Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Robert Maxwell
A] On Behalf Of Cheryl Tarsala Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 4:15 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry Actually, don't the definitions of Editor and Editor of an Compilation in RDA I.3.1 allow a cataloger the option to decide that editing or compilat

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Kevin M Randall
Cheryl Tarsala wrote: > Actually, don't the definitions of Editor and Editor of an Compilation in > RDA I.3.1 allow a cataloger the option to decide that editing or > compilation rises to the level of authorship of a new work? > > editor ... "For major revisions, adaptations, etc., that substant

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Cheryl Tarsala
Actually, don't the definitions of Editor and Editor of an Compilation  in RDA I.3.1 allow a cataloger the option to decide that editing or compilation rises to the level of authorship of a new work?editor ... "For major revisions, adaptations, etc., that substantially change the nature and content

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Robert Maxwell
lf Of Jack Wu Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 1:00 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry Thanks Adam for confirming this exception. Jack >>> "Adam L. Schiff" >>> mailto:asch...@u.washington.edu>> 10/8/2012 2:43 >>&g

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Jack Wu
Thanks Adam for confirming this exception. Jack >>> "Adam L. Schiff" 10/8/2012 2:43 PM >>> Yes, the authorized access point for motion pictures and other moving image works is an exception and is constructed of the title only. Serials are not always an exception. If a creator is responsibl

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Yes, the authorized access point for motion pictures and other moving image works is an exception and is constructed of the title only. Serials are not always an exception. If a creator is responsible for all issues of a serial, it would be named using the creator combined with the title. Th

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Gbala, Helen
GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry Because the rule of three from AACR2 is gone, it doesn't matter how many creators there are for a work. In RDA the authorized access point for a work is the combination of the first named or prominently named creator and the preferred title fo

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Jack Wu
Yes, I do remember now. This is a change on account of the rule of three. In RDA is there an exception or another rule that governs the entry under title for video recordings, serials... Thanks, Jack Jack Wu Franciscan University of Steubenville >>> "Adam L. Schiff" 10/8/2012 1:27 PM >>> B

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Because the rule of three from AACR2 is gone, it doesn't matter how many creators there are for a work. In RDA the authorized access point for a work is the combination of the first named or prominently named creator and the preferred title for the work. Hence: AACR2 245 00 $a Title Z / $c

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Cary Isley
We should distinguish between the *concept *of main entry, which denotes the idea of primary responsibility for a work and thus serves to link authors to their works (and which, of course, need not be called "main entry"), and the different way(s) in which the concept has been implemented and/or re

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread jelrod
On 2012-10-08 00:38, Keith Trickey wrote: Point of order! "Main entry" was adopted by AACR2 - Whatever term is used. scholars have been citing sources by author/title for centuries. I begain typing "main entry" at the top of a unit card since the 1940s. If we wish to :play welll with others",

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Jack Wu
Whether main entry idea has passed its time I leave for others more knowledgeable to debate on. In the 1960s one of my library school teachers proposed we just sidestep this whole issue of authorship and make title the main entry. As far as I can remember, in the case of diffused authorship, in

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread James Weinheimer
On 08/10/2012 09:38, Keith Trickey wrote: > Point of order! "Main entry" was adopted by AACR2 - Eric Hunter argued > against it at a JSC meeting in the 1970s in York and was timed out. It > goes back to catalogue card days - when full bibliographic data was > entered on the "main entry card" and t

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
Am 08.10.2012 09:38, schrieb Keith Trickey: > > The cataloguer's arrogance is part of the "main entry" concept. The > searcher approaches with catalogue with whatever information they > have - could be author or title or words from title etc. For the > searcher the information they use to access t

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-08 Thread Keith Trickey
___ From: Amanda Xu To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Sent: Sunday, 7 October 2012, 20:14 Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry Main entry is like a collar of your shirt.  By pulling the collar, the whole shirt can be neatly pulled out of a pile from your laundry baske

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-07 Thread jelrod
On 2012-10-07 12:14, Amanda Xu wrote: In general, editors are considered as compiler. His or her role in the creation of the intellectual content is compilation, not original one. That's why title is considered more important than other controlled access points of a bib. Here I think we libr

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-07 Thread Amanda Xu
Main entry is like a collar of your shirt. By pulling the collar, the whole shirt can be neatly pulled out of a pile from your laundry basket with sleeves and body part of the shirt lined neatly on each side. It's an AACR2 concept. Its creation is the intellectual work of Cataloger's judgem

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-05 Thread Jack Wu
So in this regard it's exactly like AACR2?? Somehow while the short explanation given here is clear, I must admit what the RDA says is confusing to me. Jack >>> "Adam L. Schiff" 10/4/2012 5:57 PM >>> Editors are not considered creators in RDA, nor are they considered other persons, families,

Re: [RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-04 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Editors are not considered creators in RDA, nor are they considered other persons, families, or corporate bodies associated with the work, so they cannot be tagged in 1XX. RDA 20.2 says: A contributor is a person, family, or corporate body contributing to the realization of a work through an

[RDA-L] Editor as main entry

2012-10-04 Thread Ian Fairclough
Dear RDA-L readers, Although RDA to my knowledge makes no mention of the concept of main entry, discussion has taken place whether a heading for an editor might be tagged 100, effectively designating that heading as main entry. Among other concerns, cuttering is affected.  CSM G 53 Determining