Re: Mersenne: Head's algorithm for multiplying mod n

1999-07-08 Thread Lucas Wiman
Pierre Abbat writes: >>> In the book _Primes and Programming_ Head's method of multiplying >>> two numbers mod n is mentioned. Is this actually more efficient >>> than simply multiplying the two numbers and taking the modulus? >> >> Look at it this way. Head's method is essentially binary long >>

Re: Mersenne: Head's algorithm for multiplying mod n

1999-07-08 Thread Pierre Abbat
> Limbs? It is good to know that the world has many different literal meanings > in many languages for "bits" - variety is good for us all. (The French word > for "buffer" is also, I seem to remember, rather amusing). "Limb" is the term used in gmp for a digit in a large base (such as 2147483648)

Re: Mersenne: Head's algorithm for multiplying mod n

1999-07-08 Thread Chris Nash
Hi folks > > > In the book _Primes and Programming_ Head's method of multiplying > > > two numbers mod n is mentioned. Is this actually more effiecient > > > than simply multiplying the two numbers and taking the modulus? > > Look at it this way. Head's method is essentially binary long > > mult

Re: Mersenne: Head's algorithm for multiplying mod n

1999-07-08 Thread Jud McCranie
At 08:11 PM 7/8/99 -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: >That is going to be a *lot* slower than FFT convolution, for numbers the size >of the Mersenne numbers we're testing! Head's algorithm is for getting x*y mod n when 0<=x,yM, where M is the largest integer you can store in a format native to the com

Re: Mersenne: Head's algorithm for multiplying mod n

1999-07-08 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Thu, 08 Jul 1999, Brian J. Beesley wrote: > On 8 Jul 99, at 6:19, Lucas Wiman wrote: > > > In the book _Primes and Programming_ Head's method of multiplying > > two numbers mod n is mentioned. Is this actually more effiecient > > than simply multiplying the two numbers and taking the modulus?

Re: Mersenne: Mersenne M38

1999-07-08 Thread Herb Savage
>Actually, now that the exponent for M38 is known, I can say >that I had narrowed it down to 5 candidates (7 before the >Oregonian article). They were: >5,750,881 6,382,513 6,836,327 6,972,593 >7,143,163 7,213,391 7,310,981 George's original message said it was in th

Re: Mersenne: M38 = M6972593

1999-07-08 Thread Herb Savage
At 08:25 AM 7/8/99 -0700, Eric Hahn wrote: >Fixing this one 'leak' won't do the job, if you know how >and where to look... It would have stopped me. >Besides, *some people* know how to keep quiet about certain >things. You didn't see this person going around announcing >it to the world immediat

Re: Mersenne: Infinitude of Sophie Germains]

1999-07-08 Thread Rudy Ruiz
To: Jud McCranie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks.. I have read some of the mail that followed the ones I quoted and seen that you corrected that. Sincerely speaking I would have preferred you to be right and me to be wrong. I believe that "proofs are neat things"(tm) and would have jumped to th

Re: Mersenne: Infinitude of Sophie-Germains]

1999-07-08 Thread Jud McCranie
At 11:52 AM 7/8/99 -0700, Rudy Ruiz wrote: >I am not aware that anyone has yet proven the infinitude of Sophie >Germain Primes. [Granted that, in itself, does not mean anything ;) I was wrong. As far as I know, it hasn't been proven either (but it is almost certainly true). I had seen a conj

RE: Mersenne: Publicity from the 38th

1999-07-08 Thread Rick Pali
From: Lucas Wiman > >However, I agree with your sentiment, except - _what_ "victory"? > > It might be interpreted as a deception, I suppose... > "victory" would of course be finding another prime... To me [read: disclaimer], 'victory' implies a successful end. Perhaps 'success' would get the ide

Re: Mersenne: Publicity from the 38th

1999-07-08 Thread Lucas Wiman
>Actually I think mentioning the prize money might constitute >deception, since the next prize isn't in reach, yet. However, I agree >with your sentiment, except - _what_ "victory"? It might be interpreted as a deception, I suppose... "victory" would of course be finding another prime... -Lucas

Re: Mersenne: Head's algorithm for multiplying mod n

1999-07-08 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On 8 Jul 99, at 6:19, Lucas Wiman wrote: > In the book _Primes and Programming_ Head's method of multiplying > two numbers mod n is mentioned. Is this actually more effiecient > than simply multiplying the two numbers and taking the modulus? Look at it this way. Head's method is essentially bin

Mersenne: Infinitude of Sophie-Germains]

1999-07-08 Thread Rudy Ruiz
Hello List: I might be jumping the gun in here (as I have not read yet all the Mersenne Digest #574. ) However. These are called Sophie Germain primes, and it has been proven that there are an infinite number of them, Source:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> AND I'm not sure whether or not it has bee

Re: Mersenne: Wow...

1999-07-08 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On 8 Jul 99, at 9:51, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > >HTTP Error 403 > > > >403.9 Access Forbidden: Too many users are connected > > Sounds like M38 gave www.mersenne.org some extra traffic? > This problem has been around for a few days. The other explanation is that the server has lost some TC

Re: Mersenne: Lehmer question

1999-07-08 Thread Bill Daly
Peter-Lawrence.Montgomery wrote: >Problem A3 in Richard Guy's `Unsolved Problems in Number Theory' >includes this question, by D.H. Lehmer: > >Let Mp = 2^p - 1 be a Mersenne prime, where p > 2. >Denote S[1] = 4 and S[k+1] = S[k]^2 - 2 for k >= 1. >Then S[p-2] == +- 2^

Re: Mersenne: M38 = M6972593

1999-07-08 Thread Eric Hahn
>NOW it does, after the official announcement Remember >when Roland found M37? Someone found a 0x000 >residue in the report and beat George to the punch, so Scott >modified the reports so that they would NOT post a zero >residue automatically. So THIS time, when word came t

Re: Mersenne: Head's algorithm for multiplying mod n

1999-07-08 Thread Jud McCranie
At 06:19 AM 7/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >All, >In the book _Primes and Programming_ Head's method of multiplying >two numbers mod n is mentioned. Is this actually more effiecient >than simply multiplying the two numbers and taking the modulus? > Yes, because it keeps the numbers smaller. It was ori

Mersenne: Status question

1999-07-08 Thread Grieken, Paul van
If you run prime there is under test and status a number that gives the change to find a prime. On which base is this number calculated? bye Paul van Grieken Alcatel Telecom Nederland afd: T-TAC NE Kamer:4121 Postbus 3292 2280GG rijswijk Nederland Phone: + 31 70 307 9353 Fax: + 31 70 307 9

Re: Mersenne: Head's algorithm for multiplying mod n

1999-07-08 Thread Alan Powell
At 06:19 AM 7/8/99 -0400, Lucas Wiman wrote: >In the book _Primes and Programming_ Head's method of multiplying >two numbers mod n is mentioned. Is this actually more effiecient >than simply multiplying the two numbers and taking the modulus? No it is actually much less efficient, but you are mi

Mersenne: Publicity from the 38th

1999-07-08 Thread Lucas Wiman
all, I think that we should put the publicity from the 38th mersenne prime to good use. If we all write letters to the local paper, then we can probably gain a very large number of people. Stick encouragements to join on your website, in you .sig files, anywhere you can think of. Be sure to me

Re: Mersenne: Publicity from the 38th

1999-07-08 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
At 06:59 08.07.99 -0400, Lucas Wiman wrote: >I think that we should put the publicity from the 38th mersenne prime >to good use. If we all write letters to the local paper, then we can >probably gain a very large number of people. Stick encouragements >to join on your website, in you .sig files

Mersenne: Head's algorithm for multiplying mod n

1999-07-08 Thread Lucas Wiman
All, In the book _Primes and Programming_ Head's method of multiplying two numbers mod n is mentioned. Is this actually more effiecient than simply multiplying the two numbers and taking the modulus? If so, is it implemented in the various mersenne factoring programs in use? Thankyou, Lucas Wim

Mersenne: Wow...

1999-07-08 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
>HTTP Error 403 > >403.9 Access Forbidden: Too many users are connected > >This error can be caused if the Web server is busy and cannot process your request due to heavy >traffic. Please try to connect >again later. > >Please contact the Web server's administrator if the problem persists. Sounds