Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-12 Thread Barry Drake
On 12/06/13 12:43, Avi Greenbury wrote: If Windows 8 does have a prohibitively-steep learning curve (and I don't believe it does) then they will probably simply upgrade to Windows 7. When buying a printer a few weeks ago, I asked PcWorld if I could use the internet to check compatibility. Th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-12 Thread Avi Greenbury
Paul Sutton wrote: > On 12/06/13 12:43, Avi Greenbury wrote: > > Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: > >> Appart from canonical who could provide the service? And why is windows > >> service > >> cheaper than gnu/linux distros? I thought the reasoning was that one > >> gnu/linux > >> admin was more exp

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-12 Thread Paul Sutton
On 12/06/13 12:43, Avi Greenbury wrote: > Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: >> A) I do not know about your local libraries but mine are still on >> windowsxp. So they will have to replace it soon with win8. And that >> has a steeper learning curve than any of the most common distros. B) > If Windows 8

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-12 Thread Avi Greenbury
Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: > A) I do not know about your local libraries but mine are still on > windowsxp. So they will have to replace it soon with win8. And that > has a steeper learning curve than any of the most common distros. B) If Windows 8 does have a prohibitively-steep learning curve

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-12 Thread alan c
On 11/06/13 23:17, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: a gnu/linux admin could manage over more units, so turned out cheaper. That is - sort of - most certainly my personal experience. I help a big bunch of friends etc who, in the 'friends and family' network, looked to me to help them get ont

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Muñiz Piniella , Andrés
El 11/06/2013 23:39, "alan c" escribió: > > On 11/06/13 09:20, Simon Greenwood wrote: >> >> it isn't going to change. > > > It will change if people act to encourage and promote change. > > The library now using Open Office not MS is the same one which displayed my FLOSS leaflets regularly over th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread alan c
On 11/06/13 09:20, Simon Greenwood wrote: it isn't going to change. It will change if people act to encourage and promote change. The library now using Open Office not MS is the same one which displayed my FLOSS leaflets regularly over the previous 2 years. Maybe they actually read them? M

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Sean Miller
I think it'll all be largely irrelevant in a few years... with more and more functionality moving from OS to browser/cloud the operating system is becoming less and less important. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTea

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Michael
On 11/06/13 10:30, Nigel Verity wrote: Dear All In more than 10 years of working with public sector organisations I have never found any appetite to change from Microsoft products, no matter how the case for open source alternatives is made. Partly it is because many public/civil servants ha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread George Tripp
>> This is the way things are going to go as outsourcing becomes the >> norm and unless councils find a good reason to adopt FLOSS (and cost >> doesn't seem to be one, despite what we're told about making >> savings), it isn't going to change. > > Cost is one reason - it's more expensive to s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Paul Sutton
On 11/06/13 09:28, Avi Greenbury wrote: > Simon Greenwood wrote: >> This is the way things are going to go as outsourcing becomes the >> norm and unless councils find a good reason to adopt FLOSS (and cost >> doesn't seem to be one, despite what we're told about making >> savings), it isn't going t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Nigel Verity
Dear All In more than 10 years of working with public sector organisations I have never found any appetite to change from Microsoft products, no matter how the case for open source alternatives is made. Partly it is because many public/civil servants have not the faintest awareness of any alte

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Avi Greenbury
Simon Greenwood wrote: > This is the way things are going to go as outsourcing becomes the > norm and unless councils find a good reason to adopt FLOSS (and cost > doesn't seem to be one, despite what we're told about making > savings), it isn't going to change. Cost is one reason - it's more expe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 10 June 2013 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: > Hello all, > I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. > > My local library is one of the only libraries that is actually getting > bigger in the near future. One of the improvements is that they are going > to install some new com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread alan c
On 10/06/13 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: Hello all, I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. My local library is one of the only libraries that is actually getting bigger in the near future. One of the improvements is that they are going to install some new computers. I aske

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-10 Thread Tony Pursell
On 10 June 2013 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: > Hello all, > I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. > > My local library is one of the only libraries that is actually getting > bigger in the near future. One of the improvements is that they are going > to install some new com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-10 Thread Muñiz Piniella , Andrés
El 11/06/2013 00:27, "Paul Sutton" escribió: > > On 10/06/13 23:25, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: > > > > > > El 10/06/2013 23:58, "Paul Sutton" > > escribió: > > > > > > On 10/06/13 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > I was hoping some

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-10 Thread Paul Sutton
On 10/06/13 23:25, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: > > > El 10/06/2013 23:58, "Paul Sutton" > escribió: > > > > On 10/06/13 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, > > > I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. > > > > > > My local library is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-10 Thread Muñiz Piniella , Andrés
El 10/06/2013 23:58, "Paul Sutton" escribió: > > On 10/06/13 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. > > > > My local library is one of the only libraries that is actually getting > > bigger in the near future. One of the im

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-10 Thread Paul Sutton
On 10/06/13 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: > > Hello all, > I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. > > My local library is one of the only libraries that is actually getting > bigger in the near future. One of the improvements is that they are > going to install some new comput

[ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-10 Thread Muñiz Piniella , Andrés
Hello all, I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. My local library is one of the only libraries that is actually getting bigger in the near future. One of the improvements is that they are going to install some new computers. I asked if there was a chance of it being a good chance o