Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-15 Thread John
Very nice! I like that idea, but thought perhaps you could try implementing that into the sparkle ones. I agree that the icons should be similar, but show a difference. However the up arrow looks a little too much like a house to me. Makes me think of the "home" folder. Well, just some ideas.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 21:59:28 Nacho de los Ríos Tormo wrote: > I suggest that we might somehow add the "newness sparks flying out" > metaphor that is often used in other icons to indicate new something. > Like, for example, a sparking new computer inside the up arrow. > > Might that be a g

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Nacho de los Ríos Tormo
I suggest that we might somehow add the "newness sparks flying out" metaphor that is often used in other icons to indicate new something. Like, for example, a sparking new computer inside the up arrow. Might that be a good idea? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://li

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Eric Schwenke
Hi there, the idea with different icons for different update sorts is very nice and we should integrate that in future version. My idea about that, don't use different icons, many users go crazy and thinking on different apps. I would use colors, orange for "normal", green for "all ok" and red for

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 18:04:15 Lapo Calamandrei wrote: > 2007/2/14, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [SNIP] > > > The exclamation mark in the bottom one is kinda hard for me to > > see/understand and having the box in the front seems to make the icon > > look a bit too busy for my taste

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Lapo Calamandrei
2007/2/14, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [SNIP] > The exclamation mark in the bottom one is kinda hard for me to see/understand > and having the box in the front seems to make the icon look a bit too busy > for my tastes. I mean the previous one, affing stuff to the latest icons is not really

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi Lapo, On Wednesday 14 February 2007 16:47:31 Lapo Calamandrei wrote: > This is what I have in mind for software-update-available and the > uparrow-exclamationmark for software-update-urgent (eventually), the > orange arrow should tie the two icons together. These icons (I prefer > the one at th

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Lapo Calamandrei
This is what I have in mind for software-update-available and the uparrow-exclamationmark for software-update-urgent (eventually), the orange arrow should tie the two icons together. These icons (I prefer the one at the bottom) should work for our current needs imho (generic update available icon)

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 11:57:22 Lapo Calamandrei wrote: > 2007/2/14, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [SNIP] > > > I really liked the version with the computer on top :-) Another idea > > would be to use the orange version for normal updates and the red version > > for urgent updates. >

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 03:53:34 Troy James Sobotka wrote: > Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > *Really* like the arrows, the orange one suits me better but I could > > live with the red one too. > > > > Ken? > > Should be Humanized though shouldn't it? It is pretty close now, but yes, it should f

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Lapo Calamandrei
2007/2/14, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [SNIP] > I really liked the version with the computer on top :-) Another idea would be > to use the orange version for normal updates and the red version for urgent > updates. > uhm, since I'm colorblind I'm not to fond on color coding, I think those n

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi, On Wednesday 14 February 2007 11:03:12 Lapo Calamandrei wrote: > I checked the naimng specs, it contemplate software-update-available > and software-update-urgent: > > software-update-available: The icon used when an update is available > for software installed on the computing device, through

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Lapo Calamandrei
I checked the naimng specs, it contemplate software-update-available and software-update-urgent: software-update-available: The icon used when an update is available for software installed on the computing device, through the system software update program. software-update-urgent: The icon used w

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-14 Thread Eric Schwenke
Am Mittwoch, den 14.02.2007, 08:48 +0100 schrieb Eric Schwenke: > I like the icons from Lapo and used the arrow idea for a new icon. > > SVG Inside, Licence: GPL > > Sincerely Eric S. A little bit improved. - colors improved - arrow with more contrast - gloss is more human like Update2.svg D

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Eric Schwenke
I like the icons from Lapo and used the arrow idea for a new icon. SVG Inside, Licence: GPL Sincerely Eric S. g2282.png Description: PNG image g2283.png Description: PNG image Update.svg Description: image/svg -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Troy James Sobotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > *Really* like the arrows, the orange one suits me better but I could > live with the red one too. > > Ken? Should be Humanized though shouldn't it? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: U

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 01:30:44 Lapo Calamandrei wrote: > 2007/2/13, David Prieto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On mar, 2007-02-13 at 22:38 +0100, Lapo Calamandrei wrote: > > > What about something like these? > > > > That red arrow looks GREAT! > > continuing with the arrow trend, here's another

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 22:59:13 Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > Lapo Calamandrei wrote: > > What about something like these? > > > > Lapo > > > > > > *Really* like the arrows, the orange one suits me better but I could > live

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Lapo Calamandrei
2007/2/13, David Prieto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On mar, 2007-02-13 at 22:38 +0100, Lapo Calamandrei wrote: > What about something like these? That red arrow looks GREAT! continuing with the arrow trend, here's another try with a stylized computer on it Lapo system-update-available-alt.png Desc

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread tonic
How about a cd as they are strongly associated with software. tonic On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 23:45 +0100, Lapo Calamandrei wrote: > 2007/2/13, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > I like the idea of the up arrow, it does seem to symbolize "upgrading" or > > "improving". Needs to go al

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Lapo Calamandrei
2007/2/13, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I like the idea of the up arrow, it does seem to symbolize "upgrading" or > "improving". Needs to go along with something, though. Since the icon needs to be bold the dominant color should be something like red or orage, I can try to push in

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Lapo Calamandrei wrote: What about something like these? Lapo *Really* like the arrows, the orange one suits me better but I could live with the red one too. Ken? Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubunt

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I like the idea of the up arrow, it does seem to symbolize "upgrading" or "improving". Needs to go along with something, though. Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread David Prieto
On mar, 2007-02-13 at 22:38 +0100, Lapo Calamandrei wrote: > What about something like these? That red arrow looks GREAT! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Lapo Calamandrei
What about something like these? Lapo system-update-available.png Description: PNG image -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread tonic
I would think that the arrow icon would work well in conjunction with the notification bubble that we currently get. Actually it would be even better if the icon was on the bubble too. It would certainly draw a lot more attention to the message. cheers, tonic On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 08:54

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Yann Papouin
Troy James Sobotka a écrit : > Here is a Humanized offering of the arrow suggestion from Yann, along > with the newer Apport notification icon and the existing "Warning" > dialog icon. I really like this one, good work! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Troy James Sobotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here is a Humanized offering of the arrow suggestion from Yann, along with the newer Apport notification icon and the existing "Warning" dialog icon. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - ht

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi, I did a similar work :) Étienne update-notifier.svg Description: image/svg updates-notifier.png Description: PNG image -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Troy James Sobotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It is of utmost importance to consider who our audience is before we try to communicate with them. Who are they? I can tell you after having used Ubuntu since Warty, that I still have no clue. _If_ our audience were Joe and Josephine Average, with

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Yann Papouin
Viper550 a écrit : > Firefox uses various circles with up arrows on them (green for > extension upgrades, red for browser updates). We could adapt one of > these ideas, since people are familiar with their associations with > updates due to the popularity of both products. Yes this is true! Why

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Viper550
Étienne Bersac wrote: > Hi, > > They makes sense, however they still looks like label where people are > waiting for icon. > > Étienne. > > > I kinda like what XP SP2 and Firefox does for updates, XP uses a yellow shield with an exclamation point on it, and Firefox uses various circles with up

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi, They makes sense, however they still looks like label where people are waiting for icon. Étienne. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-13 Thread Eric Schwenke
Hi there, i have modified the current notifier icon a little bit, three variations, hope u like one of them! Sincerely Eric S. updates-notifier(blurry).png Description: PNG image updates-notifier2(blurry).png Description: PNG image updates-notifier3(blurry).png Description: PNG image up

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Andreas Haller
Hi, just wanted to add that i think the Tango icon would, or does (http://tango.freedesktop.org/static/cvs/tango-icon-theme/16x16/apps/system-software-update.png) not work on a small size. I also think the metaphor of the Tango icon is not optimal. I like the "recycle-arrows", but i am afraid tha

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Bryan Haskins
That seems like it would be completely bad at 16x16 even as an svg, (It is a nice icon though, and I like it's use on the Update Program itself (That's where it's used now right?)) we do need something a tad more eye catching though... not enough to break scheme. but enough to tell the user occas

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi Étienne, My suggestion to change the icon would be to "humanize" a tango icon: http://tango.freedesktop.org/static/cvs/tango-icon-theme/scalable/apps/system-software-update.svg It seems like a decent metaphor although I am not sure how well it would work at 16x16. That is the best thing abou

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Étienne Bersac
Yes master :P Étienne. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Étienne Bersac wrote: > I don't want agressive. The red hat example is far too annoying for my > taste. And may be very disturbing. (Especially in development release, i > sometimes let updates awaiting). > > The two points are : > > * Icon is not consistent with panel icon. I just had an id

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi Mark, I don't want agressive. The red hat example is far too annoying for my taste. And may be very disturbing. (Especially in development release, i sometimes let updates awaiting). The two points are : * Icon is not consistent with panel icon. I just had an idea : a package w

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-12 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Étienne Bersac wrote: > As i noticed during the dapper cycle, the update-notifier icon is wrong. > It has one goal : tell the user to manually trigger update. I notice > that neither my father nor my mother nor any other membres of my family > understood that (that's almost all the clueless people

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-04 Thread Yann Papouin
The update-notifier icon looks like the restart button of MS Windows XP (You can it here http://www.ashkon.com/images/rebootex.gif) The only difference for me is the color (green for Windows, orange for Ubuntu) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mai

Re: [ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-03 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/2/3, Étienne Bersac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi all, As i noticed during the dapper cycle, the update-notifier icon is wrong. It has one goal : tell the user to manually trigger update. I notice that neither my father nor my mother nor any other membres of my family understood that (that's alm

[ubuntu-art] Update-notifier icon

2007-02-03 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi all, As i noticed during the dapper cycle, the update-notifier icon is wrong. It has one goal : tell the user to manually trigger update. I notice that neither my father nor my mother nor any other membres of my family understood that (that's almost all the clueless people i can observe). Even

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-26 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Julian Turner wrote: Mark Shuttleworth wrote: These are really nice! If you can get those into Tangerine, we might promote them to Human with some slight tweaks. For a start, the smaller version we want should be 22x22 not 24x24 because we have sucked that bit of bong from Tango :-) Th

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Étienne Bersac wrote: Hello, I'm wondering if it's such a good idea to use exactly the same symbol for the update icon as for the restart icon. Especially when both appear besides each other it looks a bit like "we couldn't think of anything else". :-) You're right. Maybe a up-arrow should fi

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
j Mak wrote: I disagree with Henrik. I think the icon needs a gloss because all the other icons on the panel have some kind of gloss to them; so this feature would make it stylistically blend better with the rest. I also think they should have gloss, but that the arrows should be painted o

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread j Mak
I disagree with Henrik. I think the icon needs a gloss because all the other icons on the panel have some kind of gloss to them; so  this feature would make it stylistically blend better with the rest.J. Mak Julian Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I m

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread Julian Turner
Étienne Bersac wrote: > You're right. Maybe a up-arrow should fit the idea of upgrade/update ? That's probably not a good idea, since it's a metaphor based on language (like the old "log" icon for the system log. We shouldn't do that, because such metaphors won't necessarily work in all languages.

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread Julian Turner
Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > These are really nice! If you can get those into Tangerine, we might > promote them to Human with some slight tweaks. For a start, the > smaller version we want should be 22x22 not 24x24 because we have > sucked that bit of bong from Tango :-) Thanks! They actually are 2

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, I'm wondering if it's such a good idea to use exactly the same symbol for the update icon as for the restart icon. Especially when both appear besides each other it looks a bit like "we couldn't think of anything else". :-) You're right. Maybe a up-arrow should fit the idea of upgrade/u

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread Daniel Borgmann
On 3/23/06, Julian Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I made another version without swooshes and outlines on the arrows: > http://members.inode.at/387112/update-mockup.png shows what it look like > on the panel (the arrows still need some fine-tuning). > That image also contains a darker version

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Julian Turner wrote: I made another version without swooshes and outlines on the arrows: http://members.inode.at/387112/update-mockup.png shows what it look like on the panel (the arrows still need some fine-tuning). That image also contains a darker version (both colors are from the Ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, I made another version without swooshes and outlines on the arrows: http://members.inode.at/387112/update-mockup.png shows what it look like on the panel (the arrows still need some fine-tuning). That image also contains a darker version (both colors are from the Ubuntu palette, but I

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread Julian Turner
I made another version without swooshes and outlines on the arrows: http://members.inode.at/387112/update-mockup.png shows what it look like on the panel (the arrows still need some fine-tuning). That image also contains a darker version (both colors are from the Ubuntu palette, but I like the ligh

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Julian Turner wrote: Hi! You're absolutely right about the exclamation mark - it's just visual noise. But I found the gloss effect on your version doesn't make it easier to recognise the arrows: it lessens contrast. I did a quick gimp-up based on your work (I'm not a great vector artist, so I im

Re: [ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread Julian Turner
Hi! You're absolutely right about the exclamation mark - it's just visual noise. But I found the gloss effect on your version doesn't make it easier to recognise the arrows: it lessens contrast. I did a quick gimp-up based on your work (I'm not a great vector artist, so I imported your arrows into

[ubuntu-art] update-notifier icon

2006-03-23 Thread Manu Cornet
Wooops, wrote ubuntu-artwork instead of ubuntu-art :) Sorry again for the noise... Message transféré De: Manu Cornet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> À: ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sujet: update-notifier icon Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:21:39 +0100 Hi ! [Sorry for cros