Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Installing from packages in tripleo-image-elements

2014-01-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2014-01-07 15:03:33 -0800: On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2014-01-07 12:53:57 -0800: On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: What would

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Installing from packages in tripleo-image-elements

2014-01-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2014-01-07 15:18:00 -0800: On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Chris Jones's message of 2014-01-07 14:43:31 -0800: Hi On 7 Jan 2014, at 22:18, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Packages do

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Installing from packages in tripleo-image-elements

2014-01-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2014-01-07 16:27:35 -0800: Another piece to the conversation I think is update philosophy. If you are always going to require a new image and no customization after build ever, ever, the messiness that source usually cause in the file system image really

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Sofware Config progress

2014-01-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Susaant Kondapaneni's message of 2014-01-06 09:25:08 -0800: Hi Steve, I am trying to understand the software config implementation. Can you clarify the following: i. To use Software config and deploy in a template, instance resource MUST always be accompanied by user_data.

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] IDE extensions in .gitignore

2014-01-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Rushi Agrawal's message of 2014-01-05 05:41:58 -0800: I can see people arguing in future over which top IDE's/editor's trashfiles should or shouldn't be included in the gitignores. Also, I believe the concept of global gitignore is a fantastic one. Has it ever actually

Re: [openstack-dev] why do we use pip -U in tox.ini?

2014-01-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-01-05 07:47:22 -0800: While waiting some inordinate amount of time to compile lxml for a tempest pep8 test, I started to wonder why is it that we are using -U on all our pip install commands in tox (it's a pretty common pattern across projects).

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements] - taskflow preventing sqla 0.8 upgrade

2014-01-05 Thread Clint Byrum
I've skimmed the rest of the thread and not seen something mentioned that seems like it matters a lot. If I missed this suggestion buried deep in the ensuing discussion, I apologize for that. Since TaskFlow wants to be generally consumable and not only driven as an OpenStack component, it should

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Vertica Storage Driver Testing

2014-01-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Luke john.hern...@hp.com wrote: On 1/2/14, 4:27 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: I don¹t think it would be that hard to get the review or gate jobs to use a real vertica instance, actually. Who do I talk to about that? http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html Oh, if you

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] - Revert change of default ephemeral fs to ext4

2014-01-05 Thread Clint Byrum
As a follow-up, I've filed this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1266262 We'll be working around this in TripleO by setting default_ephemeral_format for our baremetal clouds, but I feel we should document in Icehouse's release notes that the default will be changed to ext4 in Juno, so

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Next weeks meeting cancelled?

2014-01-02 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-01-02 01:59:23 -0800: A bunch of the TripleO folk are going to be at LCA. I'd like to cancel the meeting rather than get them all up at (IIRC) 3am. If folk who aren't going want to hold the meeting, thats fine - but I won't be around to chair :)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Vertica Storage Driver Testing

2014-01-02 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Herndon, John Luke's message of 2014-01-02 15:16:26 -0800: Hi, I¹m working on adding a vertica (www.vertica.com) storage driver to ceilometer. I would love to get this driver into upstream. However, I¹ve run into a bit of a snag with the tests. It looks like all of the existing

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] - Revert change of default ephemeral fs to ext4

2013-12-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Day, Phil's message of 2013-12-30 11:05:17 -0800: Hi, so it seems we were saying the same thing - new vms get a shared blank (empty) file system, not blank disc. How big a problem it is that in many cases this will be the already created ext3 disk and not ext4 depends I guess

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] minimum review period for functional changes that break backwards compatibility

2013-12-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Hi Phil. Thanks for the well reasoned and poignant message urging caution and forethought in change management. I agree with all of the sentiments and think that we can do better in reasoning about the impact of changes. I think this just puts further exposure on the fact that Nova needs reviewers

Re: [openstack-dev] [Spam] [TripleO] UnderCloud OverCloud

2013-12-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from LeslieWang's message of 2013-12-24 19:19:52 -0800: Dear All, Merry Christmas Happy New Year! I'm new in TripleO. After some investigation, I have one question on UnderCloud OverCloud. Per my understanding, UnderCloud will pre-install and set up all baremetal servers used for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic]Communication between Nova and Ironic

2013-12-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from LeslieWang's message of 2013-12-24 03:01:51 -0800: Hi Oleg, Thanks for your promptly reply and detail explanation. Merry Christmas and wish you have a happy new year! At the same time, I think we can discuss more on Ironic is for backend driver for nova. I'm new in ironic.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] icehouse-1 test disk images setup

2013-12-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2013-12-24 08:50:32 -0800: I built some vm image files for testing with TripleO based off of the icehouse-1 milestone tarballs for Fedora and Ubuntu. If folks are interested in giving them a try you can find a set of instructions and how to download the

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] icehouse-1 test disk images setup

2013-12-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2013-12-24 10:40:23 -0800: On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2013-12-24 08:50:32 -0800: I built some vm image files for testing with TripleO based off of the icehouse-1

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Tuskar CLI after architecture changes

2013-12-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Radomir Dopieralski's message of 2013-12-20 01:13:20 -0800: On 20/12/13 00:17, Jay Pipes wrote: On 12/19/2013 04:55 AM, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: On 14/12/13 16:51, Jay Pipes wrote: [snip] Instead of focusing on locking issues -- which I agree are very important in

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Tuskar CLI after architecture changes

2013-12-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ladislav Smola's message of 2013-12-20 05:48:40 -0800: On 12/20/2013 02:37 PM, Imre Farkas wrote: On 12/20/2013 12:25 PM, Ladislav Smola wrote: 2. Heat stack create, update This is locked in the process of the operation, so nobody can mess with it while it is updating or

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-19 04:14:51 -0800: On 12/19/2013 12:10 AM, Mike Perez wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com mailto:thin...@gmail.com wrote: snip I reviewed the TC meeting notes, and my question still stands. It seems the

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] My thoughts on the Unified Guest Agent

2013-12-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Simpson's message of 2013-12-18 07:34:14 -0800: I've been following the Unified Agent mailing list thread for awhile now and, as someone who has written a fair amount of code for both of the two existing Trove agents, thought I should give my opinion about it. I like the idea

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] My thoughts on the Unified Guest Agent

2013-12-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Dake's message of 2013-12-18 08:05:09 -0800: On 12/18/2013 08:34 AM, Tim Simpson wrote: I've been following the Unified Agent mailing list thread for awhile now and, as someone who has written a fair amount of code for both of the two existing Trove agents, thought I

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-18 09:32:30 -0800: Clint, do you mean * use os-collect-config and its HTTP transport as a base for the PoC or * migrate os-collect-config on PoC after it is implemented on oslo.messaging I presume the later, but could you clarify?

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] hybrid cloud bursting question

2013-12-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMzB2L/4?='s message of 2013-12-18 01:26:22 -0800: Hi, stackers, I know only little about Heat, and I can't wholly follow recent discussions around multi-region support in this mailing list. Please help me understand the roadmap or plan about hybrid cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Nomination for heat-core

2013-12-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-12-18 18:21:46 -0800: I would like to nominate Bartosz Górski to be a heat-core reviewer. His reviews to date have been valuable and his other contributions to the project have shown a sound understanding of how heat works. Here is his review

[openstack-dev] [Heat] [Trove] [Savanna] [Oslo] Unified Agents - what is the actual problem?

2013-12-18 Thread Clint Byrum
So I've seen a lot of really great discussion of the unified agents, and it has made me think a lot about the problem that we're trying to solve. I just wanted to reiterate that we should be trying to solve real problems and not get distracted by doing things right or even better. I actually

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-17 08:01:38 -0800: Folks, The discussion didn't result in a consensus, but it did revealed a great number of things to be accounted. I've tried to summarize top-level points in the etherpad [1]. It lists only items everyone (as it seems

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Dake's message of 2013-12-14 09:00:53 -0800: On 12/13/2013 01:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-13 12:01:01 -0800: Still, what about one more server process users will have to run? I see unified agent as library which can

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][TripleO] Nested resources

2013-12-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sylvain Bauza's message of 2013-12-14 06:23:48 -0800: 2013/12/9 Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2013-12-09 09:34:06 -0800: I'm thinking more generic: The cloud provider will provide one or more suballocating images. The one Triple

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Scott Moser's message of 2013-12-13 06:28:08 -0800: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013, Ian Wells wrote: On 10 December 2013 20:55, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: If it is just a network API, it works the same for everybody. This makes it simpler, and thus easier to scale out

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alessandro Pilotti's message of 2013-12-13 07:13:01 -0800: Hi guys, This seems to become a pretty long thread with quite a lot of ideas. What do you think about setting up a meeting on IRC to talk about what direction to take? IMO this has the potential of becoming a

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sergey Lukjanov's message of 2013-12-13 07:46:34 -0800: Hi Alessandro, it's a good idea to setup an IRC meeting for the unified agents. IMO it'll seriously speedup discussion. The first one could be used to determine the correct direction, then we can use them to discuss

Re: [openstack-dev] Generic question: Any tips for 'keeping up' with the mailing lists?

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Justin Hammond's message of 2013-12-12 08:23:24 -0800: I am a developer who is currently having troubles keeping up with the mailing list due to volume, and my inability to organize it in my client. I am nearly forced to use Outlook 2011 for Mac and I have read and attempted to

[openstack-dev] [Nova] [Neutron] How do we know a host is ready to have servers scheduled onto it?

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
I've been chasing quite a few bugs in the TripleO automated bring-up lately that have to do with failures because either there are no valid hosts ready to have servers scheduled, or there are hosts listed and enabled, but they can't bind to the network because for whatever reason the L2 agent has

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Neutron] How do we know a host is ready to have servers scheduled onto it?

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-12-12 09:19:42 -0800: On 12/12/2013 11:02 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: So I'm asking, is there a standard way to determine whether or not a nova-compute is definitely ready to have things scheduled on it? This can be via an API, or even by observing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Neutron] How do we know a host is ready to have servers scheduled onto it?

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Russell Bryant's message of 2013-12-12 09:09:04 -0800: On 12/12/2013 12:02 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: I've been chasing quite a few bugs in the TripleO automated bring-up lately that have to do with failures because either there are no valid hosts ready to have servers scheduled

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-12 09:24:13 -0800: Clint, Kevin, Thanks for reassuring me :-) I just wanted to make sure that having direct access from VMs to a single facility is not a dead end in terms of security and extensibility. And since it is not, I agree it is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Neutron] How do we know a host is ready to have servers scheduled onto it?

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Kyle Mestery's message of 2013-12-12 09:53:57 -0800: On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 12:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Russell Bryant's message of 2013-12-12 09:09:04 -0800: On 12/12/2013 12:02 PM, Clint Byrum wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2013-12-12 10:15:13 -0800: On 12/10/2013 03:49 PM, Ian Wells wrote: On 10 December 2013 20:55, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com mailto:cl...@fewbar.com wrote: If it is just a network API, it works the same for everybody. This makes it simpler

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Dake's message of 2013-12-12 12:32:55 -0800: On 12/12/2013 10:24 AM, Dmitry Mescheryakov wrote: Clint, Kevin, Thanks for reassuring me :-) I just wanted to make sure that having direct access from VMs to a single facility is not a dead end in terms of security and

Re: [openstack-dev] 答复: [OpenStack][Heat] AutoScaling scale down issue

2013-12-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Hi! This list is for discussion of ongoing bugs and features in Heat. For user-centric discussions, please use the main openstack mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Thanks! Excerpts from Haiming Yang's message of 2013-12-11 09:40:32 -0800: I think it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo] Core reviewer update Dec

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-12-09 16:31:37 -0800: On 6 December 2013 21:56, Jaromir Coufal jcou...@redhat.com wrote: Hey there, thanks Rob for keeping eye on this. Speaking for myself, as current non-coder it was very hard to keep pace with others, especially when

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 08:15:15 -0800: Guys, I see two major trends in the thread: * use Salt * write our own solution with architecture similar to Salt or MCollective There were points raised pro and contra both solutions. But I have a concern

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 08:25:26 -0800: And one more thing, Sandy Walsh pointed to the client Rackspace developed and use - [1], [2]. Its design is somewhat different and can be expressed by the following formulae: App - Host (XenStore) - Guest Agent

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Stack preview

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Richard Lee's message of 2013-12-10 09:46:49 -0800: Hey all, We're working on a blueprinthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/preview-stack that adds the ability to preview what a given template+parameters would create in terms of resources. We think this would

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] workflow for fixes involving numerous changes

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2013-12-10 03:00:26 -0800: On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:45:11AM +0200, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy wrote: - wouldn't it be better to keep all these changes in one bug and fix all misuses per file basis (with one file per patch-set for example)? It seems to me

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 11:08:58 -0800: 2013/12/10 Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 08:25:26 -0800: And one more thing, Sandy Walsh pointed to the client Rackspace developed and use - [1], [2

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 12:37:37 -0800: What is the exact scenario you're trying to avoid? It is DDoS attack on either transport (AMQP / ZeroMQ provider) or server (Salt / Our own self-written server). Looking at the design, it doesn't look like the attack

Re: [openstack-dev] [olso] [cinder] upgrade issues in lock_path in cinder after oslo utils sync

2013-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-09 08:17:45 -0800: On 12/06/2013 05:40 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2013-12-06 16:30, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2013-12-06 13:38:16 -0800: On 2013-12-06 15:14, Yuriy Taraday wrote: Hello, Sean. I get

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Schduler] Volunteers wanted for a modest proposal for an external scheduler in our lifetime

2013-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Herman Narkaytis's message of 2013-12-09 08:18:17 -0800: Hi All, Last couple of month Mirantis team was working on new scalable scheduler architecture. The main concept was proposed by Boris Pavlovic in the following blue print

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][TripleO] Nested resources

2013-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2013-12-09 09:34:06 -0800: I'm thinking more generic: The cloud provider will provide one or more suballocating images. The one Triple O uses to take a bare metal node and make vm's available would be the obvious one to make available initially. I

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Dake's message of 2013-12-09 09:41:06 -0800: On 12/09/2013 09:41 AM, David Boucha wrote: On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com mailto:mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 12/08/2013 07:36 AM, Robert Collins wrote: On 8 December

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Core criteria, review stats vs reality

2013-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2013-12-09 03:31:36 -0800: Hi all, So I've been getting concerned about $subject recently, and based on some recent discussions so have some other heat-core folks, so I wanted to start a discussion where we can agree and communicate our expectations

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Core criteria, review stats vs reality

2013-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-12-09 09:52:25 -0800: On 09/12/13 06:31, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi all, So I've been getting concerned about $subject recently, and based on some recent discussions so have some other heat-core folks, so I wanted to start a discussion where we

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2013-12-06 23:53:47 -0800: Agreed, Chatting earlier today on #cloud-init about all of this I think scott convinced me that maybe we (the joint we in the community at large) should think about asking ourselves what do we really want a guest agent

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-12-07 00:17:19 -0800: On 7 December 2013 21:08, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: So what is needed is domain specific command execution and segregation of capabilities. Sounds rather like mcollective. It does actually. If it weren't

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Nicolas Barcet's message of 2013-12-07 01:33:01 -0800: On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: So what is needed is domain specific command execution and segregation of capabilities. To further this, I know that a lot of security minded people

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo] Core reviewer update Dec

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-12-03 23:12:39 -0800: Hi, like most OpenStack projects we need to keep the core team up to date: folk who are not regularly reviewing will lose context over time, and new folk who have been reviewing regularly should be trusted with -core

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2013-12-05 21:32:54 -0800: On 12/05/2013 04:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Andrew Plunk's message of 2013-12-05 12:42:49 -0800: Excerpts from Randall Burt's message of 2013-12-05 09:05:44 -0800: On Dec 5, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Clint Byrum clint

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] capturing build details in images

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-12-04 14:19:44 -0800: So - what about us capturing this information outside the image: we can create a uuid for the build, and write a file in the image with that uuid, and outside the image we can write: - all variables (no security

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Questions around Development Process

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tzu-Mainn Chen's message of 2013-12-06 07:37:20 -0800: Hey all, We're starting to work on the UI for tuskar based on Jarda's wireframes, and as we're doing so, we're realizing that we're not quite sure what development methodology is appropriate. Some questions: a)

Re: [openstack-dev] [olso] [cinder] upgrade issues in lock_path in cinder after oslo utils sync (was: creating a default for oslo config variables within a project?)

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2013-12-06 13:38:16 -0800: On 2013-12-06 15:14, Yuriy Taraday wrote: Hello, Sean. I get the issue with upgrade path. User doesn't want to update config unless one is forced to do so. But introducing code that weakens security and let it

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2013-12-06 16:46:24 -0800: On 12/06/2013 01:38 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2013-12-05 21:32:54 -0800: On 12/05/2013 04:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Andrew Plunk's message of 2013-12-05 12:42:49 -0800

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2013-12-06 12:27:10 -0800: Another idea that I'll put up for consideration (since I work with the cloud-init codebase also). Cloud-init[1] which currently does lots of little useful initialization types of activities (similar to the racker agents

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sandy Walsh's message of 2013-12-06 12:12:16 -0800: On 12/06/2013 03:45 PM, Dmitry Mescheryakov wrote: Hello all, We would like to push further the discussion on unified guest agent. You may find the details of our proposal at [1]. Also let me clarify why we started

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2013-12-04 17:54:45 -0800: Why not just use glance? I've asked that question a few times, and I think I can collate the responses I've received below. I think enhancing glance to do these things is on the table: 1. Glance is for big blobs of data not

Re: [openstack-dev] creating a default for oslo config variables within a project?

2013-12-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Julien Danjou's message of 2013-12-05 01:22:00 -0800: On Wed, Dec 04 2013, Sean Dague wrote: Honestly, I'd love us to be clever and figure out a not dangerous way through this, even if unwise (where we can yell at the user in the LOGs loudly, and fail them in J if

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-12-05 09:49:03 -0800: On 12/5/13 11:33 AM, Randall Burt randall.b...@rackspace.com wrote: On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2013-12-05 08:35:12 -0800: On Thu, Dec 5

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Randall Burt's message of 2013-12-05 09:05:44 -0800: On Dec 5, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2013-12-04 17:54:45 -0800: Why not just use glance? I've asked that question a few times, and I think I can

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Andrew Plunk's message of 2013-12-05 12:42:49 -0800: Excerpts from Randall Burt's message of 2013-12-05 09:05:44 -0800: On Dec 5, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Clint Byrum clint at fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2013-12-04 17:54:45 -0800: Why not just

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [glance] Heater Proposal

2013-12-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-12-05 13:07:17 -0800: On 12/5/13 12:17 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-12-05 09:49:03 -0800: On 12/5/13 11:33 AM, Randall Burt randall.b...@rackspace.com wrote: On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:10 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] creating a default for oslo config variables within a project?

2013-12-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-04 10:51:16 -0800: On 12/04/2013 11:56 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2013-12-04 06:07, Sean Dague wrote: On 12/03/2013 11:21 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-03 16:05:47 -0800: On 12/03/2013 06:13 PM, Ben Nemec

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] MySQL Storage Engine

2013-12-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Paul Montgomery's message of 2013-12-04 12:04:06 -0800: TLDR: Should Solum log a warning if operators do not use the InnoDB storage engine with MySQL in Solum's control plane? Details: I was looking at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57024/ Models.py to be specific.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystoneclient] [Keystone] [Solum] Last released version of keystoneclient does not work with python33

2013-12-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2013-12-04 15:44:45 -0800: Jamie, Thanks for the guidance here. I am checking to see if any of our developers might take an interest in helping with the upstream work. At the very least, it might be nice to have some understanding of how much work

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystoneclient] [Keystone] [Solum] Last released version of keystoneclient does not work with python33

2013-12-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2013-12-04 16:53:16 -0800: Clint, On Dec 4, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2013-12-04 15:44:45 -0800: Jamie, Thanks for the guidance here. I am checking to see if any of our

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-12-03 08:08:09 -0800: I've been investigating a bug that is preventing VM's from receiving IP addresses when a Neutron service is under high load: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1192381 High load causes the DHCP agent's status updates to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-12-03 19:37:19 -0800: On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-12-03 08:08:09 -0800: I've been investigating a bug that is preventing VM's from receiving IP addresses when

Re: [openstack-dev] creating a default for oslo config variables within a project?

2013-12-03 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-03 16:05:47 -0800: On 12/03/2013 06:13 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2013-12-03 17:09, Sean Dague wrote: On 12/03/2013 05:50 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 16:23 -0600, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2013-12-03 15:56, Sean Dague wrote: This

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2013-11-25 20:25:50 -0800: Back in the Day, Barbican was just one Service of Cloud Keep. While I would say that KDS belongs in the Cloud Keep, it is not the same as, and should not be deployed with Barbican. Is it possible to keep them as separate

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][hadoop][template] Does anyone has a hadoop template

2013-11-30 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Lau's message of 2013-11-28 16:48:41 -0800: Hi, I'm now trying to deploy a hadoop cluster with heat, just wondering if someone who has a heat template which can help me do the work. Hi Jay, this is off topic for the openstack-dev mailing list. Please re-post your question

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-11-27 08:09:33 -0800: In the longer term, there seems to be a lot of demand for some sort of template catalog service, like Glance for templates. (I disagree with Clint that it should actually _be_ Glance the project as we know it, for the reasons

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-27 09:16:24 -0800: On 11/27/13 10:09 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 26/11/13 22:24, Tim Schnell wrote: I propose adding an additional field to the parameter definition: Parameters: parameter name:

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2013-11-27 08:58:16 -0800: This use case is sort of a providence case. Where did the stack come from so I can find out more about it. This exhibits similar problems to our Copyright header problems. Relying on authors to maintain their authorship

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2013-11-27 10:57:56 -0800: On 11/27/2013 01:28 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: I propose adding an additional field to the parameter definition: Parameters: parameter name: description: This is the name of a nova key pair

Re: [openstack-dev] [all project] Treating recently seen recheck bugs as critical across the board

2013-11-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2013-11-26 03:23:51 -0800: Dolph Mathews wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net mailto:robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: So my proposal is that we make it part of the base hygiene for a project

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ladislav Smola's message of 2013-11-26 06:04:12 -0800: Hello, seems too big to do the inline comments, so just a few notes here: If we truly want to have Templates portable, it would mean to have the 'metadata' somehow standardised, right? Can you point to another portable

Re: [openstack-dev] Unwedging the gate

2013-11-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-11-25 01:30:11 -0800: On 25 November 2013 22:23, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: I do wonder if we would be able to commit enough resources to just run two copies of the gate in parallel each time and require both to pass. Doubling

Re: [openstack-dev] Unwedging the gate

2013-11-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2013-11-25 06:52:02 -0800: On 11/25/2013 04:23 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2013-11-24 21:00:58 -0800: Hi All, TL;DR Last week the gate got wedged on nondeterministic failures. Unwedging the gate required drastic

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-25 14:51:39 -0800: Hi Steve, As one of the UI developers driving the requirements behind these new blueprints I wanted to take a moment to assure you and the rest of the Openstack community that the primary purpose of pushing these requirements

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] git-Integration working group

2013-11-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adrian Otto's message of 2013-11-22 18:51:16 -0800: Monty, On Nov 22, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 11/22/2013 05:37 PM, Krishna Raman wrote: Hello all, I would like to kickoff the Git integration discussion. Goal of this subgroup is

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2013-11-22 01:50:39 -0800: Tim Bell wrote: Can we make sure that the costs for the end users are also considered as part of this ? - Configuration management will need further modules - Dashboard confusion as we get multiple

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Working group on language packs

2013-11-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Clayton Coleman's message of 2013-11-22 21:43:40 -0800: On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 11/22/2013 11:34 AM, Clayton Coleman wrote: I have updated the language pack (name subject to change) blueprint with the outcomes from

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose project story wiki idea

2013-11-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Boris Pavlovic's message of 2013-11-21 00:16:04 -0800: Clint, The main idea is to have processed by human history of project. It is really impossible to aggregate automatically all data from different sources: IRC (main project chat/dev chat/meetings), Mailing Lists, Code,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-19 23:35:40 -0800: Excerpts from Steve Baker's message on 19.11.2013 21:40:54: From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 19.11.2013 21:43 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-11-20 13:46:25 -0800: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 11/19/2013 04:28:31 PM: From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 11/19/2013 04:30 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-11-20 11:09:34 -0800: OTOH, the more we restrict what can be done, the less useful this really is. I would be more specific and say it as ...the less divergent behavior is actually possible. It will be quite a bit more useful if it is boring and

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][py3] Usage of httpretty

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chuck Short's message of 2013-11-20 19:21:14 -0800: Hi, So maybe if it gets to the point where it gets too be much of a porblem we should just put it on stackforge. That should be the last resort, when upstream is deemed dead. I'm guessing upstream would not like to fade away

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-11-20 15:16:45 -0800: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 11/20/2013 05:41:16 PM: Autoscaling doesn't really fly with stateful services IMO. I presume you're concerned about the auto part, not the scaling. Even a stateful group

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose project story wiki idea

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Boris Pavlovic's message of 2013-11-19 21:33:08 -0800: Hi stackers, Currently what I see is growing amount of interesting projects, that at least I would like to track. But reading all mailing lists, and reviewing all patches in all interesting projects to get high level

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Vijay Venkatachalam's message of 2013-11-19 05:48:43 -0800: Hi Sam, Eugene, Avishay, etal, Today I spent some time to create a write-up for SSL Termination not exactly design doc. Please share your comments!

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