[PEN-L:250] Re: Re: what to do with Clinton II

1998-09-25 Thread lipowg
Nonsense, occasional vindictive silliness never hurt anything. I spent a great of deal of time on another list having to explain why I did not want Clinton impeached by the right wing. An occassional reminder that he is one of the bad guys, that we are defending him on civil liberties grounds, as

[PEN-L:239] Re: Disgruntled

1998-09-25 Thread AK Sinha
> BY HEATHER CHAPLIN > The very real problems of the modern-day workplace -- stagnant salaries, > long hours, economic disparity, demoralizing conditions, eroding civil > liberties -- have been trivialized in the incredibly unfunny world of > "Dilbert" and essentially ignored by the business pa

[PEN-L:249] Re: what to do with Clinton II

1998-09-25 Thread valis
Quoth Gar Lipow: > Jim Hurd on another lists proposed he accept voluntary chemical > castration as the price of staying in office... I suggested the > surgical kind would probably be more acceptable to Clinton, as he is > used to trading his balls for political power. > > James Devine wrote: > >

[PEN-L:245] The DoA whopper

1998-09-25 Thread valis
Frank Durgin ponders, in part: . > Net farm income in 1993 was $43.6 billion. The US Department of > Agriculture's budget that year was $63 Billion. > [I]f in addition to the $63 billion > spent by the Federal Departm

[PEN-L:244] RE: re PEN-L:238] [Fwd: The Agribusiness Examiner #4]

1998-09-25 Thread Max Sawicky
>Does anyone know if there is a source that gives US combined state spending. What I have in mind here is if in addition to the $63 billion spent by the Federal Department of Agriculture one added total state spending governments it would all come to a pretty lofty sum. I would like to be able to

[PEN-L:243] re PEN-L:238] [Fwd: The Agribusiness Examiner #4]

1998-09-25 Thread Frank Durgin
Folloiwng are what I consider some very significant US Farm Statistics Total number of farms in US in 1992: 1,925,000 The largest 16,000 (0.8% of all US farms) accounted for 33% of all farm sales. The largest 47,000 (2.4 % of all US farms) accounted for 45.9% of all farm sales. The largest 126

[PEN-L:248] Re: what to do with Clinton

1998-09-25 Thread lipowg
Jim Hurd on another lists proposed he accept voluntary chemical castration as the price of staying in office... I suggested the surgical kind would probably be more acceptable to Clinton, as he is used to trading his balls for political power. James Devine wrote: > > from SLATE: >Forget censure.

[PEN-L:246] Re: chicken hawk mutual funds

1998-09-25 Thread Tom Walker
Jim Devine wrote, >Tom, I think this is much too simple. The US wanted to defend its empire >against any kind of nationalist revolt, especially those which were >left-leaning in any way. The invasion of the Dominican Republic in 1965 had >nothing to do with demographics. The US leaders thought th

[PEN-L:247] what to do with Clinton

1998-09-25 Thread James Devine
from SLATE: >Forget censure. Forget impeachment. How about putting the Big Creep to work clearing roadside trash or dishing out soup kitchen grub? David Plotz proposes a community-service sentence for Clinton.< Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://clawww.lmu.edu/Departments/ECON/jdevine.html

[PEN-L:240] RCPT: Re: Disgruntled

1998-09-25 Thread ECUSERS
Confirmation of reading: your message - Date:25 Sep 98 18:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:239] Re: Disgruntled Was read at 12:35, 25 Sep 98.

[PEN-L:235] Bring back the buffalo

1998-09-25 Thread Louis Proyect
Tribes seek to restore spirit by restoring buffalo _ BY JODI RAVE Lincoln Journal Star CROW AGENCY, Mont. Leroy Stewart grew up in the Big Horn Mountains, always with his grandfather, always close to the land. T

[PEN-L:234] Disgruntled

1998-09-25 Thread Louis Proyect
BY HEATHER CHAPLIN I met Daniel Levine when I was working at my first real post-college job. I was an editorial assistant at a Bay Area business paper, and while I have since learned to kiss the very ground that working environment was built on, at the time I was shocked and appalled by the horro

[PEN-L:233] how big was yours when you started?

1998-09-25 Thread Thomas Kruse
Starting Out: Average starting salaries for this year's college graduates: Bachelor's Degree Salary: Chemical engineering $43,762 Electrical engineering $40,397 Computer engineering $39,583 Computer science $38,475 Management information systems $35,925 Accounting $31,505 Business $29,784 Libera

[PEN-L:241] Re: chicken hawk mutual funds

1998-09-25 Thread James Devine
>"What did you do during the war, daddy?" >"I went to graduate school, my son." > >There are two ways to look at the 1A selective service classification. You >could view 1A as the point of the whole exercise and you'd be wrong. Or you >could view 1A as an admission of failure to comply with the in

[PEN-L:232] Cherokee slave-owners

1998-09-25 Thread Louis Proyect
A couple of months ago my friend the economics professor Michael Perelman referred me to a very important book on the Blackfoot and the whiskey trade in the 19th century. What it revealed is that whiskey was introduced by fur trading companies in exactly the same way that opium was introduced by t

[PEN-L:231] BLS Daily Report

1998-09-25 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- =_NextPart_000_01BDE88C.C0F364A0 BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 1998 Median number of years that wage and salary employees worked for their c

[PEN-L:238] [Fwd: The Agribusiness Examiner #4]

1998-09-25 Thread Michael Perelman
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --9899F104A2815202FC5F2D0F Albert V. Krebs wrote: > The > AGRIBUSINESS > EXAMINER Issue #4 September 24, 1998 > > Montioring Corporate Agribusiness From A Public Interest Perspective > > > A.V. Krebs > Edit

[PEN-L:230] Re: more on work and family values

1998-09-25 Thread Thomas Kruse
At 23:00 24/09/98 -0700, you wrote: >michael perelman wrote, > >>A couple of days ago NPR had a story about Native Americans being poor >>employees because their family obligations are too strong. They are too >>prone to take time off to help a friend or family member in need. Yup. Key lines

[PEN-L:236] chicken hawk mutual funds

1998-09-25 Thread Tom Walker
"and it's one, two, three, what are we fightin' for? don't know and ah don't give a damn, next stop is viet nam" what good is poetics? Back in Davis in 1966 I took a course called Rhetoric. Thought it would be something like public speaking. The national debate topic that year was something like

[PEN-L:237] Re: more on work and family values

1998-09-25 Thread Michael Eisenscher
Utterly disgraceful, isn't it!! Imagine---people actually having a stronger sense of community and humanity and devotion to family than of avarice, narrow self-interest, and the capitalist work ethos. My vision of socialism is a system where all work is valued but family and community come first

[PEN-L:229] Re: Re: the growth of global

1998-09-25 Thread Thomas Kruse
Regrading Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: (etc.) Max's note on the political implication of relative incomes are important. Missing from our chat, though, are the kinds of real vulnerabilites (and on the upside, potentials) that accompany (or not!) various levels of income

[PEN-L:228] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the growth of global

1998-09-25 Thread Doug Henwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 9/24/98 3:03:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ><< everyone else gets a smidgen richer, then, yes, most people > would feel poorer. Even Adam Smith agreed. > >> > > but it isn't 'everyone' else. it's only 1 out of 1

[PEN-L:227] Re: Re: more on work and family values

1998-09-25 Thread Mike Yates
Friends, I agree completely with Tom. I have been working for 30 years and the employer expects more work now than when I began. I get so pissed off at all of the deals being made, the hypocrisy, the lack of respect for good work that i literally drive myself crazy, into such a depressed state