Re: Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread scars
I was very happy that my ME takes pictures without battery.. I was on my way to a roundtrip through norway when I realized that the meter doesn't work. It was at a train station and my train was leaving 10 minutes later. There was a camera store in the station and I rushed in and bought a new

Re: Spotmatics are a Philosophy, WAS: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
I met him a number of times myself, back in the days when I was working full time for car magazines. I spent a few days with him on the Delmar Peninsula back in 1980 at a Volkswagen launch. He had a trendously intelligent dry wit and could entertain the whole table at dinner. I remember the tiff

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread Pål Jensen
Mike wrote: Odd, but no one really makes a top-quality classic MMM SLR camera these days, unless you count the Hunchback of Solms, the strange and bulky (and singularly unpopular) Leica R9. Didn't Leica recently discontiue the R6.2; arguably the only Leica SLR that make some sense? At least

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: Just a dream God knows how the Leica R system fares now with the increasing popularity of digital. I wouldn't have thought the R cameras would have appealed to the same demographic. For that matter, I am still trying to figure out

Re: Spotmatics are a Philosophy, WAS: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread Pål Jensen
Mike wrote: No sooner was the war against station wagons won than we get...this. Roadways clotted with bastardized _trucks_. Honestly, not in my wildest imaginings thirty years ago (as I soaked up Patrick Bedard in Study Hall), could I have even conceived of anything as tasteless and

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread Pål Jensen
Peter wrote: Battery dependance is especially bad when you're two days on foot away from the nearest store and find out that the batteries you had for backup died of disuse. You don't have to be a survivalist to appreciate a mechanical backup. (Stainless Steal? Magnesium? what the

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
One more type of camera user that you don't understand. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: God knows how the Leica R system fares now with the increasing popularity of digital.

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
This is impossible. In 1964 a bill was passed that introduced a new Norse God for Pentaxes, and since that time no Pentax has remained in a dysfunctional state for more than 19 minutes in Norway. This is common knowledge. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was very happy that my ME takes pictures

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread Steve Desjardins
For those with a survivalist mindset, anything battery-dependent might not work in a post-apocalyptic society, but for the rest of us, AA batteries are usually pretty easy to find. . . .a post-apocalytpic society with 35 mm film but no batteries . . . The metal manual focus is tricky, however.

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread John Whicker
William Robb wrote: I wouldn't have thought the R cameras would have appealed to the same demographic. For that matter, I am still trying to figure out what demographic the R system would appeal to. Hi William, You can add me to the list of people who don't understand the appeal of the Leica

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread John Whicker
- Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:35 AM Subject: Re: Just a dream If Pentax built an FM3n like camera in K mount I'd buy one. If they announced your electro-mechanical dream I'd pre-order. The Idea

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread John Whicker
Peter Alling wrote: If Pentax built an FM3n like camera in K mount I'd buy one. Just how far from this ideal is the MX? I changed from the FM3A to the MX and found it had all that I *needed* ... John

Re: Spotmatics are a Philosophy, WAS: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread Steve Desjardins
Good article. And he's completely right, at least for the industrial countries. The universities are just waiting to get rid of books. Most of my scientific journals are now online, since the library is running out of space and since it's a much better medium for a changing field. Students are

Re: Spotmatics are a Philosophy, WAS: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread Ed Matthew
Mike wrote: --Music listening as a hobby. Not only has vinyl been relegated to the margins (in my youth I was an enthusiastic record collector, and I still consider turntables to be among the most satisfying of toys), but two-channel recorded music is beginning to atomize, subsumed into a

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
... or buy Pentax Limited lenses. At a high level I don't see any difference between people with money buying the car/camera/vehicle/lens/boat/plane/house/truck they like. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the appeal of the Hummer H1. People who have more money than sense.

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread scars
*g* It wasn't a dysfunctional pentax... I just could't imagine that a new bought battery was already empty and dicharged.. the camera was fine... you can see the outcome of that trip at http://www.xjapan.de/fotopage/fotos.html ^_^ bye Katrin On 31 Jan 2003 at 7:54, Bruce Rubenstein wrote:

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread Bill Owens
Mornin' Steve I have heard from someone who should know that the K-1000 would be too expensive to build this day and time. It's apparently much less expensive to use electronic components that are modular, rather than the large amount of hand work that is necessary for an all manual camera.

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-31 Thread Steve Desjardins
Well, I knew the answer had to be something like this because you can get $200-250 for a good used K-1000 so you could probably get a bit more for a new one. Given this, however, it shouldn't surprise anyone that the MZ-S is $800 USD. I have heard from someone who should know that the K-1000

Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Mike Johnston
LX has never been the no.1 choice for me considered it's relability track record, and ongoing expensive service bills. It is a lovely camera when it works. Both Super A/Program and MX are a lot more reliable imho, and I certainly would not recommend to trade both for a LX. All this talk

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: Just a dream LX has never been the no.1 choice for me considered it's relability track record, and ongoing expensive service bills. It is a lovely camera when it works. Both Super A/Program and MX are a lot more reliable imho, and I certainly would not recommend

RE: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Rob Brigham
I think it all depends how literally you real what was quoted. What they ideally want is exactly that, a camera that you CAN all take to your graves, but also one that they will be able to persuade you not to. What they need is to then provide you later with a camera that you would rather take

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Pål Jensen
Mike wrote: Of course this is not what any company wants...to sell a camera that will last forever and never need updating. Manufacturers want to sell cameras, not get into the business of servicing 25-year-old warhorses. Perhaps if they want to make the definitive and LAST film SLR; it will

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Mike Johnston
Perhaps if they want to make the definitive and LAST film SLR; it will never be replaced anyway! Good point! --Mike

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Mike Johnston
A friend from Pentax who monitors this list read my Just a dream post and had this comment: The consumer, while expressing disdain for AF cameras, basically refuses to purchase manual focusing cameras. I guess that's pretty much that! --Mike

Re[2]: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Alin Flaider
Mike wrote: MJ A friend from Pentax who monitors this list... Ooops, so there is a taupe on the list! Now the question is does he report further or is he reading just for fun... anyway, it's interesting to read an officious opinion. MJ The consumer, while expressing disdain for AF

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Bob Keefer
Mike: Be sure and order one for me. It's frustrating, isn't it, to love a camera style that's dying out right before our eyes. --- Bob Keefer Keefer Photography Fine art hand-painted photos www.bkpix.com

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Camdir
A friend from Pentax who monitors this list read my Just a dream post and had this comment: The consumer, while expressing disdain for AF cameras, basically refuses to purchase manual focusing cameras. Mike, if they made a manual focus range that would be a start. I think. My comment

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pat White Subject: Re: Just a dream A stainless steel SLR would probably be too heavy, so magnesium is a good alternative. Buddy of mine just bought an Olympus 5500 (?). Magnesium shell. Looks kinda like a quality rangefinder camera, and feels quite nice

Re: Spotmatics are a Philosophy, WAS: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing I have left are books. Fortunately, books endure: one lifetime is not long enough to see them eclipsed. However, if the situation with books goes like cars, stereos, movies, and cameras, pretty soon all new books will be paperbacks and most

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Peter Alling
Jeez, Mike they built the LX for 20 years, isn't that enough? At 05:30 AM 1/30/2003 -0600, you wrote: LX has never been the no.1 choice for me considered it's relability track record, and ongoing expensive service bills. It is a lovely camera when it works. Both Super A/Program and MX are

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Peter Alling
a couple of autofocus lenses. At 09:49 AM 1/30/2003 -0600, you wrote: A friend from Pentax who monitors this list read my Just a dream post and had this comment: The consumer, while expressing disdain for AF cameras, basically refuses to purchase manual focusing cameras. I guess that's pretty

Re: Just a dream

2003-01-30 Thread Peter Alling
Battery dependance is especially bad when you're two days on foot away from the nearest store and find out that the batteries you had for backup died of disuse. You don't have to be a survivalist to appreciate a mechanical backup. (Stainless Steal? Magnesium? what the hell happened to Brass,