Re: [jug-discussion] Early Bird Discount ends October 31st...SpringAmericas 2008 returns December 1-4th to Hollywood, FL (JUG Discount Available...)

2008-10-21 Thread Kit Plummer
Going along with what Chad said (and sorry for top posting, but I don't really understand that argument either) I'll take simple any day. Though I've seen the value of Spring in stuff like ServiceMix, I think Spring really shines in things like Grails. So, if I were going to build a webap

[jug-discussion] [ANN] VTD-XML extended edition released

2008-10-21 Thread jimmy Zhang
The Java version of extended VTD-XmL is released and available for download. This version supports 256 GB max file sizes and memory mapped capabilities. The updated documentation is also available for download. In short, you can basically do full XPath query on documents that are bigger than memor

Re: [jug-discussion] Early Bird Discount ends October 31st...SpringAmericas 2008 returns December 1-4th to Hollywood, FL (JUG Discount Available...)

2008-10-21 Thread Chad Woolley
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Kit Plummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The latest OSGi spin Spring is spinning is a little gross. Why do I need > to "buy" their 8x8 block when I can go down the street to Apache and get a > Felix 2x2 block? But, anyway... > Why use a DI "Framework" at all whe

Re: [jug-discussion] Early Bird Discount ends October 31st...SpringAmericas 2008 returns December 1-4th to Hollywood, FL (JUG Discount Available...)

2008-10-21 Thread Thomas Hicks
At 04:08 PM 10/21/2008, you wrote: Yeh, that was definitely chum for chums. :) Seriously though, my issues with Spring are more political/business than technical. Spring can do a lot for you - from a web-app or enterprisey-app angle. But, it comes with a lot of "fluff" too, which raises th

Re: [jug-discussion] Early Bird Discount ends October 31st...SpringAmericas 2008 returns December 1-4th to Hollywood, FL (JUG Discount Available...)

2008-10-21 Thread Liz_Ravenwood
Thanks for all of your opinions. It'll be good to see you on the 11th. What time and where? Respectfully, Liz, Data Base Administrator, Methods Engineering Kit Plummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/21/2008 04:08 PM Please respond to jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org To jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org

Re: [jug-discussion] Early Bird Discount ends October 31st...SpringAmericas 2008 returns December 1-4th to Hollywood, FL (JUG Discount Available...)

2008-10-21 Thread Kit Plummer
Yeh, that was definitely chum for chums. Seriously though, my issues with Spring are more political/business than technical. Spring can do a lot for you - from a web-app or enterprisey-app angle. But, it comes with a lot of "fluff" too, which raises the learning curve - fair warning. I'

[jug-discussion] Joey Lott on Adobe Flex, in Tucson

2008-10-21 Thread William H. Mitchell
Since there's some interest in Flex among our members I'm forwarding an announcement for a Tucson Adobe Group meeting -- the speaker is Joey Lott, co-author of one of my favorite Flex books, "Programming Flex 3". His topic is "How To Architect Flex Applications". Here's the announcement: F

Re: [jug-discussion] Early Bird Discount ends October 31st...SpringAmericas 2008 returns December 1-4th to Hollywood, FL (JUG Discount Available...)

2008-10-21 Thread Thomas Hicks
OoohKit puts on his flame-suite and throws a hand grenade into the room Don't listen to that Luddite, Liz. Personally, I think Spring is terrific and there are very few types of web applications I would build without it. As for unnecessarysure, most tools are unnecessary but I bet Ki

Re: [jug-discussion] Early Bird Discount ends October 31st...SpringAmericas 2008 returns December 1-4th to Hollywood, FL (JUG Discount Available...)

2008-10-21 Thread Kit Plummer
http://www.springframework.org Parented by: http://www.springsource.com It is a dependency injection framework that promotes configuration over convention and is bloated, commercially-inspired (by companies like mine), and overall unnecessary. But, was the hot thing a couple years ago an

Re: [jug-discussion] Early Bird Discount ends October 31st...SpringAmericas 2008 returns December 1-4th to Hollywood, FL (JUG Discount Available...)

2008-10-21 Thread TR
Spring is a framework for dependency injection. see http://www.springframework.org/ On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:45 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Okay. I give. I googled Spring, went to the conference site, wiki'd > SpringOne, and don't know. > > What is Spring? > > Respectfully, > Liz, Data

Re: [jug-discussion] Early Bird Discount ends October 31st...SpringAmericas 2008 returns December 1-4th to Hollywood, FL (JUG Discount Available...)

2008-10-21 Thread Liz_Ravenwood
Okay. I give. I googled Spring, went to the conference site, wiki'd SpringOne, and don't know. What is Spring? Respectfully, Liz, Data Base Administrator, Methods Engineering Jay Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/21/2008 07:22 AM Please respond to jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org To jug-di

[jug-discussion] Early Bird Discount ends October 31st...SpringAmericas 2008 returns December 1-4th to Hollywood, FL (JUG Discount Available...)

2008-10-21 Thread Jay Zimmerman
Join us in beautiful Hollywood, Florida for SpringAmericas 2008 coming December 1-4th. SpringAmericas 2008 is the conference for the global Spring community. This one-of-a-kind event is for application developers, solution architects, and project managers who develop business applications