Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-18 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 12-01-17 11:15 PM, mike wrote: here is one cheep http://www.harborfreight.com/a-c-manifold-gauge-set-92649.html There are vacuum gauges and then there are VACUUM GAUGES. Those are for Auto Air conditioning where they want to get 99% of the air out. To make a Nixie, I think you have to ge

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-18 Thread Tidak Ada
16 To: neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed here is one cheep http://www.harborfreight.com/a-c-manifold-gauge-set-92649.html mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" gr

[neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-17 Thread dr pepper
Sorry to hijack a little, I was reading this very interesting thread and found something of interest to me. I like the induction heater, the simple design with 2 mosfets, I've been looking for a simple design like this for a while, my mrs makes jewellery and has been mithering for a ridiculously ex

[neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-17 Thread mike
here is one cheep http://www.harborfreight.com/a-c-manifold-gauge-set-92649.html mike On Jan 14, 6:30 am, jb-electronics wrote: > Hi, > > > Vacuum gauges are made by Varian. There's a panel meter and a little > > metal gizmo with an octal base like an old vacuum tube. Look on ebay. > > thanks,

[neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-17 Thread dylan roelofs
Hey Jens- The 'bakeout' cycle of processing any glass vacuum device is critical for long life- Every surface, and every material in the bulb has a film of water vapour on it, as well as anything else you left there with your fingers. The water has terrible effects on any filament, and even a

[neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-17 Thread Nick
On Jan 16, 2:57 pm, John Rehwinkel wrote: > > I think I will have to try with my equipment for now - the big investment I > > will do is a decent burner, but I cannot afford purchasing a top-notch pump > > and so on. > > Yeah, I'm looking for a crossfire and hand torch myself.  As the neon > bu

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-17 Thread jb-electronics
Hi John, thanks for your links, they all look interesting. Another idea for the inductive heater: There are so many inductive hot plates around that work exactly this way. Couldn't I use one of these? Jens -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixi

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
> I think I will have to try with my equipment for now - the big investment I > will do is a decent burner, but I cannot afford purchasing a top-notch pump > and so on. Yeah, I'm looking for a crossfire and hand torch myself. As the neon business in the United States is not doing well, I'm hop

RE: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread Aleksander A.Zawada
It couldn't barium getter if you want use mercury. Barium getter "exchange" another gases to mercury vapour:/. It's recommended "shining" tubes to pump system. RF heating is good, but sometimes the better is "shining". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread jb-electronics
Hi John, I think I will have to try with my equipment for now - the big investment I will do is a decent burner, but I cannot afford purchasing a top-notch pump and so on. The heaters from Neon John are quite beyond my budget, sadly, but I guess this is really something that could help me a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
> But I reckon for light bulbs you need a much better vacuum than for Nixie > tubes, right? Not really. Many light bulbs contain various gases (nitrogen, argon, xenon, bromium, iodine, etc.) and work just fine. Most gases won't harm a light bulb, even if there's some residual oxygen, it'll ox

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread jb-electronics
Hey Dylan, cool video, many thanks. If you've got any kind of spark coil, you don't need a vacuum gauge. The color of the discharge in the gas remaining in the tube will tell you the vacuum. Sounds nice! But I think I like the absolute measuring better because this way I can measure Pasc

[neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread dylan roelofs
Howdy Jens- If you've got any kind of spark coil, you don't need a vacuum gauge. The color of the discharge in the gas remaining in the tube will tell you the vacuum. You'll really need a 2-stage pump to attain enough vacuum (i've been using an old Welch for 15 years).. Once the pump has g

[neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-15 Thread neutron spin
A manometer works great but to read that high of a vacuum but you will need a mercury filled instrument...perhaps it is hard to find these days...when I worked in an instrument lab a guy blew all the mercury out of one...what a mess!hazmat crew had to fix it. There are nice digital vacuum gaug