
> For
> example, what's with the C-c C-v keybindings? This is only one key
> off from the C-x C-c binding which exits emacs. Not good.
I agree with the
Daniel Hegyi writes:
> > > I think that a user-friendly install-shield-like GUI wizard for the
> >Windows
> > > folks would be very nice. You know, with check-boxes and "Next"
buttons.
> >:)
> >Heh, feel free to create such one. I am the one who hates GUI wizards.
> >If I would love the
> My personal opinion is that Emacs should become a little more
user-friendly,
> otherwise IDEs like JBuilder and WebSphere Studio Enterprise Developer
WILL
> take over, and Emacs will become a notepad on steroids. I don't know
about
> you, but I have a tough time remembering just a few function
Gee, I really think you are being unreasonable here. I think JDE
could improve in user friendliness. A lot of things in emacs-land
can. That doesn't mean to switch to GUI's or anything. But JDE
SHOULD be user-friendly. You can have user-friendly emacs programs,
look at BBDB. It's usually not
Daniel Hegyi wrote:
Either Web Start or a standalone JAR would work. I'm not sure about
trying this with an applet, mainly because of security restrictions.
(Web
Start has security restrictions as well, but you don't have to deal with
the possibility of a buggy browser JVM.)
Artur's script is
> Is anybody working on a "JDEE installer" that would get ALL the
> required and
> optional packages (that the user selects in the setup process,
> such as ECB,
> Jalopy) and would set all the necessary settings (such as
> jde-bug-jdk-directory, jde-jdk-registry) and so
Andrew Hyatt writes:
>
> Althought we're getting off the topics of installers, I say I agree,
> but that doesn't mean GUI's. If emacs people like GUI's they wouldn't
> be emacs people. But we need better UI for jde in general. For
> example, what's with the C-c C-v keybindings? This is on
> > When
> > debugging, things should work like in edebug - editing is disabled,
> > "n" for next, "c" for continue, "e" for eval. This would help a lot.
> >
>
> This is a good idea that has occurred to me. The problem is getting
> the time to implement it. For me, it was so easy to rebin
Andrew Hyatt writes:
>
> Gee, I really think you are being unreasonable here. I think JDE
> could improve in user friendliness. A lot of things in emacs-land
> can. That doesn't mean to switch to GUI's or anything. But JDE
> SHOULD be user-friendly. You can have user-friendly emacs progr
On Wed, 04 Dec 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Emacs IS changing. The question is, is the change fast enough.
As far as I can tell, Gnus, in its infancy, used to be horrible.
Other newsreaders blew it away. Now, it does things other
newsreaders can't dream of doing.
Emacs had the issue that
Andy Piper writes:
> > Is anybody working on a "JDEE installer" that would get ALL the
> > required and
> > optional packages (that the user selects in the setup process,
> > such as ECB,
> > Jalopy) and would set all the necessary settings (suc
Andrew Hyatt writes:
> For example, what's with the C-c C-v keybindings? This is only one key
> off from the C-x C-c binding which exits emacs. Not good.
I think the point of these keybindings is that they are easy to type.
In any case, you are right about C-x C-c being easy to inadvertantly
t
Peter Dobratz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Andrew Hyatt writes:
> > For example, what's with the C-c C-v keybindings? This is only one key
> > off from the C-x C-c binding which exits emacs. Not good.
>
> I think the point of these keybindings is that they are easy to type.
> In any case,
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