Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return GPS points in descending order?

2008-03-28 Thread 80n
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder) < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frederik Ramm wrote: > >Sent: 28 March 2008 5:10 PM > >To: Raphael Mack > >Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return GPS points

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return GPS points in descending order?

2008-03-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > > Does any application *not* read all pages returned? > > Well, in Potlatch the "download points in current area" is the primary > method of reading tracklogs (as - mercifully - it doesn't have any > access to your local file system) "Whoooa! Potlatch has just ruined my personal files!

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > I should point out that you can't synchronize an audio track to a GPS > track without the exact timing information. > > But I'm confused now - if I look at GPS tracks on the third tab of the > OSM home page, what I see is GPX style HTML with exact timestamps and > ordered tracks. So if

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread David Earl
On 28/03/2008 18:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > >> | I believe that they are sorted by timestamp. What they aren't sorted >> | by is the track they came from so you might get points jumbled up from >> | different tracks. >> | >> | The API deliberately tries to expose limited information about th

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return GPS points in descending order?

2008-03-28 Thread Karl Newman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder) < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frederik Ramm wrote: > >Sent: 28 March 2008 5:10 PM > >To: Raphael Mack > >Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return GPS points in descending order?

2008-03-28 Thread bvh
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 05:37:19PM -, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: > And since its rare for two people to have the same time period for the same > area by chance it generally works (just back to front). But of course that > cant be guaranteed, especially if the area is large. Or when ther

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > | I believe that they are sorted by timestamp. What they aren't sorted > | by is the track they came from so you might get points jumbled up from > | different tracks. > | > | The API deliberately tries to expose limited information about the > | points for privacy reasons as some points may

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return GPS points in descending order?

2008-03-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Does any application *not* read all pages returned? Well, in Potlatch the "download points in current area" is the primary method of reading tracklogs (as - mercifully - it doesn't have any access to your local file system), so yes, it does return only the most recent

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Hughes wrote: | In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | |> On 28/03/2008 16:50, Raphael Mack wrote: |>> Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb Steve Hill: |>>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Steve Hill wrote: |> Are

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return GPS points in descending order?

2008-03-28 Thread Raphael Mack
Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > Hi, > > > mh, I guess this cannot be fixed in josm, since the the server returns > > the stored gps points in arbitrary order. I would even suggest not to > > draw any direction arrows for gps data from the server. > > But they can't be too arbitra

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return GPS points in descending order?

2008-03-28 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Frederik Ramm wrote: >Sent: 28 March 2008 5:10 PM >To: Raphael Mack >Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return GPS points in >descending order? > >Hi, > >> mh, I guess this cannot be fixed in josm, since the the server ret

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return GPS points in descending order?

2008-03-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, >> ... and the "DESC" nicely explains the observation that all arrows are >> in the wrong direction! I wonder why it is there. > > Because you want the most recent ones first? Does any application *not* read all pages returned? Bye Frederik ___ t

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return GPS points in descending order?

2008-03-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: > ... and the "DESC" nicely explains the observation that all arrows are > in the wrong direction! I wonder why it is there. Because you want the most recent ones first? cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28/03/2008 17:02, Tom Hughes wrote: > > > I believe that they are sorted by timestamp. What they aren't sorted > > by is the track they came from so you might get points jumbled up from > > different tracks. > > B

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread David Earl
On 28/03/2008 17:02, Tom Hughes wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 28/03/2008 16:50, Raphael Mack wrote: >>> Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb Steve Hill: On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Steve Hill wrote: >> Are you saying every single a

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update / why does API return GPS points in descending order?

2008-03-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > mh, I guess this cannot be fixed in josm, since the the server returns the > stored gps points in arbitrary order. I would even suggest not to draw any > direction arrows for gps data from the server. But they can't be too arbitrary since drawing lines in between the points would reveal

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28/03/2008 16:50, Raphael Mack wrote: > > Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb Steve Hill: > >> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Steve Hill wrote: > Are you saying every single arrow points the wrong way? Because that >

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread David Earl
On 28/03/2008 16:50, Raphael Mack wrote: > Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb Steve Hill: >> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Steve Hill wrote: Are you saying every single arrow points the wrong way? Because that would be an easy fix to make ;-) >>> Yes, seems to be the case :) >> To complicate things

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Raphael Mack
Am Freitag, 28. März 2008 schrieb Steve Hill: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Steve Hill wrote: > >> Are you saying every single arrow points the wrong way? Because that > >> would be an easy fix to make ;-) > > > > Yes, seems to be the case :) > > To complicate things more, the direction arrows on data imp

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Cartinus
On Friday 28 March 2008 00:37:09 Frederik Ramm wrote: > * It is now possible to have arrows on the lines connecting GPS > points (draw.rawgps.direction=true), and you can also limit the > length of these GPS connection lines (draw.rawgps.max-line-length=x, > in metres), for those cases where

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Steve Hill
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Steve Hill wrote: >> Are you saying every single arrow points the wrong way? Because that would be >> an easy fix to make ;-) > > Yes, seems to be the case :) To complicate things more, the direction arrows on data imported from a local GPX file are the right way around, so

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Steve Hill
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Are you saying every single arrow points the wrong way? Because that would be > an easy fix to make ;-) Yes, seems to be the case :) > This happens when lines of length 0 are drawn. I suspect that those tracks > that suffer from the "east arrows" hav

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > They are pointing the wrong way - the blue motorway loop in the > screen shot is traversed in the anticlockwise direction, but the > arrows on the GPS track are showing it to be clockwise (seems to be > the case for all the GPS tracks, so this isn't just an odd data set). Are you sayi

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Steve Hill
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote: > * It is now possible to have arrows on the lines connecting GPS > points (draw.rawgps.direction=true), I'm seeing a couple of slightly odd things with the GPS direction arrows: (screenshot) http://www.nexusuk.org/~steve/josm-gpsarrows.png They

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Steve Hill
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I'll investigate that. However with data retrieved from the server, you don't > even get the structure, you just get a ton of individual points and > have no chance of finding out whether they belong to the same segment or not! Ouch - I hadn't realis

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Steve Hill wrote: > The GPX files consist of elements (tracks), with each track > containing one or more element (track segment). JOSM seemed to > be joining the end of a to the start of the next > rather than leaving them unconnected. The elements themselves are > handled correctly

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-28 Thread Steve Hill
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote: > and you can also limit the > length of these GPS connection lines (draw.rawgps.max-line-length=x, > in metres), for those cases where you get crazy zig-zagging. I had noticed a while ago that JOSM appeared to handle GPX files incorrectly (and presum

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-27 Thread Franc Carter
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > just to give you a quick overview about recent changes in JOSM > (some of them will only apply after tonight's automatic build): > > * Scale has been fixed, now displays correct value and has some > "ticks" for

[OSM-talk] JOSM update

2008-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, just to give you a quick overview about recent changes in JOSM (some of them will only apply after tonight's automatic build): * Scale has been fixed, now displays correct value and has some "ticks" for better reading. However, I have not forced the scale to round values because this w