Re: [Liquibase-user] Res: Keeping the order of execution on local databases

2009-04-20 Thread David C. Hicks
I would agree that testing the migration should be a part of the development process, but I think of it as a level of testing that comes after my software. First and foremost, the software has to work with the version of the database that it is designed to run against. I do understand that wi

Re: [Liquibase-user] Patch submitted for bug 2688450

2009-04-20 Thread Voxland, Nathan
My concern with the changeset-level preconditions and updateSql mode is that since the database isn't actually updated, most of the time the preconditions will fail for no valid reason. For example: In update mode, changeSet B will run, but in updateSql mode, the precondi

[Liquibase-user] Patch submitted for bug 2688450

2009-04-20 Thread Don Smith
Just wanted to let you know that I have submitted a patch for bug 2688450 (updateSQL ignores precondition & generate SQL even though PreCondition fails). I have also attached it to this message, since I could not attach a file in tracker and was forced to paste the patch into a comment. By al

[Liquibase-user] Res: Keeping the order of execution on local databases

2009-04-20 Thread Diego Moreira da Rosa
> Developer A should have merged from the SCM, then done a complete > re-test, including rebuilding the database. At least, that's how I see it. Yep, that is another solution I'd forgotten, but it is also one I was trying to avoid. In general, I would not recommend rebuilding the database bec

Re: [Liquibase-user] Keeping the order of execution on local databases

2009-04-20 Thread David C. Hicks
It looks to me like the problem in this scenario is NOT recreating a database from the ground up for testing. I constantly struggle with this problem with our QE department. They want to keep pulling their data forward as changes occur, instead of creating a script that will regenerate their

[Liquibase-user] Keeping the order of execution on local databases

2009-04-20 Thread Diego Moreira da Rosa
Hi all, here is an interesting case that happened during our Liquibase/changeSet development. I was already aware of this possibility, but this was the first time that it really happened in our environment. In short, the problem is that, when developers hold their changeSets locally for a few

[Liquibase-user] Res: Does anyone use Java 1.4?

2009-04-20 Thread Diego Moreira da Rosa
I don't care much about this, but I think that anyone who still needs Java 1.4 can download a previous version of Liquibase and use it, right? Diego - Mensagem original > De: Paul Keeble > Para: liquibase-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 20 de Abril de 2009 11:1

Re: [Liquibase-user] Does anyone use Java 1.4?

2009-04-20 Thread Paul Keeble
If only it was that easy! 1.4 is the backbone of huge numbers of application servers still in active use out there, because JavaEE only recently got updated. These are also the environments where a tool like liquibase comes in most useful. I'd love to see the death of Java 1.4 as much as every

Re: [Liquibase-user] Does anyone use Java 1.4?

2009-04-20 Thread Robert Fischer
Java 1.4 has been end-of-lifed: "The EOL transition period began Dec, 11 2006 and will complete October 30th, 2008" http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/ Let's not IE6 this -- kill it, kill it now, kill it dead, and no more support. ~~ Robert. Christian Maslen wrote: > > > Voxland, Nathan wrote: