Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-28 Thread Eddie Hoy
well guys im in tears new stator arrived looked like original but wires were soldered and not a complete connection not wound tight like hondas original so wires were in the way and made it a tight fit so had to chap it in lightly only for the middle section of stator to break free what a p

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-23 Thread Eddie Hoy
great stuff boys im learning all the time about the nighthawk eddie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-22 Thread Kurt Nolte
Not really a defect, just a limitation of the time and tech. By putting a floor on the minimum effective RPM they could get better max continuous power out of a given size of unit. Modern winding and rectifier/regulator control does away with the compromise. On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Tomm

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-22 Thread Tommy Hill
I wouldn't say a defect, just a know condition. Many older bikes use a magneto, not an alternator. This was an early alternator for these and for size and weight, just made it need to turn faster to put out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighth

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-22 Thread NghthawkLvr
Isn't that some kind of "known" manufacturers defect on these bikes?...I could've sworn I read that somewhere on Paul's site... NHL On May 20, 2016 12:03, "Tommy Hill" wrote: > It will not charge at idle, as said above. Has to be around 2-2,500 RPMs > before it starts to charge. > > -- > You r

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-20 Thread Tommy Hill
It will not charge at idle, as said above. Has to be around 2-2,500 RPMs before it starts to charge. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an emai

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-20 Thread mark . wfeld
This was good. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-20 Thread Eddie Hoy
i know your probably right kyle as youve helped me alot with my bike the fuse box and all least it would put recrods straight eddie a question for you would i get any charge at all if stator readings are yellow to yellow ok at 0.6 ohms but white to black only reading 2.3 instead of 4.0-6.0 ohms

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-20 Thread Kyle Munz
The bike will never charge at idle, even with a healthy electrical system. The break even point is around 2500 RPM. -Kyle On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Eddie Hoy wrote: > yeaha just ordered brand new stator hope thats all it needs will find out > if the bike charges on idle and solve age ol

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-20 Thread Eddie Hoy
yeaha just ordered brand new stator hope thats all it needs will find out if the bike charges on idle and solve age old problem will do this with brand new rectifier aswell eddie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group.

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-20 Thread Tommy Hill
I did this recently, too. Manual hammer driven impact driver and the wife "volunteer"! She wasn't exactly a willing participant, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-19 Thread Eddie Hoy
all i can do now is wait till pay and buy new stator thanks for the help will let you know when new stator in bike and if thats was the whole problem fingers crossed eddie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsu

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-19 Thread Lar
Good to hear you've called out the volunteer help to get the stator nut off :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lov

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-19 Thread Eddie Hoy
got mine off with wrachet got wife to stand on back brake and bike in gear -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsub

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-19 Thread Lar
Hey Eddie The voltage your getting at 4000rpm sounds much like my bike. It would charge but you had to be riding the hell out of it. Around town it was draining the battery. Your test results say the stator needs replaced. Unscrew the alternator cover, and then hopefully get the center bolt o

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-19 Thread Eddie Hoy
checks not good looks like both stators are no use eddie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroup

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-19 Thread Eddie Hoy
not looking good first stator yellow all 0.6 black to white wire same 0.6 second stator yellow all 0.6 black to white 2.3 so take it both are f- eddie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-19 Thread Eddie Hoy
thanks for the attachment got an a6 colour chart here going to work to check out stators eddie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to n

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-19 Thread Eddie Hoy
cant seem to get any ohms on my cheep multimeter i did have yellow wires checked out at my work and were ok cant remember what the black and white wire was so im going to my work this morning and check both my alternators out will send you results cheers eddie -- You received this message beca

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-18 Thread Eddie Hoy
hi lar it new battery 12.6v when charged omhs on yellow wires all check out is there magnets in the stator on this bike battery will go up to only 13v at 4000rpm eddie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscri

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-18 Thread Eddie Hoy
as far as i know its original rectifier got spare bike bit off a wreck for spares put the rectifier from that on nothing put the alternator from that bike on stil no joy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubs

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-18 Thread Lar
Hey Eddie I have a 83 hawk and ended up getting the stator rewound because it was putting out voltage but not enough. Hopefully you have a muitimeter. On the left side, remove the cover and take apart the connector from the alternator. Set your mutimeter to OHM setting, check each of the three

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-18 Thread stefano merli
That is not enough to charge the battery. It seems that the rectifier is not working. Are you able to read the A.C. voltage at the rectifier inputs (yellow wires) I will scan and post, later tonite, some sheets of the Honda shop manual that explains the procedure for troubleshooting Stefano I

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-18 Thread Eddie Hoy
checked at 4000rpm lucky if i get 13v where on alternator are the magnets -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubs

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-18 Thread stefano merli
Hi Eddie, i don't know if my reply just submitted will be published...I just joined the blog and practicing... However I wrote that I had a similar issue with my '85 CB650SC. I think I can support you in troubleshooting if you got some practice e.g if you can use a digital voltmeter. First you s

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-18 Thread stefano merli
Hello Eddie, I just joined the forum and I have been owning a Honda CB650SC for 30 years. I had a similar problem with the alternator. First thing to check is the voltage at the battery terminals with engine running at roughly 4.000 rpm. Voltage should be 13.7V minimum. Let me know and I think

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-18 Thread Eddie Hoy
i already know what it looks like ive strpped it down just dont know how its not putting out a charge eddie all readings 0.6 and not earthimg so why wont it work -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe fr

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: cb 650sc altenator

2016-05-18 Thread EGrider
Here's a view from the manual. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this gro