[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread William Samson
I think one problem will be getting a chanterelle that won't break with a 63cm scale and tuned to g at a440. Gut probably wouldn't last very long, but synthetics would be OK. I support the advice you've been given about making sure the tension isn't too much. If I remember correct

[LUTE] Re: Address book hijacked

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel Winheld
Thanks for clearing that up. I assume they now know how to finger Dowland's "Lachrimae" the way I do. Hope you're at least getting your own emails. Dan On Oct 20, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Edward Mast wrote: > Hello all, > It appears that a Canadian drug company has hijacked the addresses in my > comp

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Leonard Williams
Try Arto Wikla's calculator: it allows calculations with a variety of string materials, as well as tensions, mensurs and pitches. http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/NewScalc/ Leonard On 10/20/11 3:27 PM, "Gert de Vries" wrote: > Dear all, > > I have a little problem, my lute maker who alwa

[LUTE] Re: Off topic: Woods so Wild

2011-10-20 Thread Edward Mast
Thanks - Lovely ! Ned On Oct 20, 2011, at 1:35 PM, wikla wrote: > > Sorry for off topic! > Just some photos of wild woods in Finland today: > https://picasaweb.google.com/114782807109183620580/WoodsSoWildOct202011 > > Best, > > Arto > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel Winheld
New nylgut stretches less. Go no thicker than gut. On Oct 20, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Ken Brodkey wrote: > I find that nylgut stretches and thins out, so it helps to go with a little > bit bigger string than the equivalent gut string to get a similar tension. > I'm not sure about the new nylgut, tho

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Ken Brodkey
I find that nylgut stretches and thins out, so it helps to go with a little bit bigger string than the equivalent gut string to get a similar tension. I'm not sure about the new nylgut, though. It's supposed to stretch less. Ken On 10/20/2011 1:25 PM, Daniel Winheld wrote: At 63 cm. with tho

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel Winheld
At 63 cm. with those string sizes I'd say you are already a bit on the high side, tension wise. I would never take 63 cm. up to 440 with those strings without clearing the safety issue with the builder. You don't want the bridge going on vacation while your builder is on vacation. I like Dan Lar

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Ken Brodkey
Unfortunately, nlygut isn't made in all sizes. For the .51 listed below use .52 For .77 use .79 for the .98 type D use 100 For .69 nylgut 6th course octave use .70 I, personally would use a 132 type D for the 6th course fundamental, but 128 is available. Ken On 10/20/2011 12:49 PM, Gernot Hil

[LUTE] Re: string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Gernot Hilger
On 20.10.2011, at 21:27, Gert de Vries wrote: Chanterelle I have d'd' is 0,54 aa is 0,68 ff is 0,82 cc is 104 D G-g is 136 D - 0,73 g' probably 0.42 d' 0.51 a 0.64 f 0.77 c 0.98 Gg 1.28/0.69 -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt informieren:

[LUTE] string tension

2011-10-20 Thread Gert de Vries
Dear all, I have a little problem, my lute maker who always helps me with my strings is far away till december. My lute is tuned in 415, and I need to go to 440, and I am really bad in calculating, so maybe there is someone who is able to do that without too much effort? I would be really happy.

[LUTE] Re: Off topic: Woods so Wild

2011-10-20 Thread Garry Warber
Arto, So very like the woods here in Michigan! Except I think your's aren't so crowded... Garry -Original Message- From: wikla Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Off topic: Woods so Wild Sorry for off topic! Just some photos of wild w

[LUTE] Re: Off topic: Woods so Wild

2011-10-20 Thread Edward Martin
Thanks, Arto. it looks exactly like where I reside, in northern Minnesota. ed At 12:35 PM 10/20/2011, wikla wrote: >Sorry for off topic! >Just some photos of wild woods in Finland today: > https://picasaweb.google.com/114782807109183620580/WoodsSoWildOct202011 > >Best, > >Arto > > > >To get o

[LUTE] Off topic: Woods so Wild

2011-10-20 Thread wikla
Sorry for off topic! Just some photos of wild woods in Finland today: https://picasaweb.google.com/114782807109183620580/WoodsSoWildOct202011 Best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Any old Loaded guts out there?

2011-10-20 Thread Edward Martin
Have you tried the Antiques Roadshow? ed At 12:03 PM 10/20/2011, Daniel Winheld wrote: >Does anyone out there have any old first generation Mimmo Peruffo >loaded gut bass strings they could sell? I dug out a few from my own >ancient gut pile that passes for my string repository and find them >

[LUTE] Any old Loaded guts out there?

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel Winheld
Does anyone out there have any old first generation Mimmo Peruffo loaded gut bass strings they could sell? I dug out a few from my own ancient gut pile that passes for my string repository and find them to be superb for the Baroque lute bass fundamentals- but I have a few gaps to fill. Would be

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel Winheld
Well I just noticed (after the fact) that right there in your initial post you designate the strings. Kind what I thought I heard, including the nylgut treble. Just these past two weeks I have strung my own Baroque lute (Old Robert Lundberg "Hoffthing") in NewNylGut on the first five courses. Mi

[LUTE] Re: Lute matters

2011-10-20 Thread Edward Mast
Egad - another Dowland piece, just when I've decided to read through all the pieces in D. Poulton's collected works of Dowland. But, one can never have too much Dowland! Thank you, Ron. On a related note, I'm grateful to youtube and the accomplished players who post there. Looking at Dowlan

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-20 Thread Christopher Wilke
Rob, Great playing. Very beautiful and sensitive. But... --- On Thu, 10/20/11, Rob MacKillop wrote: > > Anything that takes the lute further away from the > classical guitar is, in my opinion, a good thing. Do we really need to be contrarian? Just because modern classical guitarists

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-20 Thread Stephan Olbertz
I always wondered if "Prelude pour la Luth o Cembal" could simply mean that he composed a Prelude for the lute, instead of a "pars pro toto" meaning. Later he added two other movements for his (lute-)harpsichord. The first movement is clearly the best working piece. Concerning BWV 995, ther

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-20 Thread Rob MacKillop
Well, we have the option that Weiss et al never had. Pluses and minuses on both sides. In the classical guitar world, when Segovia changed from gut to nylon, most people went with him, but not everyone, i.e. Pujol and his school. The arguments will remain until people no longer make gut strings,

[LUTE] Re: More on the lute-harpsichord (was Re: BWV 998

2011-10-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
In had in mind Adlung's (Musica mechanica organoedi) specific comment in which he recalls: " having seen and heard a 'Lautenclavicymbel' in Leipzig in about 1740, designed by Mr. Johann Sebastian Bach and made by Mr. Zacharias Hildebrand, which was smaller in size than a normal ha

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-20 Thread William Samson
>I will doubtless experiment with strings over the coming year. I love the creaky-ness of the gut strings, but I am having intonation problems which can be really annoying. Damian Dlugolecki sent me some gut >basses to try out, and I am interested in Dan's gimped strings too. But it

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-20 Thread dc
Thanks to all for the comments! Much appreciated. Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Robert de Visee lute tombeau de DuBut

2011-10-20 Thread Rob MacKillop
Ah strings...D'Addario Phosphor Bronze, 12s. Oh, you mean on the lute? Well, I'm not 100 per cent sure, as Malcolm's computer died just as he was about to send me the string list. But all the trebles and bass octaves are gut. I am a fan of old Kurschner basses, but will have to wait a year or so