Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-10 Thread vitalie vrabie
Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> so, be a RealMan™ when this FemaleLogic® animal tells ya "you CANNOT >> do any transfers with an expired certificate". :) >> > Those who say "cannot do" should step aside for those who just do: You > can indeed do transfers with an expired cert, unless the email soft

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-09 Thread Thomas Fernandez
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 05:21:11 +0300 vitalie vrabie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so, be a RealMan™ when this FemaleLogic® animal tells ya "you CANNOT > do any transfers with an expired certificate". :) Those who say "cannot do" should step aside for those who just do: You can indeed do transfers wi

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread vitalie vrabie
George M. Menegakis wrote: > Real men always have the last word.. "Yes, dear!" :-) > exactly. so, be a RealMan™ when this FemaleLogic® animal tells ya "you CANNOT do any transfers with an expired certificate". :) ...or don't fear the expenses of the divorce, considering the benefits of

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello Rick, > In my house *** I *** am the captain of the ship > ... but I know who the admiral is Real men always have the last word.. "Yes, dear!" :-) -- George M. Menegakis Using The Bat v3.99.3 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 ___

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: > In my house *** I *** am the captain of the ship > sure. and it's YOUR duty to navigate around expired certificates and other sort of underwater rocks. > ... but I know who the admiral is :)) > mmm... Ritlabs? or Mother Nature, that 'stated' that rocks could deadly

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello vitalie On Wednesday, June 6, 2007 you wrote: > and further on with psychology, it means they're completely ruled by > their wives at home? In my house *** I *** am the captain of the ship ... but I know who the admiral is :)) -- Rick The Bat Version 3.99.8 __

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Goncalo On Thursday, June 7, 2007 you wrote: > I've seen that one is now able to remove attachments > from a received message. Personally I don't like that. They key is ABLE. You can choose. I persoanlly LIKE to be able to remove attachments especially from Incredimail users :)) -- Rick Th

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Thursday, June 7, 2007, 12:19:45 PM, Goncalo Farias wrote: > Nonetheless, I agree that one shouldn't have the possibility to edit > a received message. I've seen that one is now able to remove > attachments from a received message. Personally I don't like that. once you concede they should be

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-06 Thread vitalie vrabie
Dwight A Corrin wrote: >> Ritlabs is of the opinion that that it is in your best interest if >> they deny you the option of accepting an expired certificate. >> > They have a strong paternalistic streak. and further on with psychology, it means they're completely ruled by their wives at home?

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-06 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Saturday, June 2, 2007, 8:54:04 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Ritlabs is of the opinion that that it is in your best interest if > they deny you the option of accepting an expired certificate. They have a strong paternalistic streak. Lots like not letting one edit messages after receipt. --

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-03 Thread vitalie vrabie
Thomas Fernandez wrote: > vv> AFAIR, Max commented on this already. if your user is qualified indeed, > vv> he/she'd put something like stunnel. > > Does Max want to call each > sysad and remind him to please update his cert, as otherwise TB!-users > are unable to do their mailing? > why don'

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello vitalie, On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 02:48:12 +0300 GMT (04/06/2007, 06:48 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: >>I can see RitLabs Point... BUT after 30+ years of Eng and support >>experience I'd have to second the suggestion that Alerting a User >>is Imperative... Denying a (knowledgeabl

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-03 Thread vitalie vrabie
Jim Brown wrote: >I can see RitLabs Point... BUT after 30+ years of Eng and support >experience I'd have to second the suggestion that Alerting a User >is Imperative... Denying a (knowledgeable) user after the Alert is >excessive and Not in the best interest of the user OR product :

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-02 Thread Charlie Kroeger
Thomas Fernandez wrote: So, that's why folks who need to accept an expired certificate and really know what they are doing, cannot use TB! but must use Outlook. or Icedove.. -- C.K. Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Rick, On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 22:06:00 -0400 GMT (03/06/2007, 09:06 +0700 GMT), Rick Grunwald wrote: >> So, that's why folks who need to accept an expired certificate and >> really know what they are doing, cannot use TB! but must use Outlook. >> I'm a bit sad that Ritlabs is not interested in t

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-02 Thread Jim Brown
Hi Thomas, JB>>Though Outlook would have let me ignore this fault... :>) > JB>>Sorry to bother the list... > > Ritlabs is of the opinion that that it is in your best interest if > they deny you the option of accepting an expired certificate. They say > that they have heard of a grandmoth

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-02 Thread Rick Grunwald
> So, that's why folks who need to accept an expired certificate and > really know what they are doing, cannot use TB! but must use Outlook. > I'm a bit sad that Ritlabs is not interested in those customers who > know what they are doing any more. Can this be true? -- Rick The Bat Version 3.99.8

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jim, On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 13:57:32 -0400 GMT (03/06/2007, 00:57 +0700 GMT), Jim Brown wrote: >> A secure connection to the server could not be established. Account: >> 'email.cisco.com', Server: 'email.cisco.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: >> 995, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCC1A JB>

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-02 Thread Jim Brown
Hi Folks, >>6/1/2007, 14:00:36: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 432AECC1000303CF, algorithm: >>RSA (1024 bits), >> issued from 27 Mar 2006 to 27 Mar 2008, for 1 host(s): email.cisco.com. >>6/1/2007, 14:00:36: FETCH - Owner: US, CA, San Jose, CIsco Systems, EMS, >>email.cisco.com. >>6/1/2007, 14:00: