Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-11-12 08:40, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: You would have to find a way to gain control of the systems, as they’re already screwing people over on resales where they disable options when the car changes owners. That being the case, you’re pretty much at Elon’s mercy unless you find

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
That could work in theory but refueling infrastructure is too sparse in most areas, which is also one of the problems that EVs have. On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, at 15:27, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > How about natural gas instead? > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 2:46 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Locomotives are all electric. Hydrogen recombines back into water while releasing electricity very nicely. The problem is that generating hydrogen isn't particularly efficient. If the problem of producing hydrogen could be solved it'd be handier than batteries although even more dangerous. Curt

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
How about natural gas instead? On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 2:46 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I can see long haul trucks going hydrogen fuel cell for more range. > > I think long haul trucks will stay with diesel for the forseeable future. > No electric technology is

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
> I can see long haul trucks going hydrogen fuel cell for more range. I think long haul trucks will stay with diesel for the forseeable future. No electric technology is close to feasible for pulling 80,000 lbs for 10+ hours at a stretch. Local deliveries may be another story. Electric may have

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I think the battery packs will limit the usability of old EVs. They are a LOT more complex and expensive than you'd think. This guy talks about the battery and charging it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDfV47il5mg He swapped a Tesla powertrain and running gear into a 1950 Jag sedan. There w

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Maybe my Hertz Tesla has some sort of sport suspension on it. But why would Hertz do that? It just seems to be very stiffly sprung with limited suspension travel. I have never been in a car that hobby horses over uneven pavement like this thing. Frost heaves are what did Pobst in at Pikes Peak. Jo

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I drove a Model S a few years ago, I don't remember it handling poorly but it's the top model car... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 10:08 AM, Kevin Kraly wrote: Mercedes content: Our 2019 Sprinter had no tactile buttons or knobs for radio presets either. How

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Mercedes content: Our 2019 Sprinter had no tactile buttons or knobs for radio presets either. However, it did have the capability of voice activation so I was able to say “Play 98.7 FM,” and it would immediately obey my command. I could also turn on the seat heater, check fuel economy instantane

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
My new pickup has no tactile buttons for radio presets which is irritating. At least it has knobs for HVAC... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 9:03 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: If I'm understanding Karl correctly, my hate for the touchscreen crap has mult

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yes that’s the key. Need to find some hackers who could reverse engineer the control systems and escape the Elon gulag Sent from my iPad > On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:41 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > You would have to find a way to gain control of the systems, as they’re > already

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
You would have to find a way to gain control of the systems, as they’re already screwing people over on resales where they disable options when the car changes owners. That being the case, you’re pretty much at Elon’s mercy unless you find a way to gain control. That or be able to disable updat

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I wonder if these things will ever get to beater status where you could buy them cheepcheep and just hoon the hell out of them, or if they will just suffer massive multiple system failures to where they couldn’t even be rat rodded. I suppose some cult dudes will figure out how to run them with r

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-11-12 07:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Yes, thanks, Karl! This is good to know, never having even sat in a Tesla. Makes me want one even less. Although I would like to experience the acceleration. Yeah. A 3 Performance or any late model S would feel like the street/strip ca

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-11-11 22:41, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Man the stereo is insane though. Almost makes up for the fact that it handles like a RedBull soap box derby racer. The stereo is good to know. The ride quality is good to know. I knew the mass was high and assumed it would cause handling

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-12 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Yes, thanks, Karl! This is good to know, never having even sat in a Tesla. Makes me want one even less. Although I would like to experience the acceleration. -D > On Nov 11, 2022, at 9:24 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Great review > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Nov

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-11 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Great review --FT Sent from iFōn > On Nov 11, 2022, at 10:42 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Man the stereo is insane though. Almost makes up for the fact that it > handles like a RedBull soap box derby racer. > > View out the front is beautiful. > > Climate is controlled very

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-11 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Man the stereo is insane though. Almost makes up for the fact that it handles like a RedBull soap box derby racer. View out the front is beautiful. Climate is controlled very well. Definitely a computer with wheels and a motor. It shows little diagrams of everything you are driving by, for no a

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-11 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
If I'm understanding Karl correctly, my hate for the touchscreen crap has multiplied tenfold. Having to take my eyes off the road and focus on a tactile free screen to do anything is a safety hazard. What pisses me off to no end is when my Chevy puts up a long paragraph of verbiage on the screen

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-11 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I suspect that when Mercedes ups their EV game, Tesla will be relegated to the minor league of auto makers. It was basically a tax farm anyway. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

[MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.

2022-11-11 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
See below for day 2 report Somehow it went only to Andrew. For Day 3 I will only add that the fore and aft hobby horsing is super annoying and I dont know what their chassis dynamics people are smoking. Still have not charged it. No key or off switch still annoying. I leave my kid inside and if