Re: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Mark Davis
gt;; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "SADAHIRO Tomoyuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Unicode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 15:55 Subject: RE: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8 > > It is definitely a problem to t

RE: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Yves Arrouye
> It is definitely a problem to try to interpret what any given label is > supposed to be. The problem is that MIME labels and others are > ambiguous, and are interpreted different ways on different systems. Still, in the meantime it does make sense to have EUC-JP associated to the most common in

Re: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Mark Davis \(jtcsv\)
ns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "SADAHIRO Tomoyuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:21 Subject: Re: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

Re: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Dan Kogai
Marco, Thank you for elaborating my points. On 2002.02.02, at 01:40, Marco Cimarosti wrote: > << The entire former contents of this directory are obsolete and have > been > moved to the OBSOLETE directory. The latest information may be found > in the Unihan.txt file in the latest Unicode Ch

Re: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Dan Kogai
I'll answer this one. On 2002.02.02, at 03:28, Yves Arrouye wrote: > That is understandable if they use different tables. The question is > which > one is the "right" EUC-JP, and which one do users want? ICU, as well as > iconv, could have two tables with the different mappings. The question >

Re: RE: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Rick McGowan
Marco wrote... > The web version of the data seems more up to date than the ftp site. They are the same files, available through different protocols! Rick

RE: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Yves Arrouye
>> As part of the mystery of CJK encodings I notice that IBM's ICU's >> uconv and SuSE6.4 linux iconv differ as to the UTF-8 representation >> if table.euc >> >> Both converters will round-trip with themselves and give byte exact >> copy of table.euc >> >> Weirdly they differ in how they map '\

Re: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Mark Davis
Message - From: "Dan Kogai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Nick Ing-Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Nick Ing-Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "SADAHIRO Tomoyuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sen

RE: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Dan Kogai wrote: >As I addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], Yet another problems that > ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/EASTASIA/ is now gone > so I don't > have a practical way to check the mapping. I want the mapping back! The Unicode site is a little bit labyrinthic, sometimes. The

Re: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Mark Leisher
Nick> ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/OBSOLETE Nick> ***HOWEVER** if you use the NON-INTUTIVE URL: Nick> http://ftp.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/ Nick> one gets redirected to Nick> http://www.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/ Nick> which is as you state. Quite right.

Re: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Mark Leisher
Dan> As I addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], Yet another problems that Dan> ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/EASTASIA/ is now gone so I Dan> don't have a practical way to check the mapping. I want the mapping Dan> back! *Sigh* Readme.txt, which *is* in the Public/MAPPINGS/EAS

Re: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Dan Kogai
On 2002.02.02, at 00:37, Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: >> Oh, yes. This is the problem of the original Unicode 2.x map; It is >> not ASCII preservative. I have posted this problem to perl- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I first released Jcode. Several discussions >> later, I made Jcode so that it preser

Re: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Dan Kogai
On 2002.02.01, at 23:57, Mark Leisher wrote: > Dan> FYI I have reported this brain-dead mapping problem to Unicode > Dan> Consortium but never got an answer. Well, they are not public > Dan> society in a way they charge for the membership to say > anything. One > Dan> of the rea

Re: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Dan Kogai
On 2002.02.02, at 00:32, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: >>So far as I see Linux iconv is ascii-preservative while ICS's is >> Unicode-strict. >>From Perl's point of view ASCII preservative should be default. > > Why? I have already answered in the previous mail (Subject:More on Unicode Mapp

Re: ICU's uconv vs Linux iconv and UTF-8

2002-02-01 Thread Mark Leisher
Dan> FYI I have reported this brain-dead mapping problem to Unicode Dan> Consortium but never got an answer. Well, they are not public Dan> society in a way they charge for the membership to say anything. One Dan> of the reasons so many Japanese love to hate Unicode... This kin