Re: [HACKERS] Tupple statistics function

2001-09-21 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ... Maybe he has coded that in there. > > Maybe so, but he didn't say. That's why I was asking for exact > documentation. As you can see from the source code, it just use HeapTupleSatisfiesNow(). I wrote this function for the admin use. He/she sho

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

2001-09-21 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> > What about the server versioning issue? I see no mention of > > REL_16_1p as being safe to use. Please confirm that this is in > > fact the 16_1d or 16_1e release!! > This is what is/was latest in ports after you mentioned the problem ... > I'll check ports again over the next day or so to see

Re: [HACKERS] Tupple statistics function

2001-09-21 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> Tatsuo Ishii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I have written a small function that show how many tuples are dead > > etc. in a specified table. > > Dead according to whose viewpoint? Under MVCC this seems to be > in the eye of the beholder... > > > Shall I add this function into contrib direct

Re: [HACKERS] Tupple statistics function

2001-09-21 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... Maybe he has coded that in there. Maybe so, but he didn't say. That's why I was asking for exact documentation. regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/r

Re: [HACKERS] Tupple statistics function

2001-09-21 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Tatsuo Ishii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I have written a small function that show how many tuples are dead > > etc. in a specified table. > > Dead according to whose viewpoint? Under MVCC this seems to be > in the eye of the beholder... You can know if the tuple is visible to other backe

Re: [HACKERS] Tupple statistics function

2001-09-21 Thread Tom Lane
Tatsuo Ishii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have written a small function that show how many tuples are dead > etc. in a specified table. Dead according to whose viewpoint? Under MVCC this seems to be in the eye of the beholder... > Shall I add this function into contrib directory? No real ob

Re: [HACKERS] Tupple statistics function

2001-09-21 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Hi, > > I have written a small function that show how many tuples are dead > etc. in a specified table. Example output is: > > test=# select pgstattuple('tellers'); > NOTICE: physical length: 0.02MB live tuples: 200 (0.01MB, 58.59%) dead tuples: 100 >(0.00MB, 29.30%) overhead: 12.11% > pgst

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL funding/organization

2001-09-21 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Three things that GB provided for their $25million: > > 1. Tom's ability to focus on programming more > 2. Bruce's ability to travel and evangelize(sp?) more > 3. www.greatbridge.org > > Three things that are going to change now that GB is gone: > > 1. tom's wife will see more of him > 2. bru

[HACKERS] Tupple statistics function

2001-09-21 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
Hi, I have written a small function that show how many tuples are dead etc. in a specified table. Example output is: test=# select pgstattuple('tellers'); NOTICE: physical length: 0.02MB live tuples: 200 (0.01MB, 58.59%) dead tuples: 100 (0.00MB, 29.30%) overhead: 12.11% pgstattuple

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

2001-09-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote: > > Fixed ... my exclude file had a rule in it that prevented odbc from being > > rsync'd down ... all should be downloaded now ... > > Great! Haven't tested it yet, but Otto is happy so I'm sure I'll be > too... > > > > Server software version: REL_16_

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

2001-09-21 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> Fixed ... my exclude file had a rule in it that prevented odbc from being > rsync'd down ... all should be downloaded now ... Great! Haven't tested it yet, but Otto is happy so I'm sure I'll be too... > > Server software version: REL_16_1p3 > > This does *not* seem to be fresh enough. JDP reco

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

2001-09-21 Thread Otto Hirr
Thanks Marc ! I just cvsup'ed and odbc seems to be all back. Thanks ! Best regards, .. Otto Otto Hirr OLAB Inc 503.617.6595 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marc > G. Fournier > Sent: Friday, September 21, 200

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

2001-09-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Fixed ... my exclude file had a rule in it that prevented odbc from being rsync'd down ... all should be downloaded now ... as for a 'sitemap', the server that all of this is on is meant to be purelya 'mirror' of the central one on mail.postgresql.org, except there are no accounts on the machine

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

2001-09-21 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> 2) I just sync'ed via cvsup at cvsup.postgresql.org and it deleted all >under pgsql/src/interfaces/odbc/*. It also does not seem to appear >anywhere else. What's up? I see this too. I blew away my repository and populated it from scratch, and still see the problem. In fact, the odbc d

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] [LARGE] select * from cursor foo

2001-09-21 Thread Alex Pilosov
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Tom Lane wrote: > > I've looked this over, and I think it's not mature enough to apply at > this late stage of the 7.2 cycle; we'd better hold it over for more work > during 7.3. Major problems: > 1. Insufficient defense against queries that outlive the cursors they > selec

Re: [HACKERS] anoncvs failure...

2001-09-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
what sort of error? On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Ned Wolpert wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Folks- > > Has the password for anoncvs been changed? I can't seem to get into it > anymore. > > > > > Virtually, > Ned Wolpert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > D08C2F45: 28E7 56CB 58AC C

[HACKERS] I have returned

2001-09-21 Thread Bruce Momjian
I am back from one week vacation. I will work through the mailing lists tomorrow and leave for OSDN conference on Sunday afternoon, EST. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive,

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] [LARGE] select * from cursor foo

2001-09-21 Thread Tom Lane
Alex Pilosov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Alex, could we have this resubmitted in "diff -c" format? Plain diff >> format is way too risky to apply. > Resubmitted. In case list server chokes on the attachment's size, it is > also available on www.formenos.org/pg/cursor.fix5.diff I've looked th

[HACKERS] anoncvs failure...

2001-09-21 Thread Ned Wolpert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Folks- Has the password for anoncvs been changed? I can't seem to get into it anymore. Virtually, Ned Wolpert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> D08C2F45: 28E7 56CB 58AC C622 5A51 3C42 8B2B 2739 D08C 2F45 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0

Re: [HACKERS] Further CVS errors

2001-09-21 Thread Oleg Bartunov
Thanks. It works now for me Regards, Oleg On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > try that ... you might have to remove the pgsql directory first, but I've > just tried from a remote machine and ran into same problems (testing from > same machine isn't necessari

Re: [HACKERS] Further CVS errors

2001-09-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
try that ... you might have to remove the pgsql directory first, but I've just tried from a remote machine and ran into same problems (testing from same machine isn't necessarily good *groan*) ... it looks like its working for me now ... On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Oleg Bartunov wrote: > Marc, > > I'm

Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl needs a SIGHUP option

2001-09-21 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom Lane writes: >> What should the option be called? > If you accept the Linux Standards Base as a precedent for the other > options, it should be "reload". Works for me. regards, tom lane ---(end o

Re: [HACKERS] psql and security

2001-09-21 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane writes: > No, I think you're missing the point --- we're concerned about > reconnecting as a different user, not reconnecting to a different > database. Oh, of course. I agree, in that case the password shouldn't be reused. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://funkturm.ho

Re: [HACKERS] Further CVS errors

2001-09-21 Thread Patrick Welche
On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 07:27:10PM +0200, Horák Daniel wrote: ... > but still I am getting > > > cannot create_adm_p /tmp/cvs-serv24877/ChangeLogs > > Permission denied Me Too! ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?

Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl needs a SIGHUP option

2001-09-21 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane writes: > Any objections? No. Definitely needed. > What should the option be called? "pg_ctl hup" is short but maybe too > Unix-sysadminy; perhaps something like "pg_ctl reconfig"? If you accept the Linux Standards Base as a precedent for the other options, it should be "reload". T

Re: [HACKERS] Further CVS errors

2001-09-21 Thread Horák Daniel
I am running the command as you have written: > cd pgsql > cvs -q update -APd . but still I am getting > cannot create_adm_p /tmp/cvs-serv24877/ChangeLogs > Permission denied on both Cygwin and Linux my CVS/Repository for the top-level directory /projects/cvsroot/pgsql and I have tries only

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble

2001-09-21 Thread Alex Pilosov
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote: > > $ ping cvsup.postgresql.org > > PING rs.postgresql.org: 64 byte packets > > 64 bytes from 64.39.15.238: icmp_seq=0. time=57. ms > > 64 bytes from 64.39.15.238: icmp_seq=1. time=70. ms > > Perhaps there is a routing problem somewhere between you and

Re: [HACKERS] an already existing alter table drop column ?!?!?!

2001-09-21 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Gowey, Geoffrey wrote: > While looking through the code I found an already existing alter table drop > column in src/backend/parser/gram.y. However, when I try to run it in psql > it comes back with a not implemented. Was the left hand not talking to the > right hand when

[HACKERS] pg_ctl needs a SIGHUP option

2001-09-21 Thread Tom Lane
When modifying postgresql.conf (or, now, pg_hba.conf) one must send a SIGHUP to the postmaster to get it to pay attention. Seems like it'd be nice if pg_ctl had an option to do that, rather than having to muck about with looking in ps output. Any objections? What should the option be called? "

[HACKERS] an already existing alter table drop column ?!?!?!

2001-09-21 Thread Gowey, Geoffrey
While looking through the code I found an already existing alter table drop column in src/backend/parser/gram.y. However, when I try to run it in psql it comes back with a not implemented. Was the left hand not talking to the right hand when this was coded or is there more to this? Geoff -

Re: [HACKERS] Further CVS errors

2001-09-21 Thread Oleg Bartunov
Marc, I'm back from vacation and also can't do cvs: pg@zen:~/cvs$ cvs -z3 checkout pgsql cannot create_adm_p /tmp/cvs-serv67095/pgsql Permission denied Oleg On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Ookay, this it now: > > > cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/projects/cvsroot lo

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble

2001-09-21 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> $ ping cvsup.postgresql.org > PING rs.postgresql.org: 64 byte packets > 64 bytes from 64.39.15.238: icmp_seq=0. time=57. ms > 64 bytes from 64.39.15.238: icmp_seq=1. time=70. ms > Perhaps there is a routing problem somewhere between you and 64.39.15.238? > That machine is not physically at hub (

Re: [HACKERS] psql and security

2001-09-21 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > concluding that this password is valid for all databases is trivial since > that's the default setup. No, I think you're missing the point --- we're concerned about reconnecting as a different user, not reconnecting to a different database. The issu

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble

2001-09-21 Thread Tom Lane
Thomas Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thanks for fixing it. Now of course the machine does not seem to be > visible. That was the case yesterday too; are these planned outages, is > it still bouncing up and down as it is configured, or is it flakey? Looks fine from here: $ ping cvsup.pos

Re: [HACKERS] psql and security

2001-09-21 Thread Tom Lane
Tatsuo Ishii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As you can see, psql reconnect as any user if the password is same as > foo. Of course this is due to the careless password setting, but I > think it's better to prompt ANY TIME the user tries to switch to > another user. Comments? Yeah, I agree. Looks

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble - ODBC blown away !?!?

2001-09-21 Thread Otto Hirr
5)-> head -20 !$ head -20 20010921.out Parsing supfile "cvsup_config" Connecting to cvsup.postgresql.org Connected to cvsup.postgresql.org Server software version: REL_16_1p3 Falling back to protocol version 16.1 Negotiating file attribute support Exchanging collection information Establis

Re: [HACKERS] psql and security

2001-09-21 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD
> > As you can see, psql reconnect as any user if the password is same as > > foo. Of course this is due to the careless password setting, but I > > think it's better to prompt ANY TIME the user tries to switch to > > another user. > > I'm not sure. A few users have voiced concerns about this b

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble

2001-09-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
just checked, and the machine has been up 14days now ... I can ssh into it from cvs.postgresql.org, and the last cvsup connection was about 5 minutes ago: Sep 21 09:10:42 server1 cvsupd[50149]: +3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fs1.olabinc.com) [SNAP_16_1e/16.1] Sep 21 09:11:53 server1 cvsupd[50149]: -3 [1

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble

2001-09-21 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> Okay, that is fixed ... for some reason, it didn't restart on last reboot, > have to watch that one ... Thanks for fixing it. Now of course the machine does not seem to be visible. That was the case yesterday too; are these planned outages, is it still bouncing up and down as it is configured,

Re: [HACKERS] psql and security

2001-09-21 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tatsuo Ishii writes: > As you can see, psql reconnect as any user if the password is same as > foo. Of course this is due to the careless password setting, but I > think it's better to prompt ANY TIME the user tries to switch to > another user. I'm not sure. A few users have voiced concerns abo

Re: [HACKERS] Major change to CVS effective immediately ...

2001-09-21 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
Thus spake Marc G. Fournier > > > can you ssh into cvs.postgresql.org? > > > > Yes! I could not do that before. Did you fix something? > > Nope :( Just weird. Oh well. All's well, etc. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain| Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a s

Re: [HACKERS] Major change to CVS effective immediately ...

2001-09-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > Thus spake Marc G. Fournier > > can you ssh into cvs.postgresql.org? > > Yes! I could not do that before. Did you fix something? Nope :( ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists a

Re: [HACKERS] Further CVS errors

2001-09-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Try it: > cd pgsql > cvs -q update -APd . ? .new.configure U configure U configure.in U register.txt U ChangeLogs/ChangeLog-7.1-7.1.1 U ChangeLogs/ChangeLog-7.1RC1-to-7.1RC2 U ChangeLogs/ChangeLog-7.1RC2-to-7.1RC3 U ChangeLogs/ChangeLog-7.1RC3-to-7.1rc4 U ChangeLogs/ChangeLog-7.1beta1-to-7.1beta

Re: [HACKERS] Further CVS errors

2001-09-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Ookay, this it now: > cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/projects/cvsroot login (Logging in to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) CVS password: > cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/projects/cvsroot co pgsql cvs server: Updating pgsql U pgsql/COPYRIGHT U pgsql/GNUmakefile.in U pgsql/HISTORY U pgsql/INSTALL U pgs

Re: [HACKERS] cvsup trouble

2001-09-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Okay, that is fixed ... for some reason, it didn't restart on last reboot, have to watch that one ... On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote: > I'm trying to update my cvs tree and am currently seeing the following: > > Parsing supfile "postgres.cvsup" > Connecting to cvsup.postgresql.or

Re: [HACKERS] Multibyte regression tests broken?

2001-09-21 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> Do the multibyte regression tests in src/test/mb currently pass for > other people? I'm getting failures on most of them, and what it looks > like to me is that the latest commits of the "expected" files contain > wrong results. You are correct. Will fix. -- Tatsuo Ishii

[HACKERS] psql and security

2001-09-21 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
Hi, This is not a real security issue but it seems not very appropreate behavior for me. $ psql -U foo test Password: XXX Welcome to psql, the PostgreSQL interactive terminal. Type: \copyright for distribution terms \h for help with SQL commands \? for help on internal slash com

Re: [HACKERS] Further CVS errors

2001-09-21 Thread Horak Daniel
I still have problem when doing cvs update on a fresh source tree. I did cvs checkout after the changes in cvs servers. $ cvs update cannot create_adm_p /tmp/cvs-serv24877/ChangeLogs Permission denied I think it is a problem on the CVS server. My client side is Cygwin 1.3.3 and cvs 1.11

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL funding/organization

2001-09-21 Thread Karel Zak
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 12:47:08PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Three things that are going to change now that GB is gone: > > 1. tom's wife will see more of him > 2. bruce's wife and kids will see more of him It seems that GB finish is their women conspiracy :-) Karel

Re: [HACKERS] slow UNIONing

2001-09-21 Thread Kovacs Zoltan
> > For me it seems to be slow due to the sorting. Is this right? > > Is this normal at all? Is it possible to make it faster? > > If you know, that your result does not produce duplicates > (which are filtered away with "union") you can use a > "union all" which should be substantially faster,

Re: [HACKERS] Multibyte regression tests broken?

2001-09-21 Thread Karel Zak
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 09:55:56PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Do the multibyte regression tests in src/test/mb currently pass for > other people? I'm getting failures on most of them, and what it looks > like to me is that the latest commits of the "expected" files contain > wrong results. $ ./mbr