Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Jerry Daniels
Great short article that I believe accurately describes the corporate culture behind Apple's platform lock down. Mark Bernstein: Platform Control http://www.markbernstein.org/Apr10/PlatformControl.html (via Instapaper) Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20%

User Extensions/Externals

2010-05-01 Thread Graham & Heather Harrison
Jacque and Mark (W) I started with the lesson I quoted but sort of diverged and only had a small section of the code. By the time I posted the question on "revert" I was more interested in just that, than the full externals bit. Jacque: I was wondering in the back of my mind how rev could proce

Re: An Erlang IDE and interactive shell

2010-05-01 Thread Jerry Daniels
VERY cool! Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On May 1, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Jeff Massung wrote: > I'm not sure if anyone else here also happens to program in Erlang, but it's > something I do quite often and I re

An Erlang IDE and interactive shell

2010-05-01 Thread Jeff Massung
I'm not sure if anyone else here also happens to program in Erlang, but it's something I do quite often and I really hate that there's no real good IDE for it. Anyway, last weekend I decided to put one together in Rev... just something simple that had syntax highlighting and would allow me to inter

Re: RevStore

2010-05-01 Thread Marty Knapp
My boys made games like that when they were younger! lol - that brings back some funny memories. Marty I confess though, in retrospect I really do wish I'd saved a copy of "Man Gets Beheaded By a Ceiling Fan." You had to be there. ___ use-revol

Re: Ink Settings and Printing

2010-05-01 Thread Marty Knapp
I was afraid of that. Oh well - thanks for letting me know. Marty Marty Knapp wrote: I'm trying to print a card with a jpeg image on it and have noticed that when I set the Ink to anything other than the standard srcCopy that the image quality suffers noticeably. I think I tired every settin

Re: RevStore

2010-05-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richard Gaskin wrote: When people look at a tool like Rev they want to see there's a sizable afternarket as an indicator of viability. So it benefits RunRev more than anyone else to improve the presentation of third-party offerings all over their site. But with caution. I'm in favor of keep

Re: User Extensions/Externals

2010-05-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Graham- Saturday, May 1, 2010, 5:03:01 PM, you wrote: > Mark Wieder wrote: >> Try looking in the externals instead of the externalPackages. > It wasn't me looking in the externalPackages, Guv. Honest to God. Never went > near 'em. Swelp me. Hmmm. You sure we're looking at the same lesson? -

Re: Ink Settings and Printing

2010-05-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
Marty Knapp wrote: I'm trying to print a card with a jpeg image on it and have noticed that when I set the Ink to anything other than the standard srcCopy that the image quality suffers noticeably. I think I tired every setting that allows underlaying objects to show through the white bounding

RE: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Also, adobe isn't doing any of its code "donkeys" any favors when it under exploits the market through old world protectionist business practices and an avoidance of future looking technology. As with retirement pools, an entity will never be able to sustain old obligations on the profits of old

User Extensions/Externals

2010-05-01 Thread Graham & Heather Harrison
Mark Wieder wrote: > Try looking in the externals instead of the externalPackages. It wasn't me looking in the externalPackages, Guv. Honest to God. Never went near 'em. Swelp me. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please

[Demo] The Slug's Data Grid Library is on the road

2010-05-01 Thread zryip theSlug
Hi all, As soon as I have started to study seriously the Data Grid object, I fallen in love for it. Again, a big thanks to Trevor to have built this powerful object! The last week, I have found time to really work on it in my Lab. I started to try different things, and step by step I built a sor

RE: logistic example of Runrev Revolution?

2010-05-01 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Shani, Shani-2 wrote: > > Hi, thanks for your reply. > You are welcome! :-) Shani-2 wrote: > > I am talking about trucks, fields, plants. > Simulation. Trucks bids to the field or plant and go for loading, etc. > A simulation like Harvest Moon or FarmVille? No, i have not seen anyth

Ink Settings and Printing

2010-05-01 Thread Marty Knapp
I'm trying to print a card with a jpeg image on it and have noticed that when I set the Ink to anything other than the standard srcCopy that the image quality suffers noticeably. I think I tired every setting that allows underlaying objects to show through the white bounding box of my jpeg - w

Re: Webinar Client (like Dim-Dim) | ITunes Alternative (like Song Bird)

2010-05-01 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Scott, Scott Rossi wrote: > > I've built many music and video players over the years with RunRev. > The one major limitation you will find is that media support will be > limited to > those media that are supported by Apple's QuickTime (and QT must be > installed on the user's system). > [s

Re: RevStore

2010-05-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
François Chaplais wrote: > RevOnline (the one I know from studio) requires revolution and has > a crappy interface. Plus you cannot do business there. > > http://revonline2.runrev.com/ : just have a look at the top downloads > and the the screen shot: it's ugly. Plus it does not sell. > > I assum

RE: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
To look at photshop or illustrator as chronos as perfect form in their categories is like looking to some awkward plated dinosaur as pattern for the future of land animals. If the target of open source is restricted to the application layer we should expect nothing more than crippled duplicates

Re: [OT] Semantics

2010-05-01 Thread Jerry Daniels
Harsh. Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On May 1, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: > Standards only work to the extent that they apply protocol at the most > effective strata in the stack. When ad

Re: RevStore

2010-05-01 Thread Jerry Daniels
RevSelect is really about add-ons to Rev. I considered opening a stack store and ran the business case. A lot of work and sizable risk. Still can't get it out of my head,tho. I would be as dictatorial as Steve Jobs, probably. Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to

RE: [OT] Semantics

2010-05-01 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Standards only work to the extent that they apply protocol at the most effective strata in the stack. When adobe restricts graphics protocol that should live down near the lower reaches of the OS or below, to above the application level, they create an unstable and ultimately untenable imbalanc

Re: RevStore

2010-05-01 Thread François Chaplais
Le 1 mai 2010 à 23:24, Richard Gaskin a écrit : > François Chaplais wrote: > > > What does RunRev do to promote, distribute and sell software that > > has been developed with revolution? I mean the traditional stuff: > > desktop applications. > > The answer: nothing (as far as I know). > > What

Re: User Extensions/Externals

2010-05-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
Graham & Heather Harrison wrote: In the first rev lesson on externals at http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/buckets/784/lessons/7116-How-to-safely-attach-an-external-to-your-stack, after saving the stack this statement is issued: send "revert" to me in 5 ticks -- the equivalent of quit the

Re: RevStore

2010-05-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
François Chaplais wrote: > What does RunRev do to promote, distribute and sell software that > has been developed with revolution? I mean the traditional stuff: > desktop applications. > The answer: nothing (as far as I know). What are RevOnline and RevSelect? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Richmond asked "Can we?": > On 01/05/2010 20:09, Peter Haworth wrote: >> Here's a thought for Rev - put revMobile on Android. >> >> Pete Haworth >> > Can we? Yes, we can (someday, maybe). Rev's FAQ used to say "not at this time, but we will keep an eye on it". Now, it says "We do intend to su

[OT] Semantics

2010-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
"Speed and standards." http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2361444,00.asp All the 'stuff' that we have been chewing over re Steve Jobs, Apple, Adobe and, now Internet Explorer 9, come down to "Speed and standards." The question is not really about Apple's, Adobe's or Microsoft's motivation (t

RevStore

2010-05-01 Thread François Chaplais
There has been a number of threads about Apple and revMobile that really tempted be to go trolling and flaming... I have let some time pass, and I think it is time to reverse the question and forget about Steve Jobs. The topic is: one of the reasons of the success of the iPhone is the AppStore.

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 01/05/2010 22:23, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: don't you guys get it? Adobe is the biggest creep in techdom. Do you remember how they screwed apple over post script? They are the patent hogs who have stymied computational evolution for 30 years. The only company worse then them was microm

Re: AW: How to translate a rev path to an absolut unix path?

2010-05-01 Thread Thierry D.
Le 1 mai 2010 à 17:47, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : > Bon soir Thierry, > > your proposal seems to be half the way. Bonsoir Tiemo, So, did check with your specs. add a bundle folder in my dir, hide and lock a test file inside the bundle folder and did this : -- create a zip file keeping all s

Re: Is rev Oracle support just a joke?

2010-05-01 Thread Sakari Ruoho
Hi Devin, I got Rev Enterprise. This is an old mail chain, which I just did revive today. Some info should be available if you track back the chain. BR, Sakari Ruoho Devin Asay wrote: On May 1, 2010, at 3:45 AM, Sakari Ruoho wrote: I still see that the RunRev website advertises that it

Re: [ANN] Control tRev's Browser default action via Magic Menus

2010-05-01 Thread Peter Alcibiades
I'd love to use it. However, Jerry does not make a version for Linux, and has no intention of doing so. Meanwhile, over on Planet Python, there are lots of fabulous editors that don't crash on cut and paste. Maybe Jerry's is better than any of them, probably is. But they exist for my OS, his

RE: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
don't you guys get it? Adobe is the biggest creep in techdom. Do you remember how they screwed apple over post script? They are the patent hogs who have stymied computational evolution for 30 years. The only company worse then them was micromedia and adobe acquired flash by buying them outr

Re: User Extensions/Externals

2010-05-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Graham- Friday, April 30, 2010, 10:34:00 PM, you wrote: > In the first rev lesson on externals at > http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/buckets/784/lessons/7116-How-to-safely-attach-an-external-to-your-stack, > after saving the stack this statement is issued: > send "revert" to me in 5 tick

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark- Saturday, May 1, 2010, 7:29:52 AM, you wrote: > Bill is making photographs now. He also published an iPhone > application called PhotoCard :-) > http://www.billatkinson.com/aboutPhotoCard.html Bill's also *very* involved with Numenta: http://www.numenta.com/ but when I talked with him

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 01/05/2010 20:12, Richard Gaskin wrote: Colin Holgate wrote: > On May 1, 2010, at 10:02 AM, René Micout wrote: > >> I think it is possible to create application for iPad without >> putting it into the App Store. > > While that is true, it would also break the SDK agreement. The > agreement do

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 01/05/2010 20:09, Peter Haworth wrote: Here's a thought for Rev - put revMobile on Android. Pete Haworth Can we? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subs

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Colin Holgate wrote: > On May 1, 2010, at 10:02 AM, René Micout wrote: > >> I think it is possible to create application for iPad without >> putting it into the App Store. > > While that is true, it would also break the SDK agreement. The > agreement doesn't say that you can only use certain langu

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread René Micout
But what about iPad ? Le 1 mai 2010 à 19:09, Peter Haworth a écrit : > Here's a thought for Rev - put revMobile on Android. > > Pete Haworth > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscrib

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Peter Haworth
Here's a thought for Rev - put revMobile on Android. Pete Haworth ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailma

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 01/05/2010 19:24, Ian Wood wrote: On 1 May 2010, at 08:55, Peter Alcibiades wrote: HTML5 is not open. Its a different flavor of proprietary, by the way. H264 is proprietary. H264 is proprietary, but h264 is NOT part of HTML5. HTML5 just specifies a video tag without specifying the ty

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Ian Wood
On 1 May 2010, at 08:55, Peter Alcibiades wrote: HTML5 is not open. Its a different flavor of proprietary, by the way. H264 is proprietary. H264 is proprietary, but h264 is NOT part of HTML5. HTML5 just specifies a video tag without specifying the type of video. HTML5 is no more propr

Re: [OT] MicroSheep follow a "bad" Apple

2010-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
If Messrs Jobs and Gates (et al) really cared about open standards for the internet and so on, they would not be restricting Flash or code-bases; quite the opposite; they would be falling over each other to implement support for absolutely everything - whether proprietary (such as Flash) or open

AW: How to translate a rev path to an absolut unix path?

2010-05-01 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Bon soir Thierry, your proposal seems to be half the way. Doing it your way, ditto creates a folder as the output, containing the app and the file within the app is still locked. That looks good, beside the output is a normal folder and isn't a zip file anymore. Using the parameter Ditto -c - k -r

RE: [OT] MicroSheep follow a "bad" Apple

2010-05-01 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/30/microsoft-looks-to-a-future-of-h-2 > > 64-based-html5-for-web-video-content/ > > > Not really. By saying that only H.264 is support, they mean > that they are not going to directly support other HTML5 video > formats, such as Ogg Vorbis ones. Flash video,

Re: Is rev Oracle support just a joke?

2010-05-01 Thread Devin Asay
On May 1, 2010, at 3:45 AM, Sakari Ruoho wrote: > I still see that the RunRev website advertises that it works with > Oracle. Last time I checked this was far from the thruth. Is this still > the case? What version of Rev do you have? Integrated support for Oracle database connectivity is onl

RE: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> I guess someone else agrees with Apple: > > http://www.itnews.com.au/News/173519,microsoft-announces-ie9-w > ill-not-support-flash.aspx I could be wrong, but I believe several sites are quoting this link: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2010/04/29/html5-video.aspx I don't think he is saying

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread René Micout
For now, I dont see the color of an iPad... :-) or :-( at the end of this month ?) Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:58, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : > On 01/05/2010 17:48, Colin Holgate wrote: >> On May 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, René Micout wrote: >> >>> The only possibility for Apple to prohibit other language

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread René Micout
In some areas (mainly trade), it is true that multinationals are sometimes more powerful than states, but in other cases (and "freedom" is part of it) states and their legislation is far more powerful than the companies . Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:54, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : > On 01/05/2010 17:36

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 01/05/2010 17:48, Colin Holgate wrote: On May 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, René Micout wrote: The only possibility for Apple to prohibit other language that C, C++ and Objective C is when you submit an application for App Store approbation... How can they do otherwise ? They can change the iPho

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 01/05/2010 17:36, Colin Holgate wrote: On May 1, 2010, at 10:31 AM, René Micout wrote: I think it is not legal (clause leonine)... In France I think this clause is not possible. I think it is a juridic debat... Perhaps Europe could sue Apple like they sued Microsoft! http://en.wikipe

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Colin Holgate
On May 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, René Micout wrote: > The only possibility for Apple to prohibit other language that C, C++ and > Objective C is when you submit an application for App Store approbation... > How can they do otherwise ? They can change the iPhone OS to not run apps that were made fro

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread René Micout
And if I do that and Apple make me a procedure. In France (it is not USA) the court, if I am wrong, condamn me, perhaps, ONE euro (symbolistic) in damages... Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:40, René Micout a écrit : > If I develop MY application for MY iPad and if I dont put it into the App > Store, Apple

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread René Micout
If I develop MY application for MY iPad and if I dont put it into the App Store, Apple cannot do anything against me The only possibility for Apple to prohibit other language that C, C++ and Objective C is when you submit an application for App Store approbation... How can they do otherwise ? The

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread René Micout
Yes, I know, but in French "Où es-tu ... ?" is an expression to invoque somebody to remind the present greatness of the past... Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:29, Mark Schonewille a écrit : > Bill is making photographs now. He also published an iPhone application > called PhotoCard :-) > http://www.billatk

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Colin Holgate
On May 1, 2010, at 10:31 AM, René Micout wrote: > I think it is not legal (clause leonine)... In France I think this clause is > not possible. > I think it is a juridic debat... Perhaps Europe could sue Apple like they sued Microsoft! ___ use-revol

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread René Micout
I think it is not legal (clause leonine)... In France I think this clause is not possible. I think it is a juridic debat... Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:24, Colin Holgate a écrit : > On May 1, 2010, at 10:02 AM, René Micout wrote: > >> I think it is possible to create application for iPad without puttin

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Mark Schonewille
Bill is making photographs now. He also published an iPhone application called PhotoCard :-) http://www.billatkinson.com/aboutPhotoCard.html -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xta

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Colin Holgate
On May 1, 2010, at 10:02 AM, René Micout wrote: > I think it is possible to create application for iPad without putting it into > the App Store. While that is true, it would also break the SDK agreement. The agreement doesn't say that you can only use certain languages for Store apps, it says

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread René Micout
In 1987 this was the primary purpose of HyperCard (oh Bill [Atkinson] where are you !?) Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:02, René Micout a écrit : > Dear Richmond, > I think it is possible to create application for iPad without putting it into > the App Store. > For my own it is enough... My application (my

Re: iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread René Micout
Dear Richmond, I think it is possible to create application for iPad without putting it into the App Store. For my own it is enough... My application (my project are not to be sold) But how many people (here) make application 1. for themselves 2. directly for a company (App store > not necessary..

iPhone?

2010-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Oddly enough I see that RunRev are still marketing their revMobile (which I understand to work with Windows mobile as well as the iPhone OS): "We will be introducing a brand new product, revMobile, which will initially support Maemo, Windows Mobile, the iPhone and iPad." However, as far as I ca

Re: [Data Grid] Duplicate large amount of rows

2010-05-01 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/5/1 Trevor DeVore : > On Apr 30, 2010, at 2:04 PM, zryip theSlug wrote: > >> However the Data Grid command "AddData" does more than a simple >> creation of a new index in an array. This is where I'm suspicious with >> my code. > > AddData has to update any caches that are created when setting

Re: How to translate a rev path to an absolut unix path?

2010-05-01 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/5/1 Tiemo Hollmann TB : > Hello, > > > > since I don't find a way how to preserve the lock status of a file, when > zipping, I am now trying to follow Marks plan B, but am shipwrecking without > Mac experience. > > I have the rev path of my file like: "/foo/myfile" in myFile. I have an > oneli

Re: How to translate a rev path to an absolut unix path?

2010-05-01 Thread Thierry D.
Le 1 mai 2010 à 14:50, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : > Hello, > > since I don't find a way how to preserve the lock status of a file, Hi Tiemo, This command did work for me on Snow Leopard : ditto -v -rsrcFork /source /destination I could keep all hidden and immutable flags ! HTH Regards, Th

How to translate a rev path to an absolut unix path?

2010-05-01 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, since I don't find a way how to preserve the lock status of a file, when zipping, I am now trying to follow Marks plan B, but am shipwrecking without Mac experience. I have the rev path of my file like: "/foo/myfile" in myFile. I have an oneliner applescript "set the locked of myFile to

Re: [OT] MicroSheep follow a "bad" Apple

2010-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 01/05/2010 15:10, Colin Holgate wrote: On May 1, 2010, at 2:20 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Adobe must be sweating: http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/30/microsoft-looks-to-a-future-of-h-264-based-html5-for-web-video-content/ Not really. By saying that only H.264 is support, they mean tha

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Colin Holgate
On May 1, 2010, at 3:34 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: > I guess someone else agrees with Apple: > > http://www.itnews.com.au/News/173519,microsoft-announces-ie9-will-not-support-flash.aspx > > What a hoot :-)) That article has been quoted all over the place, and fortunately most of the debate has bee

Re: [OT] MicroSheep follow a "bad" Apple

2010-05-01 Thread Colin Holgate
On May 1, 2010, at 2:20 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > Adobe must be sweating: > > http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/30/microsoft-looks-to-a-future-of-h-264-based-html5-for-web-video-content/ Not really. By saying that only H.264 is support, they mean that they are not going to directly suppo

Re: Is rev Oracle support just a joke?

2010-05-01 Thread Sakari Ruoho
Ok :D Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 01/05/2010 12:45, Sakari Ruoho wrote: I still see that the RunRev website advertises that it works with Oracle. Last time I checked this was far from the thruth. Is this still the case? The documentation says that one can run RunRev on SPARC, HP-UX, SCO O

Re: Is rev Oracle support just a joke?

2010-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 01/05/2010 12:45, Sakari Ruoho wrote: I still see that the RunRev website advertises that it works with Oracle. Last time I checked this was far from the thruth. Is this still the case? The documentation says that one can run RunRev on SPARC, HP-UX, SCO Open DeskTop, Silicon Graphics IRIX

Re: Is rev Oracle support just a joke?

2010-05-01 Thread Sakari Ruoho
I still see that the RunRev website advertises that it works with Oracle. Last time I checked this was far from the thruth. Is this still the case? Best Regards, Sakari Ruoho ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visi

AW: how to zip a bundle, keeping all "locked attributes"

2010-05-01 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, I am missing some Mac know-how. I tried different zip tools and with all my locked file (inside a bundle) is unlocked after having the bundle zipped and unzipped. So obviously it is not a matter of ditto, but of the system. So Marks advice to set the locked of the file by program after havi

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Kay C Lan
If this were April 1st I'd certainly think you were on to something, but a Google search of 'Dean Hachamovitch' reveals he really is who they say he is. Bye Bye Flash... Almost seems like a Tech Lynching. Now let me guess, there'll be a whole bunch of rumours surrounding this event, followed by le

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Peter Alcibiades
I don't like or approve of Flash either! But it is hilarious to see the people who are opposing it and why. To an outside observer it seems like MS, Adobe, Apple are all about as alike as Coke and Pepsi on this one. Maybe Apple is a bit worse but there's not much in it. HTML5 is not open. I

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 01/05/2010 10:34, Kay C Lan wrote: I guess someone else agrees with Apple: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/173519,microsoft-announces-ie9-will-not-support-flash.aspx What a hoot :-)) Is that person's name really "Hachamovitch"? Hack - em - over - itch. Must be the lack of sleep last night

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Kay C Lan
I guess someone else agrees with Apple: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/173519,microsoft-announces-ie9-will-not-support-flash.aspx What a hoot :-)) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubsc

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-01 Thread Peter Alcibiades
The article starts out by endorsing Jobs' criticism of Flash and agreeing with him that the problem with Flash is that it is proprietary, and that an Internet in which much of the content is coded in a proprietary format which requires a particular software package from one vendor to access it, is