but that claims it's already installed, yet the error occurs. what i
> found you want to install is the package "python-dev".
>
python-dev should only be necessary if you are building Mailman from
source. If you are installing from PPA/apt/rpm/dpkg/etc you should only
need pyt
on ubuntu's keyserver.
Can you provide some more details on this, please. Was this possibly
due to you not being able to follow the default PPA instructions of
using "add-apt-repository"?
I just update the Mailman PPA to include this text above the area that
details how to add a PPA t
> > https://launchpad.net/~mailman-administrivia/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
> >
> > Installed with an IO error over a lock file purported to be from one of my
> > lists but otherwise started ok. But sending an email produced an error
> > complaining:
> >
>
On 6/5/19 3:59 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
I wonder if this is *mailman* or your MTA that is complaining...
It might also be a webserver thing trying to react to the pending
moderators request / hold screen (page).
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I'm guessing that this is a Mailman and / or MTA configuration issue.
The fact that the message makes it into Mailman tells me that the MTA
can handle the attachment. I wonder if simply raising the Maximum
length (max_message_size) might allo
get the job done.
i've looked at ifttt and zapier but wasn't sure. thanks.
I'm not familiar with them. Sorry.
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I have seen the other replies in this thread, so I'm not adding much here.
Trying to recognize this in Mailman would be a major kludge and not
worth the effort.
I would argue against hacking Mailman to recognize this as
d process the message/delivery-status or not. I also question
what Mailman would do with a temporary failure, 4.7.0.
It looks like Yahoo TempFailed the message because they don't like
SendGrid for one reason or another.
I'm also somewhat surprised that SendGrid is returning the enti
>
> This is what we were unable to solve in the original thread starting at
> <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2019-March/084241.html>
> for 10 posts and then continuing at
> <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2019-March/084266.html>
> for
Okay. That worked. Now I have upgraded Mailman from an early 2x to 2.1.29.
the script alias is not working consistently now across all lists. Some web
page admin links are broken requiring me to manually insert the /cgi-bin/
into the web browser to bring up admin pages. Other links work w.o. the
I'm now getting an error when I start Mailman:
root@primeo:~# /etc/init.d/mailman start
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 106, in
from Mailman import mm_cfg
File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py", line 54
Hello,
I wanted to free some server disc space, therefore I wanted to delete my
mailman archives. Due to a mistake, I accidently deleted the whole /private and
/public directorys. Now, when I want to access my lists through the online
admin backend, I get an error.
Is there any way to rebuild
On 4/27/19 10:56 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 4/27/19 5:25 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote:
And if you post one of those tracebacks here, we'd be happy to help
No need to, the fix was easy. I had changed some permissions and
ownership of the mailman cgi files while trying to f
Progress! Well, I guess, at least a differnet error. Changed some
Apache configs regarding cgi and now when I go to
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo
I get
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Please inform the webmaster for this site of this pr
On 4/24/19 4:27 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
Yes, selinux.
[root@autox teamnet]# getenforce
Disabled
Selinux should not be a factor here.
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On 4/24/19 3:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
I'm still interested in 'ls -l'
[root@autox cgi-bin]# ls -l
total 352
-rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 admin
-rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 admindb
-rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 confir
cgi-bin]# ^web^www
sudo -u www-data ./listinfo
Content-type: text/html
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Please inform the webmaster for this site of this
problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been
explicitly inhi
:
[Wed Apr 24 13:52:47.955661 2019] [cgid:error] [pid 16974:tid
140524686079744] (13)Permission denied: [client 50.198.190.18:45928]
AH01257: unable to connect to cgi daemon after multiple tries:
/local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/listinfo, referer: http://autox.team.net/
So at least I can focus on
sions error on the wrappers in /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/,
but do check Apache's error.log which should have more information.
Yes, I have run check_perms, no problems there. All the other web pages
at autox.team.net seem to work just fine, it is only the mailman pages
that gi
On 4/23/19 5:02 AM, Kiffin Gish wrote:
Is it possible to configure mailman so that it is not possible for users
to change their email address, e.g. disabling the option and including
the service desk contact information instead?
What will prevent users from unsubscribing with the old address
everything working on the new server.
Got the new server on line, up and running, the email lists are doing
just fine. But for some reason there are problems with the web pages,
like http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo will not work. And I don't
know why. Here's the relevant
ere's a common
> enough reason for doing this, we (the committers) should think about
> adding such features to Mailman 3 (Mailman 2 is up to Mark, but I
> think he really really wants that in security mods only mode). But I
> don't see the point, since subscribers (moderated o
.@u.tsukuba.ac.jp]
>
> > Again, I'm not saying these are bad ideas, just that I want more
> > information to decide if they are useful enough to add to Mailman 3.
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> We had a customer ask for their lists to have this option. Their lists
> are used
n a wrong package on the deploy
host, and took a while to figure out and find a workaround.
I mostly managed to suppress the memories of trying to upgrade
openstack from nova to havana (or whatever they were called).
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On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 09:25 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> The path forward is to increase the community of MM 3 users which will
> result in more people contributing to the project and faster progress.
What Mailman things need assistance in MM3? I've avoided jumping in because
probably deals with strings a lot, and strings is exactly what they
felt they needed to do differently in python 3... I'm sure there's other
monsters there too.
I suspect the practical answer may be as simple as replacing
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman with
"""
cat - | do
On 4/10/19 12:49 PM, Sean McBride wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 12:38:34 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users said:
>
>> How much support for python 2 have you been getting until now, and why
>> do you believe you will need it in the future?
>
> Fixes to security vulner
On 4/10/19 10:36 AM, Matthew Goebel wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Now that all support for Python 2 is supposed to go away in 2020 are
> people going to move off of mailman 2?
How much support for python 2 have you been getting until now, and why
do you believe you will need it in the future?
On 4/5/19 11:59 AM, Valentin Schwarze via Mailman-Users wrote:
Are there any settings that we as administrators of the list could
change to end that behavior? For example, is it possible in any way,
that Mailman only accepts emails that passed a SPF check? Or any other
option to prevent email
Hello,
I am the administrator of some mailman lists of the student self-administration
of our university. We happend to have some spam issues on our mailman lists.
These spammers were able to send emails on our lists through mail spoofing
(only faking the From: field in the header is
On 3/26/19 4:12 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> Sure, FetchMail can pull email from the ISP and inject it into the local
> server. But what advantage does that gain you? Is said advantage worth
> the complexity?
Apparently lennartwware-infested linux distros no longer re
plicate messages where multiple servers up
stream are the source of duplication.
Are you implying that local MTA alters this behavior? Or that it
provides additional tracing / diagnostic information?
I'm not aware of Mailman having any Message-ID deduplication
functionality. Nor have
On 3/26/19 12:36 AM, Jim Ziobro wrote:
why not setup standard Mailman under your favorite mail system and let
FetchMail do what it does best?
The unneeded complexity of a local mail system.
FetchMail & SMTP Auth would work against an ISP's email server over
dynamic / dial up co
On 3/24/19 11:50 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
This should work in Mailman 2, but won't in Mailman 3 (which expects
incoming posts via LMTP).
Noted. I think it would be possible to interject a shim between
fetchmail that would extract what's necessary to speak LMTP to Mailman.
I
Okay here's the output from 'postconf -n'
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
append_dot_mydomain = no
biff = no
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
config_directory = /etc/postfix
content_filter = smtp-amavis:[1
On 3/21/19 4:04 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
I honestly don't remember the details but if I was passing mail to
local MTA configured as my home MX, I don't see why mailman wouldn't
work behind that.
I think that it should.
I'm talking about bypassing the lo
On 3/21/19 3:57 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> Fetchmail itself is plenty common. I had no idea that it was as common
> with Mailman. 209 hits on the link that Mark shared.
I honestly don't remember the details but if I was passing mail to local
MTA configured as my
On 3/21/19 2:05 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
IST vaguely R firing up fetchmail from a dip script to inject messages
from my school mailbox into my local qmail... Plenty typical at the time.
Fetchmail itself is plenty common. I had no idea that it was as common
with Mailman
On 3/21/19 1:56 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 3/21/19 11:29 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
>>
>> I see no technical reason why Mailman couldn't function via something
>> like fetchmail from a POP3 mailbox and SMTP Authentication to send.
...
>> It would be
On 3/21/19 11:58 AM, Adam Goldberg wrote:
There are ways around this.
I see no technical reason why Mailman couldn't function via something
like fetchmail from a POP3 mailbox and SMTP Authentication to send.
Fetchmail would pull the messages from an external 3rd party email
server,
On 3/21/19 12:40 AM, 황병희 wrote:
in this case i can run mailman with other port (example 625)? again
question, Mailman can act with 625 or 1625 or 2625, ...?
No. Not directly.
Mailman is not a mail server. You must have a mail server (daemon) sit
in front of Mailman.
You can make that
mail.domainname.tld [private/dovecot-lmtp] said: 550
5.1.1 User doesn't exist:
s...@hostname.domainname.tld (in reply to RCPT TO command))
Mar 19 18:21:43 zarathustra postfix/lmtp[18151]: 925B210193B:
to=<|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mail...@hostname.domainname.tld >,
relay=mail.domainname.t
Using mailman 2.1.9 on ubuntu 14.04 using mysql for aliases and mail
accounts. Iy was working fine for a long time then something went awry. Now
I've got an iterative loop and multiple email lists are generating
'Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender' messages. Those message then hav
On 3/18/2019 4:51 AM, Davide Marchi wrote:
1) How is it possible from Mailman monitor the delivery errors? Only
sysadmin mail server from the logs?
This is what VERP deliveries are for. The FROM address is tagged so that
bounces can be clearly identified.
https://wiki.list.org/DOC/So%20what
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aller program and a modem back when, now you can get a
GSM modem and send actual sms'es.
Off the top of my head you'd put this behind a script-mailbox and
subscribe it to your list and Robert's your parent's sibling.
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On 02/27/2019 02:22 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
Hi,
Hi Dave,
I've been using mailman to send routine announcements for a long time
and more and more what people want is a text message. I've been able
to discover gateways for individual carriers so that I can send to
@..com and the
rom by visiting my interactive donation
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efaults.py, but it may get overwritten when you upgrade.
mm_cfg.py never gets overwritten.
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/customizing.html
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handled.
Is there some config we need to change in mailman to secure it
properly?
What is the DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN setting in mm_cfg.py?
I've got mine set to ...
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
... so all URL's go to https.
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> Server: Ubuntu 18.01
>
> I have followed these:
> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node42.html
>
> % update-rc.d mailman defaults
>
> But still, mailman doesn't start on reboot.
>
> Not
dear mailman people,
I have a public list and try to trim the inevitable spam with
rules that look reasonable but I am not completely sure they
won't backfire for legit mails
(e.g. consider sender names as fictitious when having
20+ consecutive letters)
I was thinking of receiving a co
tches.
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On 2/1/19 6:49 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
Yes, Mailman has a feature call topics, but that is very different
then what the OP is asking for.
Agreed. (I thought I covered that in my last email. Maybe I wasn't clear.)
The Mailman 'Topic' operation basically provides the abili
On 02/01/2019 01:14 AM, R. Diez via Mailman-Users wrote:
Of course there is the concept of 'Topic' in a mailing list. Mailman,
the web interface, or whatever, does know how to group topics together.
That is an obvious feature, because people tend to work/participate in
threads.
...]
You are being a bit over dramatic indeed. I don't pretend that everyone else should change their ways. And I do look into the archives all
the time. That is what I am trying to optimise away. I just wish Mailman (or whatever associated component) would help here, like other
communication pl
Hello R. Diez. On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 09:30:54 +0100, you wrote:
> Other systems can do it. I understand that you do not want to
> implement it yourself in Mailman, but why oppose the idea?
Then use these "other systems", please.
Or try to implement the solution suggested by tlha
, of course
you expect to receive e-mails about those. That is what mailing lists are about. That should stand in court.
Mailman has a long page with settings like digest mode, stop delivery (holiday mode), and many, many more. Other communication platforms
like Google Group allow you to manage
er.
It is unrealistic to expect general users to subscribe to every mailing list and read many messages before they ask the one important
question for them today. It is unrealistic to hope that this will help grow a community.
I am not asking for people to "go out of their way to answer in a s
. Heck, this
mailing list is called "users", and not "developers" or "mailman clan only".
I asked about a way around a perceived limitation, and in the face of the answer, I contributed with reasoning and examples (a couple of links) about
a missing feature and why i
ther messages which do not interest me.
>
> Other forum software has a nice feature for this scenario: If I post
> to a subject, I am automatically subscribed to that subject. I then
> get an e-mail for any new posts with the same subject.
>
> The "topic" feature in Mai
list normally.
> [...]
This is a serious shortcoming in Mailman. I am surprised that such a basic
human communication issue has not been properly addressed.
See here what kind of effect that can have. From the message below, a long
discussion follows on this subject:
https://lists.ubu
Hello R. Diez via Mailman-Users. On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:11:48 +0100, you wrote:
> I have the following recurring problem with mailing lists all over
> the Internet: people do reply to my posts, by they do not address or
> copy me in their replies. They send their e-mails only to th
ribed to that subject. I then get
an e-mail for any new posts with the same subject.
The "topic" feature in Mailman is different. Very few people use it. I need
something based on the e-mail subject.
Is there any way to achieve that with Mailman?
Thanks in a
On 1/29/2019 12:13 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Also, Adding a global setting for dmarc_moderation_addresses on top of
the per-list setting is not difficult either. See
<https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/revision/1574>
for how this was done for a global ban_list.
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Hello David Gibbs via Mailman-Users. On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:54:21 -0600, you
wrote:
> I've got a number of subscribers who's email admins have set a policy
> such that, if a message is sent to them with their email address as
> the 'from' address, the message is r
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On 1/14/2019 12:13 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 1/14/19 8:40 AM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote:
Anyone know if it's possible to configure MM 2.1 to allow posting
with an email address that has a modifier?
You can't configure Mailman to just do it without making code
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On Wed, 09 Jan 2019 16:15:26 +0100
Konrad Wawryn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to create newsletter mailing list with ~3,2mln abonents.
>
> The question is, can Mailman handle it ? Will it be possible to
> import via command line such a big amount of users ?
Ours choked on
On 1/7/19 2:13 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> I think Sendmail (and other MTAs that I've tested) default to
> user@host.domain too. But that's just a default that's easy to change.
LOL. Not on IRIX it wasn't.
> Or are you saying that you used
>
On 01/07/2019 09:59 AM, Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
We used to run irix whose sendmail sent every message from host.domain
and every A record had to have an adjacent MX record for e-mail to even
work. That way lies madness.
Hum.
I think Sendmail (and other MTAs that I've t
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 15:47:01 -0700
Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> On 1/4/19 3:40 AM, Jim Ziobro wrote:
> > Setting up mailing lists in a separate domain has a nice
> > administrative appeal.
We used to run irix whose sendmail sent every message from ho
ost "lists" and
191 have a host "list..." in their DNS. I surveyed a few and ran
across: Mailman, Lyris, Sympa, Listserv, Majordomo, and Google groups.
Many universities outsource their Email to Outlook which has it own
Group capability.
Interesting.
I can hook up any mail
Folks:
This isn't specific to Mailman ... but is related to mailing list servers in
general.
I've had my mailing lists on an in-house server for a long time (more than 15
years). I'm currently able to deliver mail to Yahoo without any problems.
I've been trying to m
Folks:
I'm curious as to how people are setting 'dmarc_none_moderation_action'... which
controls how Mailman handles domains with a dmarc policy action of none (like
gmail.com).
Is there a compelling reason to set it to Yes so that messages from such domains
are munged or wr
stfix. If I were doing this, I'd
be tempted to try alpine w/ mailman from source.
(We run centos 6 on servers and so far I don't see any upgrade path for
them that involves either readhat- or debian-based distributions. In
fact, *BSD looks like a better option than any of them at the
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Hello Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users. On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:45:31 -0600, you
wrote:
> So this was a user problem, mailman works exactly as advertised:
> - user has his e-mail forwarded to gmail,
> - gmail put it in "all mail",
> - not seeing it in "inbox"
So this was a user problem, mailman works exactly as advertised:
- user has his e-mail forwarded to gmail,
- gmail put it in "all mail",
- not seeing it in "inbox", the user went and checked the archives,
- where the attachments were scrubbed.
Now that we found the actual e-ma
pdfs, or he is not
receiving his own messages or something...
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Am 07.12.18 um 14:06 schrieb Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users:
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> I have a Mailman 2.1.27 installation on cPanel 76.0.7.
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> Today a subscriber of a list sent an empty email trying to unsubscribe. He
> addressed the message to the list address , with the
> subject
Hi all
I have a Mailman 2.1.27 installation on cPanel 76.0.7.
Today a subscriber of a list sent an empty email trying to unsubscribe. He
addressed the message to the list address , with the
subject "unsubscribe", and else nothing. But instead of his unsubsciption being
processe
On 12/06/2018 11:24 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
> As a native italian speaker (who however virtually always uses the
> English interface in the *GUI* of mailman and any other tool) I would
> regard as highly inconvenient any localization of *service address
> suffixes*).
Oh, I du
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 10:28:53 +0900
"Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote:
> Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users writes:
> > So basically unix user/group access model is wrong because sendmail
> > is full of bugs?
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> Please, Dmitri. All large software applications are full
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 10:30:53 -0500
Jim Ziobro wrote:
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> Is the directory “/etc/mailman” group-writable only to support the
> creation of an aliases file?I would feel more confident if /etc/mailman
> was only writable by root.
So basically unix user/group access model is wron
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