Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-21 Thread Ron Mc
Steve is right that BBQ originated as way to make cheap cuts of meat palatable for farm hands and migrant workers. In Texas, it was German butchers smoking brisket for the migrant field hands. The classic Texas BBQ market is in fact a meat market selling prime cuts, whole fresh vegetables and

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-21 Thread Edwin W
You say "of course in Carolina it's mustard." I would say that Mustard sauce is popular in the Columbia, SC, area, but the dominant theme in the Carolinas is pulled pork with a vinegar-based sauce. My family is from the Pee Dee region of SC, and that's what we tend to. Edwin On Thursday, Novem

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-21 Thread Ron Mc
my cousin used to be the head graphic artist for the Memphis newspaper and their publishing concern. He won in the Memphis competition a couple of times. But around here, pulled pork is carnitas en chile rojo, and I much prefer it that way. On Friday, November 21, 2014 7:23:30 AM UTC-6, asc

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-21 Thread ascpgh
Really come to love the BBQ I was lucky to enjoy when I lived and went to school in Arkansas, sort of crossroads between a lot of the mentioned styles so far. Memphis was always a destination in the spring for the Memphis in May BBQ competition. The local place I always visit is Charlie Vergo'

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Mc
Luling City Market and Smittys Market in Lockhart seem to polarize people about which is The best - they're both great, but I'm a Smitty's fan, partly because I used to eat there when they didn't offer plastic silverware - there was a pullpit with a butcher knife on a chain and if you didn't br

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Eric Platt
Okay, I found Steve's comment extremely funny. Mainly as my wife has worked for USDA for 25+ years. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote: > > > But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare *sub-

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Goshen Peter
That is a nice smoker Ron. I have the big boy webber with smoker box attached inside, not as much capacity as you but ribs out of mine after 7 hours are amazing. We are lucky to have a few smokehouses in the summer locally, one in riding distance I went to all to often this summer, haha. On Nov 20,

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Chris Chen
Llano is okay, Cooper's is there, the brisket is pretty good. But for real Central Texas BBQ my heart rests in Lockhart, in Smitty's Market. There's a family feud there, but I love walking back to the pit at Smitty's. Top notch. I left Texas in 1999 but maan if you're driving the Austin-Bergs

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Jim Bronson
I've only spit watermelon seeds in Luling. What bbq places are good there? I haven't been out to Llano since the 90s. My first wife had family in Brady, so we used to go through Llano a few times a year. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > Between Lockhart, Luling and Llano, we h

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Jim Bronson
I like to go to Gates in KC and get a "pound an" in other words a sandwich with 1.5 lbs of brisket on it, and also some burnt ends and baked beans. KC is hickory sauce BBQ, whereas down here in Texas it's vinegar and mesquite. Of course in Carolina it's mustard, and BBQ is pork. Lockhart is all

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Chris Chen
mm On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > Between Lockhart, Luling and Llano, we have the 5 best BBQ stop on the > planet, so I don't have to go very far. > Here's a little of my own, venison flanks and backstrap > >

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Mc
Between Lockhart, Luling and Llano, we have the 5 best BBQ stop on the planet, so I don't have to go very far. Here's a little of my own, venison flanks and backstrap

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote: But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare *sub-standard* cuts of meat and keep them moist. Are you talking about USDA quality and yield grades below "Standard", i.e., Commercial grade and Utility, Cutter and Canner grade? http://www.m

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Tim Gavin
No no no. Kansas City style is decent; at least it's proper "BBQ". Meaning, it's slow smoked. I had some great BBQ at Arthur Bryant's and Oklahoma Joe's on my last trip to KC. I also love west Texas spicy BBQ brisket, Carolina Gold, tart Virginia style, smoky Alabama style, Tenessee dry rub, et

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Mc
Last time I was in Kansas, they tried to feed me Mexican food. I go south to eat Mexican food. On Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:57:27 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: > > Oh no Ron, lets keep it friendly and agree that Kansas style is the worst > at least? > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Ron Mc

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Goshen Peter
Oh no Ron, lets keep it friendly and agree that Kansas style is the worst at least? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > We can really get a fight started if we bring on BBQ. > This is Smitty's Market in Lockhart. > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Mc
We can really get a fight started if we bring on BBQ. This is Smitty's Market in Lockhart. Sauce? We dun need no sauce But

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Goshen Peter
Hell when I lived in South Carolina they spoke of those uppity damn Yankees in Charlotte and in most of NC, haha. I really miss shrimp and grits, steampots, fresh steamed crawfish and of course mustard bbq, the best hands down. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Tim Gavin wrote: > The Mason-Dixon

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Tim Gavin
The Mason-Dixon line, aka the Waffle House line. No Waffle Houses north of the M-D line. I'm a Yankee from Iowa, but I prefer Waffle House to IHOP. Mmmm, pecan waffles... I'm not the first to make this observation. http://www.theonion.com/articles/masondixon-line-renamed-ihopwaffle-house-line,96

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Mc
It's a Texas thing - it's jokes - Canada is up by Dalhart, Ohio is a northern county. After all, it's 900 miles to get across Texas, either N-S or E-W. On Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:11:53 AM UTC-6, Eunice Chang wrote: > > Some believe the North/South designations are designated by Mason-Di

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Eunice Chang
Some believe the North/South designations are designated by Mason-Dixon line. As in "there's no good sweet tea or grits" above the mason-dixon line. Maryland is just right below the mason-dixon line, and therefore "southern." In reality, it doesn't matter as all of 50 states (even Hawaii) were be

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Mc
Maryland is up by Texarkana - we don'/t consider that south. We've had a week of chill, with lows into the 20s. I managed to get a window Sunday morning for a 30-mi ride. It was breaking 50 but the 95% humidity was fairly penetrating (still better than summer here). Met a guy with a Rivende

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread lungimsam
Is Maryland a northern or southern state? I think they were with the Union during the civil war. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-19 Thread Mike S
And I link to YouTube videos with abandon . It's Natalie Merchant doing a nice job with that, live. On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:15:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > "And a strange dust lands on your hands" > > On Tuesday, November 18,

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-19 Thread Mike S
Big ups for the Morrissey reference! On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:15:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > "And a strange dust lands on your hands" > > On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:11:27 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: >> >> I think that's the fallout. >> >> On Tuesday, November 18, 2014

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-19 Thread David Hays
Did manage to get a banana run in on Univega but had trouble keep ing the bike in a straight line and upright and the Big Apples kept finding ice underneath and moving sideways 6" unexpectedly. David Hays Kenmore, New York Ridgeway, Ontario

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-19 Thread Pondero
To the northern folk out there...keep up the great work of getting out there in in the weather and document with photos, its quite entertaining. Oh yeah, please don't let that frigid air spill across state boundaries. Thanks. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
Whatever it takes to keep your fAtlantis out there where it belongs. That bike is BUTCH On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:39:19 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Frigid? That looks absolutely perfect! 15C can't be beat, in my opinion. > I'd way rather go for a cool ride followed with camping in

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-19 Thread Mark Reimer
Frigid? That looks absolutely perfect! 15C can't be beat, in my opinion. I'd way rather go for a cool ride followed with camping in pants and flannel shirts than sweat it out in the summer heat. Enjoy! On my side of things, I just picked up a -30C sleeping bag yesterday... stay tuned for some VERY

Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread cyclotourist
Looks like it was an absolutely frigid weekend: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15622928030/in/set-72157647014127884 On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:25 PM, dougP wrote: > Looks like a properly shod Atlantis can handle it. > > David, don't you dare post a link to photos from last weekend. W

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread Mobile Bill
Looks like Wednesday morning it will be about 10 to 15 degrees colder on the Gulf Coast than it is in Anchorage. Wish y'all could keep it where it belongs. On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:51:34 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Cancellin' shows in a neighborhood near you! On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:46:21 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > "And a strange dust lands on your hands" > > I think I detect an epic MOZ-drop there. Let's see if I can get the next > line: > > "and on your face, on your fay-hay-hace..." > > B

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
"And a strange dust lands on your hands" I think I detect an epic MOZ-drop there. Let's see if I can get the next line: "and on your face, on your fay-hay-hace..." Bill "share some grease tea with me" Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:15:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread dougP
Looks like a properly shod Atlantis can handle it. David, don't you dare post a link to photos from last weekend. We'll get kicked off the list :-). dougP On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern f

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread Edwin W
I may be in the south, but today I could not, I say could not get my rear brake to work on my Yuba as I was biking my kids to school. I got home and fiddled around with it and aha! the brake cable had accumulated a bit of water and had frozen. That is not supposed to happen down here. Cold snap

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
What's really concerning is it vaporizes when you breathe it in. Who knows *what* that does to us? No one says anything about it, so it must be pretty bad! Increased nasal discharge is only the beginning of the horrible effects, I'll warrant. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You receiv

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
"And a strange dust lands on your hands" On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:11:27 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: > > I think that's the fallout. > > On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:00:41 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Why is your sand that light color? >> >> On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:5

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread Ron Mc
I think that's the fallout. On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:00:41 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > Why is your sand that light color? > > On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote: >> >> Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk feel >

[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Why is your sand that light color? On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk feel > too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until we get > used to the change. It's going to b