Hello out there
does any of the existing QL emulators support a QL network link between PC
and QL? - I do not mean by Serial port (as I know QPC2 can do this) but by
the "QL network" connection - probably to a pair of data/ground pins on the
PC's parallel port?
Regards
Michael
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Michael Berger wrote:
> does any of the existing QL emulators support a QL network link between PC
> and QL? - I do not mean by Serial port (as I know QPC2 can do this) but by
> the "QL network" connection - probably to a pair of data/ground pins on the
> PC's parallel port?
No, I was experimentin
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Darren Branagh wrote:
> There is the QXL - a hardware QL emulator - Which has QL network ports on
> the back. I often used mine between my QXL/PC and black box QL, mind you
> that was before QPC and SERNET :-))
Yes, and IIRC it depended on the QXL's speed, if a faster processor was
fitted it upset
Hi Dilwyn,
I made a cable and connect up QPC2, Q60, QXL, QL, Atari ST QL
All worked very well, except the serial network speed is limited to the slowest
machine, in the the above chage the QL.
But QPC2 to Q60 Sernets very easily at 115600 baud giving 11.56K transfer.
The only failure I had wa
Hello out there,
is sernet for the QL free or does it cost money? As far as I understand the
matter it is already built into the OS of QPC2, but I would need a software
counterpart for the Sinclair black box?
So far I only found webpages containing discussions on sernet but not a
download page :-(
> I made a cable and connect up QPC2, Q60, QXL, QL, Atari ST QL
>
> All worked very well, except the serial network speed is limited to the
slowest machine, in the the above chage the QL.
I expected that.
Which version of Sernet did you use to get the 'circular' system working.
That's one reason w
Michael Berger wrote:
> is sernet for the QL free or does it cost money? As far as I understand the
> matter it is already built into the OS of QPC2, but I would need a software
> counterpart for the Sinclair black box?
No, it's supplied separately on the SMSQ/E (or QPC) disc. And normally
it does
> File transfer via floppy disk is my current alternative, but looks like that
> is not too reliable - maybe due to the fact that I do not have 'real' 3.5"
> DD disks but rather HD disks formatted as DD. The QL's disk drive apparently
> does not have problems with them but QPC2 doesn't recognize DD
Dilwyn,
If only 2 machines or nodes are on the Sernet, then a standard null modem leas will
do. Try Maplins or any electronics store or I can supply them.
With more than 2 nodes on the serial network, then a special cable or arrangement must
be made. As you have suggested, the Sernet is a circ
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> No, it's supplied separately on the SMSQ/E (or QPC) disc. And
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No, it's supplied separately on the SMSQ
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> michael
>
> there is a very good manual in the above me
Michael Berger schrieb:
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michael
there is a very good manual in
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l Berger schrieb:
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> > From: "wolfgang mühlegger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 3:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL Network link QL <--> PC possible?
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> EXEC MENUCONFIG
>
> that should help
that explains a lo
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> IIRC sernet
> only has v.1 config blocks (I
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> on QL using SER2
Hi Derek,
if I interpret that correctly you do h
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Phoebus R. Dokos (F??ß?? ?. ?t) wrote:
> Not 100% true. If you rename under DOS Menuconfig to say Menuconf.EXn
> (where n is the appropriate no for the dataspace required (see SMSQ/e
> manual) you can execute Menuconfig from a dos disk (or a DOS device under
> QPC2) even if the header is lost.
Michael Berger wrote:
> Completely agree. Having the configuration information within the executable
> file itself is a messy and error prone thing.
Why's that? What's error prone about this? And once you're used to
this, it's actually a piece of cake. Level 2 is especially nice
because it can upd
Michael Berger wrote:
> that explains a lot! ... of course I could not execute MenuConfig ...
> because I unzipped it under Windows! So QDOS has no chance to recognize it
> as an executable. That is BTW one of my major problems at the moment: I do
> not yet have a working UNZIP prog under QDOS. Wh
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> There's a standard info-zip version available in the differe
Michael Berger wrote:
> InfoUnZip 5.40 I guess? The only problem with that is although it is fairly
> verbose (fairly QL untypically b.t.w.) but to me it looks like it is not
> really adapted to QDOS conversions ... ie what I miss is a QDOS example how
> to unzip an archive from command line
ex un
> Well, it's absolutely not *self* modifying. It's done in a precisely
> defined way by another application and not during runtime, therefore
> all the rules that say "modifying code is bad" don't apply. And as the
> concept of a "working directory" or a "current directory" is alien to
> the QL it'
Marcel Kilgus wrote:
> Michael Berger wrote:
> > Completely agree. Having the configuration information within the
> > executable file itself is a messy and error prone thing.
>
> Why's that? What's error prone about this? And once you're used to
> this, it's actually a piece of cake. Level 2 is
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On QPC2 using SER2
10 BAUD 2,9600
20 LRESPR "SERNET_SER2_REXT&quo
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> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:06 PM
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>
>
> On QPC2 using SER2
>
> 10 BAUD 2,9600
> 20 LRESPR "SERNET_SER2_REXT"
> 30 SNET 1
> 40 SERNET : REMark Ser
> > that explains a lot! ... of course I could not execute MenuConfig ...
> > because I unzipped it under Windows! So QDOS has no chance to recognize
it
> > as an executable. That is BTW one of my major problems at the moment: I
do
> > not yet have a working UNZIP prog under QDOS. Which prg / vers
> > IIRC sernet
> > only has v.1 config blocks (I am completely against the idea of config
> > blocks myself... and all self modifying executables for that manner...
btw
> > :-) )
>
> Completely agree. Having the configuration information within the
executable
> file itself is a messy and error pr
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From: "Derek Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> The problem maybe the cable, as the SERNET files I sent you all wo
> > The problem maybe the cable, as the SERNET files I sent you all work on
my
> systems.
> >
> > Email the details of your cable to me and I will try and sort out the
> problem.
>
> Hello Derek,
>
> I guess you got it to the point:
> As far as I could determine using some primitive measurement (I
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> Once someone gets QL to other computer s
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 21:51:03 +0200, Michael Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The problem is soo complex, it is not easy making the right conclusions
:-(
Not really up to 2400 is the maximum reliable you can get on a real QL
if you do not have Hermes or superHermes.
I'd say your cable i
Hi,
9600 Baud is the maximum reliable data rate I have had betweenn Q60 and QL with
SuperHermes and MInerva 1.97 fitted.
Superhermes SER3 device driver does not work with Sernet as the device driver does not
allow SRX and STX extensions to the port.
I suppose if the source to the Super Herme
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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 at 11:54:21, Tony Firshman wrote:
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PC side
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QL side (SER2 port, british version)
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the cable connects
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 at 15:38:59, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:
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>
>> After all I guess the simplest workaround for me would be to get a cable
>> that works with the QL's ser1 port - as I picked up from the discussion
>> several people use sernet but noone gave a step-by step d
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