Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
That seems also like very good sense, Thanks ! BR/pj Sensitivity: Internal -Original Message- From: Dale R. Worley Sent: den 23 januari 2020 04:21 To: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Dale R. Worley
"Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)" writes: > What do you think about incrementing the version in SDP o-line, but > not changing anything else in SDP, should such a behavior be accepted > or should it be rejected ? There are two similar but distinctly different questions that you might be a

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
from PBX >> SDP PDU >> v=0 >> o=- 195986 2 IN IP4 10.81.253.92 >> s=RFC3264OfferAnswerExchange >> c=IN IP4 10.81.253.92 >> b=CT:1000 >> t=0 0 >> m=audio 23812 RTP/AVP 8 110 >> c=IN IP4 10.81.253.92 >> a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000 >> a=rtpmap:1

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
s very good sense ! > > Thanks ! > > BR/pj > > > Sensitivity: Internal > > -Original Message- > From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu > On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat > Sent: den 22 januari 2020 16:25 > To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Paul Kyzivat
On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat Sent: den 22 januari 2020 16:25 To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version Sorry, but I'm too lazy to compare those two messages byte by byte to see if they are identical other than the version number. I don't underst

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
ip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version Sorry, but I'm too lazy to compare those two messages byte by byte to see if they are identical other than the version number. I don't understand the point of your question. Are you looking for an excuse

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
ntors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version Hi, SIP entities (client/server) checks SDP version to determine whether there is any change in SDP from previously received SDP. If the version is changed then they go on to parse the entire SDP to determine the change. Based on that SIP e

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Paul Kyzivat
MA/8000 a=rtpmap:110 telephone-event/8000 a=fmtp:110 0-15 a=sendrecv a=ptime:20 BR/pj From: Rohit Jain Sent: den 22 januari 2020 12:36 To: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version Hi, SIP entities (client

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
a=sendrecv a=ptime:20 BR/pj From: Rohit Jain Sent: den 22 januari 2020 12:36 To: Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB) Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version Hi, SIP entities (client/server) checks SDP version to determine whether there is

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Rohit Jain
Hi, SIP entities (client/server) checks SDP version to determine whether there is any change in SDP from previously received SDP. If the version is changed then they go on to parse the entire SDP to determine the change. Based on that SIP entity can initiate media processing(more relevant in case

[Sip-implementors] SDP version

2020-01-22 Thread Sundbaum Per-Johan (Telenor Sverige AB)
Hi ! What do you think about incrementing the version in SDP o-line, but not changing anything else in SDP, should such a behavior be accepted or should it be rejected ? RFC 4028 states that such behavior at least should be avoided, but is that true also for UA without support for timer ? " RFC

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Paul Kyzivat
I just noticed this thread. So I'm jumping in where it seems to make sense. Note that 3261 and friends are *not* very clear about this. RFC6337 tried to clarify the original intent, without being normative. (In retrospect it would probably have been better to make a normative update.) There we

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Brett Tate
> I agree with you but does not. > > Basically what they are saying is this: If SDP version number > is incremented then this counts as an update/new offer period. They can call it whatever they want. RFC 3261 says that the SDP must be ignored (i.e. it is not an updated answer or new offer). Ho

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Roger Wiklund
I agree with you but Nokia does not. Basically what they are saying is this: If SDP version number is incremented then this counts as an update/new offer period. The problem is I can't find an RFC stating "You MUST NOT increment version number if no change is made to the SDP" Even Paul Kyzviat i

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Brett Tate
> The violation is: > > "When a reliable provisional response contains a session description, and > is > the first to do so, then that session description is the answer to the > offer > in the INVITE request. The answer cannot be updated, and a new offer > cannot > be sent in a subsequent reliabl

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Roger Wiklund
hus it shouldn't cause the call to be released. With that >>> > said, some devices have configuration options to violate that >>> > statement and treat as an updated answer SDP (or a new offer SDP). >>> > >>> > RFC 3261 section 13.2.1: "Th

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Roger Wiklund
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:29 PM >> To: Brett Tate >> Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu >> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change >> in >> early dialog >> >> Hi >> >> Correct I forgot to

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Brett Tate
correctly, RFC 6337 might even recommend not including an SDP in that situation. > -Original Message- > From: Roger Wiklund [mailto:roger.wikl...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:29 PM > To: Brett Tate > Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu > Subje

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Roger Wiklund
t; implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Wiklund >> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 1:47 PM >> To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu >> Subject: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in > early >> dialog >> >

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Brett Tate
TE." More inline. > -Original Message- > From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:sip- > implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Wiklund > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 1:47 PM > To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.ed

[Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Roger Wiklund
Hi list I'm seeing the following behavior from an Aastra 400 PBX. Flow below is ITSP to PBX INVITE> <100Trying <183 w/SDP PRACK> <200OK (PRACK) <180 w/SDP >PRACK <200OK (PRACK) <200OK (INVITE)w/SDP ACK> BYE> <200OK (BYE) Each time the PBX sends an SDP, the version number is incremented even tho