Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-18 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Great news! I guess we can finally have a "make donwload" target which only downloads standard packages now. And maybe a simple way to cleanup the upstream directory, see #16327. On Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 8:30:04 AM UTC+2, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > > We were not talking about a catalog, but an ad

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-17 Thread Julien Puydt
Hi, Le 12/05/2015 17:19, Thierry a écrit : On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 07:19:07AM -0700, Volker Braun wrote: IMHO: * The package type (standard/optional/experimental) should be in a file inside the package directory +1. Actually, i have a prototype of this for the purpose of checking to the upst

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-16 Thread Nathann Cohen
> We were not talking about a catalog, but an additional file for each > package, located in build/pkgs/$package/, which just contains > "standard", "optional", "experimental" or probably "base", say. Done in #18431 (needs review) http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18431 Nathann -- You received t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thursday, 14 May 2015 07:10:10 UTC+1, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > Hello, > > > Really?! Are you saying that looking at standard/*/ is more inconvenient > > than looking at */* and checking that a file there says standard (or > have a > > file > > named standard) ? > > It may not be more con

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-13 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello, > Really?! Are you saying that looking at standard/*/ is more inconvenient > than looking at */* and checking that a file there says standard (or have a > file > named standard) ? It may not be more convenient indeed if you only want to remember the 'status' (standard/optional/experimental

[sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-13 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, 13 May 2015 22:26:25 UTC+1, leif wrote: > > Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:55:16 UTC+1, leif wrote: > > > > Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:55:17 UTC+1, leif wrote: > > > > > > Volker Braun wrote: > > >

[sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-13 Thread leif
Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:55:16 UTC+1, leif wrote: > > Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:55:17 UTC+1, leif wrote: > > > > Volker Braun wrote: > > > IMHO: > > > > > > * The package type (standard/optional/ex

[sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-13 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:55:16 UTC+1, leif wrote: > > Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:55:17 UTC+1, leif wrote: > > > > Volker Braun wrote: > > > IMHO: > > > > > > * The package type (standard/optional/experimental) should be in a > > file > >

[sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-13 Thread leif
Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:55:17 UTC+1, leif wrote: > > Volker Braun wrote: > > IMHO: > > > > * The package type (standard/optional/experimental) should be in a > file > > inside the package directory > > hmm... > > rather, how about SAGEROOT/bui

[sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-13 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:55:17 UTC+1, leif wrote: > > Volker Braun wrote: > > IMHO: > > > > * The package type (standard/optional/experimental) should be in a file > > inside the package directory > hmm... rather, how about SAGEROOT/build/pkg/standard/ , SAGEROOT/build/pkg/optional/, e

[sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-13 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote: > IMHO: > > * The package type (standard/optional/experimental) should be in a file > inside the package directory Yes. Suggestions? checksums.ini and package-version.txt don't seem appropriate to add it there (nor of course SPKG.txt), so we'd need a new file I think. It wo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread Thierry
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 08:36:24PM +0200, leif wrote: [...] > "Old-style" spkgs have their raison d'ętre (namely, they're > self-contained); in the long run, we may deprecate them, but we should > at least keep support for installing such (e.g. ones offered elsewhere). Of course, since this is th

[sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread leif
Volker Braun wrote: > libm4ri and libm4rie are two different libraries... Sure. But their "new-style" names are "m4ri" and "m4rie", hence 'sage --standard' lists the former ones as "not installed" (and doesn't mention the latter ones because they're not in 'spkg/standard/' on the servers). -lei

[sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread Volker Braun
libm4ri and libm4rie are two different libraries... On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 8:36:38 PM UTC+2, leif wrote: > > Thierry wrote: > > [snip] > > > > The problem with pages under http://www.sagemath.org/packages is that > > they are not up-to-date and there is a conflict with the old-style >

[sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread leif
Thierry wrote: > [snip] > > The problem with pages under http://www.sagemath.org/packages is that > they are not up-to-date and there is a conflict with the old-style > versions and the new-style one, for example, if you type :: > > sage -standard > > it relies on the page http://www.sagema

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 07:19:07AM -0700, Volker Braun wrote: > IMHO: > > * The package type (standard/optional/experimental) should be in a file > inside the package directory +1. Actually, i have a prototype of this for the purpose of checking to the upstream website if a newerver version

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread Volker Braun
IMHO: * The package type (standard/optional/experimental) should be in a file inside the package directory * The build system should check that it builds only standard packages * Old-style spkgs shouldn't be mashed together with new-style packages, that is super confusing if you have both. * Ins

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread Nathann Cohen
> That's perhaps a bit problematic at the moment; also, at least some > tests may require internet access (although we could tag them > accordingly). Should we document/test their versions as well? Technically, the list of standard packages is available in Sage directly (build/install). Maybe we

[sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread leif
Nathann Cohen wrote: >> There's also this dead(?) wiki page: >> >> http://wiki.sagemath.org/standard_packages_available_for_SAGE >> >> And this one I kept updating for a while (quite some time ago): >> >> http://wiki.sagemath.org/Sage_Spkg_Tracking > > Fine. Seems to confirm that we need something

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread Nathann Cohen
Yo ! > There's also this dead(?) wiki page: > > http://wiki.sagemath.org/standard_packages_available_for_SAGE > > And this one I kept updating for a while (quite some time ago): > > http://wiki.sagemath.org/Sage_Spkg_Tracking Fine. Seems to confirm that we need something more reliable somewhere.

[sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-12 Thread leif
Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I am trying to 'clean' a bit some other part of Sage's documentation. > I found that page, which lists 'some of' the programs shipped in Sage: > > http://www.sagemath.org/doc/installation/introduction.html > > It is not very clearly presented,