Oracle licensing

2003-09-16 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Did Oracle release any info on their licensing changes? I read something about site-based licensing a couple of weeks ago, haven't heard anything else since. There doesn't seem to be anything new on the Canadian Oracle Store web site. Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://ww

Oracle Licensing

2003-10-31 Thread Hatzistavrou John
Dear All, Oracle licensing has been a subject that often is risen by somebody. I though I shall share this with you. Regards, Hatzistavrou Yannis Oracle_SW_License_Guide.pdf Description: Binary data

Oracle licensing

2002-03-14 Thread Kim_Thompson
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Oracle licensing

2002-03-14 Thread Kim_Thompson
Since the topic of Oracle licensing has come up, I'm wondering how many organizations have site licensing and of what type (concurrent user, named user, or processor). We have a network license agreement for a set number of concurrent licenses and we are c

Oracle licensing

2002-03-15 Thread Kim_Thompson
Since the topic of Oracle licensing has come up, I'm wondering how many organizations have site licensing and of what type (concurrent user, named user, or processor). We have a network license agreement for a set number of concurrent licenses and w

Oracle licensing

2002-04-19 Thread Witold Iwaniec
Hi There have been some postings related to Oracle licensing. An interesting article: http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/story/2219532p-2613285c.html Witold -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Witold Iwaniec INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City

Oracle Licensing

2001-03-01 Thread Nick Mundi
Title: Oracle Licensing Dear Esteemed List, Though I am very familiar with the technical aspects of Oracle, I don't know much about Oracle licensing. I have recently been asked by one of our staff to get more information on licensing. I would be very grateful for any information relati

Re: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Dennis Taylor
At 03:35 AM 3/6/01 -0800, you wrote: >my .02 is the whole power unit thing is a good concept but the $$ per >unit is way outta whack. the only reason i say that is its been hard >for oracle to denote when people were using more than the licenses they >bought were being used. I had always setup t

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Steve . Parker
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RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Dennis Taylor
At 04:36 PM 3/5/01 -0800, you wrote: You should be able to find it at: http://store.oracle.com Thanks. It was that simple. [sigh] Shoot me now. Dennis Taylor In any human endeavor, once you have exhausted all possibilities and have failed, there will

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Jeffery Stevenson
Well, if you don't want product updates/upgrades for Oracle then you can knock about $15K off of that $45K for Oracle (and with SQL Server it looks like you can only upgrade the user licenses and not the processor licensing--looks like to upgrade you'd have to buy the new version anyways). Now for

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Dennis Taylor
At 03:00 AM 3/6/01 -0800, you wrote: > >As luck would have it I was evaluating the prices of Oracle and then SQL >Server today. > >My question at this point is, what kind of prices does Microsoft charge >for support, I was pretending to purchase SQL Server and noticed that no >mention is made

Re: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Rachel Carmichael
ipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Oracle Licensing >Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:40:43 -0800 > >At 03:35 AM 3/6/01 -0800, you wrote: > >my .02 is the whole power unit thing is a good concept but the $$ per > >unit is way outta whack. the only reason

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Tom Schruefer
Looking for a job in Oracle sales? This is a pretty convincing argument. Thanks for the additional info. >Jeffery Stevenson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/6/2001 10:10 AM writes us: >Well, if you don't want product updates/upgrades for Oracle then you can >knock about $15K off of that $45K for Or

Re: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread susan mcclain
ecipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Oracle Licensing Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:35:29 -0800 Oracle has been riding the concept of "we're oracle so you want to use our database" for a long while. I'll be one of the last to condone sql-server(as i

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Steve Orr
wn production in order to apply the new string. NOT happy making for the DBA (me) Rachel >From: Dennis Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Oracle Licensing >Date: Tue, 06 Mar

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Diana Duncan
My understanding of oracle licensing is that you pay (and pay and pay) for production, and sometimes test (kind of depends on if you are also using test as a backup of production), but not for development. So you buy support, licenses, etc. for the production boxes. Hence, the availability of

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Steve Cawley
I just went through this with Oracle and they want $$$ for all servers you are using; Production, QA, Test and development. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 2:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My understanding of oracle licensing is that you pay (and pay

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Jim Conboy
$$$ for all servers you are using; Production, QA, Test and development. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 2:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My understanding of oracle licensing is that you pay (and pay and pay) for production, and sometimes test (kind o

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Diana Duncan
>> I just went through this with Oracle and they want $$$ for all servers you are using; Production, QA, Test and development. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 2:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My understanding of oracle licensing is that you pay

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Steve Orr
ment. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 2:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My understanding of oracle licensing is that you pay (and pay and pay) for production, and sometimes test (kind of depends on if you are also using test as a backup of production), but no

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-07 Thread lerobe - Lee Robertson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Oracle Licensing >Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:40:43 -0800 > >At 03:35 AM 3/6/01 -0800, you wrote: > >my .02 is the whole power unit thing is a good concept but the $$ per > >unit is way outta whack. the only reason i say that is its bee

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-07 Thread Eric D. Pierce
Oracle profit warning spells doom: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/2001/8/ns-21312.html ---excerpt--- Lowered spending for software has hit Oracle where it hurts Oracle, the world's second largest software company, on Thursday joined the list of technology bellwethers warning that a slowing

Re: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-07 Thread Don Jerman
> you had to shut down production in order to apply the new string. > > NOT happy making for the DBA (me) > > Rachel > > >From: Dennis Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-07 Thread Patrick Housholder
ED]]On Behalf Of Eric D. *>Pierce *>Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:07 AM *>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L *>Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing *> *> *> *>Oracle profit warning spells doom: *> *>http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/2001/8/ns-21312.html *> *>---excer

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-07 Thread Patrick Housholder
essage- *>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Patrick *>Housholder *>Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 4:32 PM *>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L *>Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing *> *> *>ha, *> *>thank-god they save 1 billion dollar

RE: Oracle licensing

2003-09-16 Thread Goulet, Dick
Patrice, ANALYSTS: PER-PROCESSOR PRICING TO DIE OUT | SearchOracle.com As Oracle Corp. prepares to release new licensing fees in connection with its new 10g database and application server, analysts are predicting the arrival of a new utility pricing model. For the full details, click: http://s

RE: Oracle licensing

2003-09-17 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Thanks Dick. I like that last quote in the article... Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Patrice, ANALYSTS: PER-PROCESSOR PRICING TO DIE OUT | SearchOracle.com As Oracle Corp. prepares to release new licensin

Oracle licensing,,,,again

2001-08-30 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
I understand about how concurrent and named user licensing works for the most part. What I don't understand is when you have a web application that gets people from all over coming into our site and then routed through MTS to be sent to the Oracle database for info. How does the web stuff count

Oracle Licensing Mess

2002-03-21 Thread dgoulet
Someone posted the original on this topic, which I sort of stayed away from, I too often on those types of topics put my foot into the mouth. Anyway, the following came across the wires this morning from Information Week. Some of you may be interested, me I'm off to do some more with PostGres &

Oracle Licensing Scheme

2001-10-31 Thread George Hofilena
I can't seem to find anything clear on licensing rates at Oracle's site anymore. Maybe it's my eyes, but I just couldn't find it. Only thing I saw was their claim that they have now changed their licensing scheme to user and cpu units but I wanted the the rates. I need to know, besides (or befo

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-01 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
aspects of Oracle, I don't know much about Oracle licensing. I have recently been asked by one of our staff to get more information on licensing. I would be very grateful for any information relating to this. Also, is licensing based on the number of OS's or is it only on processers used/speed

Re: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-02 Thread Don Jerman
Last time I danced with our sales rep, power units were per server, not per user... so the power unit price would be 400*100 = 40,000 for an unlimited (Ha! at 200mhz?) number of users. If you ask nicely, yours may agree to convert any concurrent or named user licenses you have into power unit cr

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-05 Thread Martin Kendall
I'm following this thread and a worrying thought has crossed my mind:- If Oracle carries on with this pricing model, soon we will all be looking for a new job..scary :-) Martin Kendall -Original Message- Sent: 02 March 2001 22:00 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Last time

Re: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-05 Thread Dave Weber
Not so far fetched.  My company lost several very large clients to DB2 and I am without a job. Martin Kendall wrote: I'm following this thread and a worrying thought has crossed my mind:-If Oracle carries on with this pricing model, soon we will all be lookingfor a new job..scary :-)Martin K

Re: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-05 Thread Dennis Taylor
Yarg! Snarfle! Argh! (sounds of chewing up furniture) For some reason, I can't find the URL that started this conversation. I thought it might be sales.oracle.com, but that doesn't give me the power unit calculations. Can someone help? At 02:26 PM 3/5/01 -0800, you wrote: Not so far fetched

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-05 Thread Jeffery Stevenson
list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Oracle Licensing Yarg! Snarfle! Argh! (sounds of chewing up furniture) For some reason, I can't find the URL that started this conversation. I thought it might be sales.oracle.com, but that doesn't give me the power unit calculations. Can someone help

RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Tom Schruefer
As luck would have it I was evaluating the prices of Oracle and then SQL Server today. My question at this point is, what kind of prices does Microsoft charge for support, I was pretending to purchase SQL Server and noticed that no mention is made about product support. Using the "Power Un

Re: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Joseph S. Testa
Oracle has been riding the concept of "we're oracle so you want to use our database" for a long while. I'll be one of the last to condone sql-server(as i've recently had to work with it for a client, and i talked up oracle for a while) but Mr Larry is losing market share, check out any of the fin

Re: Oracle licensing,,,,again

2001-08-30 Thread Connor McDonald
In these cases, Oracle tends to charge by the power of your server multiplied by the tensile strength of your shoelace divided by the number of sheep in an arbitrary pasture plus the total number of hair folicles on your head then doubled. Seriously, I've always had best success (in Oz and UK

Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Smith, Ron L.
We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing. We have about 100 instances to monitor. Has anyone done this? Any ideas on what "Concurrent users" might mean to the majority of people? We have b

Re: Oracle Licensing Scheme

2001-10-31 Thread Byron Pearce
George: I'm not a sales guy, so I would definitely talk to Oracle for the most current pricing/configuration info (as well as discounts). However, as of the 10/19/2001 price list, the costs are $15K/CPU for Standard Edition and $40K/CPU for Enterprise Edition. The named user licenses for the sa

RE: Oracle Licensing Scheme

2001-10-31 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
George - To clarify your other question, one reason Oracle developed CPU pricing was for Internet access. This way you don't need to worry about how many people on the planet will be accessing your database. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent:

Re[2]:Oracle Licensing

2001-03-02 Thread dgoulet
Dennis, I'm sitting in the middle of the East Coast dot bomb area. I know of three dot bombs that paid a total of $100 million between them for Oracle licenses. Now that the dot com sugar daddy has been licked clean maybe reality will strike!! Dick Goulet Reply Separat

Oracle Licensing to be Transparent?

2002-07-12 Thread Orr, Steve
Evidently Oracle is going to build some web pages to spell out licensing issues and definitions. Wonder how often that web site will need to be updated. And of course everything will be crystal clear when it's done. ;-) Check it out... http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,361471,00.asp Not sure

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread traci . l . rebman
ive Corporate access to monitor new databases on a on-going basis in order for RRD to comply with Oracle licensing agreements. Traci L. Rebman Oracle Database Administrator R.R. Don

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Jared . Still
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/19/02 11:14 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients usin

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Bunyamin K. Karadeniz
L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 02/19/02 11:14 AM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject:Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users > >

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Stephane Faroult
"Smith, Ron L." wrote: > > We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using > Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing. > We have about 100 instances to monitor. > > Has anyone done this? Any ideas on what "Concurrent users" might mean to >

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Rachel Carmichael
you need to be careful if you are also using databases whose contents appear on the web, as Oracle will want you to use a web license (extremely expensive) even if the data is not directly accessed but appears on the web in static pages generated from the Oracle database. --- Stephane Faroult <[

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Thanks for the info! Ron -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L "Smith, Ron L." wrote: > > We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using > Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficie

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Jared . Still
cipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users "Smith, Ron L." wrote: > > We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using > Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have s

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Jared . Still
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/19/02 01:04 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users you need to be careful if you are also usin

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based licensing? Thanks. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L you need to be careful if you are also using d

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Rachel Carmichael
that's not the terminology they used when talkikng about it with me. the sales rep specifically said "web license" which led me to believe it was another form of pricing. --- DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based > licensin

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Steve McClure
Our site just went through this, and Oracle determined that we needed to use CPU licenses. We actually replaced our 4 cpu DG Aviion with a new Sunfire 3800 with two sparc3 processors. The money saved in Oracle licensing paid for the new equipment. They simply came in and told us that the

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Jon Baker
Title: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users I too went through this mess (twice).  A CPU license gets you unlimited.  If it's on the web, they don't like the idea of using an application server that utilizes one connection with internal login/logout capability/security.  Why twic

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Kwek Li Gek
While we are on the topic of oracle licensing, can someone help to clear up some doubts on named user licensing that I have? We have an existing 5-named user license for a small oracle 8i (8.1.5) database we have, but right now, it seems to be restricting the number of user sessions to 5

Re: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Kwek Li Gek
While we are on the topic of oracle licensing, can someone help to clear up some doubts on named user licensing that I have? We have an existing 5-named user license for a small oracle 8i (8.1.5) database we have, but right now, it seems to be restricting the number of user sessions to 5

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-19 Thread Suhen Pather
Leo, The named user license is concurrent per session/connections to the database. Although you have 1 userid defined you will not be allowed to have more than 5 users connect to the instance simultaneously. Regards $uhen While we are on the topic of oracle licensing, can someone help to clear

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Leo K
The named user license is concurrent per session/connections to the > database. > Although you have 1 userid defined you will not be allowed to have more than > 5 users connect to the instance simultaneously. > > Regards > $uhen > > While we are on the topic of oracle licensi

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread אדר יחיאל
8 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users > > Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based > licensing? > Thanks. > Dennis Williams > DBA > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager that negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore, and it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread אדר יחיאל
2 3:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users > > Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager > that > negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU >

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
TECTED]] > Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users > > Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager > that > negotiates the Oracle licensing a

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Steve McClure
Our Oracle rep fully understood that our DB is accessed via our intranet, a large third party network, and the internet. We were only required to purchase CPU based licensing. There was no additional "Web" licensing fee. After reading this, I am concerned they will be back to discuss more fees.

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Jay Hostetter
2002 3:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users > > Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager > that > negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Jared . Still
list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Our Oracle rep fully understood that our DB is accessed via our intranet, a large third party network, and the internet. We were only required to purchase CPU based licensing. Th

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
ad this problem when implementing CICS for Oracle on the mainframe. Even Tuxedo on client/server has this issue. These transaction monitors act as gates to the Oracle world. We had to price average usage amount to accommodate our Oracle licensing. Hope this helps. Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Techni

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Grabowy, Chris
know if it is named or CPU or whatever. Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject:

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread michaelcupp
Title: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Maybe it has something to do with whether you post your data to an internet or intranet site.  ?? -Original Message- From: Steve McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
and connections. We had this problem when implementing CICS for Oracle on the mainframe. Even Tuxedo on client/server has this issue. These transaction monitors act as gates to the Oracle world. We had to price average usage amount to accommodate our Oracle licensing. Hope this helps. Th

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Kevin Lange
20, 2002 3:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users > > Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager > that > negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU

Re:RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread dgoulet
se the DB VIA internet. I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever. Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORA

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
More likely how close Uncle Larry is to Bill Gates in the World's Richest Man contest. Jerry Whittle ACIFICS DBA NCI Information Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 618-622-4145 > -Original Message- > From: Farnsworth, Dave [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > From following this thread on Oracles p

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Steve McClure
] > -Original Message- > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users > > Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"?

Re:RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread dgoulet
er but several thousand connections. We had this problem when implementing CICS for Oracle on the mainframe. Even Tuxedo on client/server has this issue. These transaction monitors act as gates to the Oracle world. We had to price average usage amount to accommodate our Oracle licensing.

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Bellows, Bambi
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users > > Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager > that > negotiates the Oracle lic

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Kevin Lange
if you use the DB VIA internet. I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever. Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Steve Rospo
Nuclear Plant? Don't say Larry didn't warn you: "The Programs are not intended for use in any nuclear, aviation, mass transit, medical, or other inherently dangerous applications. It shall be the licensee's responsibility to take all appropriate fail-safe, backup, redundancy, and other measure

Oracle Licensing vs. The Others

2002-02-22 Thread Jay Hostetter
Our management has started asking questions about how Oracle's licensing costs compare to other database vendors. Specifically, DB2 and Sql Server. I think I am pretty well armed with the "features" arguments, at least for Oracle vs. Sql Server, but I really have no clue about licensing and

Big news regarding Oracle licensing...

2002-03-20 Thread Jim Hawkins
Please read the following article and try not to choke... http://investor.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-9407413-0.html?tag=ltnc Pricing change irks Oracle customers By: Alorie Gilbert 3/19/02 5:25 PM Source: News.com A pricing disagreement between Oracle and some of its databas

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-03-22 Thread Abdul Aleem
like this sell or don't. (Hard to say since we want to have the product). So have to live with it. Aleem -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:43 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:Re[2]: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users Wedn

Re: Re[2]:Oracle Licensing

2001-03-02 Thread William Beilstein
I doubt it, Oracle will say that their profit margins are too low so they will up their licence costs for everyone else. Larry can you spell greed. >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/02/01 12:35PM >>> Dennis, I'm sitting in the middle of the East Coast dot bomb area. I know of three dot bombs that

LPAR on AIX and Oracle Licensing

2003-03-07 Thread Henry, Keith
Our systems folks are talking about consolidating a couple of machines by using LPARs. If we have a machine running AIX with 6 processors, can we license Oracle with 2 processors if those are segmented out within an LPAR? It's always a challenge to get hold of our sales rep, so I thought I woul

Re: Oracle Licensing to be Transparent?

2002-07-12 Thread Jay Hostetter
"Kimberly Floss, database administrator team leader at Quaker Oats Co., in Chicago, said she hopes the guide helps resolve Oracle's issues. Floss, who manages Oracle databases, has not had licensing problems herself ..." She obviously has never been involved in any Oracle licens

Re[2]: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Wednesday, February 20, 2002, 5:58:19 PM, you wrote: KL> For example, we support a 911 center. An Oracle-based application KL> displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker. If you KL> look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by KL> the software t

Re: Oracle Licensing vs. The Others

2002-02-22 Thread Jared Still
Re the 22% annual support cost. This is apparently not unusually high. We were quote a 22% for an application last week. This probably pales when compared to mainframe maintenance fees. Jared On Friday 22 February 2002 06:03, Jay Hostetter wrote: > Our management has started asking questi

RE: Oracle Licensing vs. The Others

2002-02-22 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
>-This probably pales when compared to mainframe maintenance fees. And don't forget that mainframes also "rent" the OS for a hefty fee!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:25 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Re the 22% annual support cost. This is

RE: Oracle Licensing vs. The Others

2002-02-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jay - Try this URL: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/compare/pricecomparison.asp naturally it is entirely biased in Microsoft's favor and I don't see where it mentions that under Oracle's pricing model, upgrades are included, but not with Microsoft. Oracle and IBM probably have equivalent d

RE: Oracle Licensing vs. The Others

2002-02-24 Thread אדר יחיאל
ecipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing vs. The Others > > >-This probably pales when compared to mainframe maintenance fees. > > And don't forget that mainframes also "rent" the OS for a hefty fee!! > > Dave > > -Origina

Re:RE: Oracle Licensing vs. The Others

2002-02-25 Thread dgoulet
Yup, definetly biased. The last I have in my note book is that NT/2000 cannot support more than 4 processors without going into a cluster which adds BIG $$$ to the cost. Also adds $$$ to Sql*Servers costs & boy does it add to DB2!! Dick Goulet Reply Separator__

Re: LPAR on AIX and Oracle Licensing

2003-03-09 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Oracle's Software Investment Guide talks about these things, and it's avalable from Oracle.com . Basically, if a machine can be fitted with more than four processors (even if only one or two have been placed in the box), then you have to buy the CPU option. However, if the machine architecture

Oracle Licensing for a Clustered Server Configuration

2001-08-27 Thread Srinagesh Battula
Title: Oracle Licensing for a Clustered Server Configuration Hi, Does Oracle Corp. require you to buy the RDBMS license for the fail-over server (as well) in a 2-node cluster server environment? Thanks Nagesh

Re[2]: Oracle Licensing to be Transparent?

2002-07-12 Thread dgoulet
er at Quaker Oats Co., in Chicago, said she hopes the guide helps resolve Oracle's issues. Floss, who manages Oracle databases, has not had licensing problems herself ..." She obviously has never been involved in any Oracle licensing discussions. Ever try to get more than 1 Oracle empl

RE: Oracle Licensing for a Clustered Server Configuration

2001-08-27 Thread Shaw, John B
Title: Oracle Licensing for a Clustered Server Configuration Only if it's active on the fail over node - if it's passive you don't need a second license. -Original Message-From: Srinagesh Battula [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 1:07

RE: Oracle Licensing for a Clustered Server Configuration

2001-08-27 Thread Srinagesh Battula
Title: Oracle Licensing for a Clustered Server Configuration John, are/were you in a similiar env..   ..very curious..coz Oracle is forcing us to buy a second license for the passive fail-over server ..   Thanks -Original Message-From: Shaw, John B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent

RE: Oracle Licensing for a Clustered Server Configuration

2001-08-27 Thread Srinagesh Battula
Title: RE: Oracle Licensing for a Clustered Server Configuration Our failover server neither has a standby database nor oracle binaries. In our Clustered server configuration, when a fail over happens the entire diskgroups will be de-ported from the primary and imported on the failover

RE: Re[2]: Oracle Licensing to be Transparent?

2002-07-12 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
ses, has not had licensing problems herself ..." She obviously has never been involved in any Oracle licensing discussions. Ever try to get more than 1 Oracle employee to give you the same answer on this topic? Especially when it comes to clusters and web servers. Sometimes, even the simp

Marc Andreessen speaks frankly at Oracle AppsWorld / RE: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Eric D. Pierce
re: Andreessen says software companies, customers act as adversaries backgrounder: ---begin excerpt--- http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/02/22/010222hnandreessen.xml?p=br&s=4?0226mnlv (url may wrap) Thursday February 22, 2001 "NEW ORLEANS -- Marc Andreessen may have crea

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