Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-04 Thread P NIKOLIC
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 20:28:34 +0700 "Urmas" wrote: > "Les Howell" > > > Microsoft hated the competition > > and so captured the control-J function (which happens to be a line > > feed.) This meant that the Windows systems would not run Wordstar. > > That's bullshit. Ctrl+J is a shortcut for Just

[libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-04 Thread Urmas
"Les Howell" Microsoft hated the competition and so captured the control-J function (which happens to be a line feed.) This meant that the Windows systems would not run Wordstar. That's bullshit. Ctrl+J is a shortcut for Justify and... a paragraph mark in text controls. The Wordstar team

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-04 Thread Les Howell
On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 16:39 -0500, Doug wrote: > On 11/03/2013 02:06 PM, Upscope wrote: > > On Saturday, November 02, 2013 12:46:43 PM Urmas wrote: > >> "Les Howell": > >> > >> Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft > >> Office? > >> > >> Microsoft mostly. > >> > > /

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Doug
On 11/03/2013 02:06 PM, Upscope wrote: > On Saturday, November 02, 2013 12:46:43 PM Urmas wrote: >> "Les Howell": >> >> Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft >> Office? >> >> Microsoft mostly. >> /snip/ > Thats not totally correct if I remember right. Office starte

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Virgil Arrington
urday, November 02, 2013 9:44 PM To: LibreOffice Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria Virgil Arrington wrote: StarOffice users are Linux users? . . . . I have never seen StarOffice available for

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Dale Erwin
On 11/2/2013 12:46 AM, Urmas wrote: "Les Howell": Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft Office? Microsoft mostly. BS!!! The only thing MS ever developed from scratch without stealing anything was "Bob". -- Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdale

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Upscope
On Saturday, November 02, 2013 12:46:43 PM Urmas wrote: > "Les Howell": > > Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft > Office? > > Microsoft mostly. > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.or

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2013-11-03 Thread Urmas
"P NIKOLIC": You trying to be funny Which one is (or was) better then? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquett

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread James Knott
Valter Mura wrote: > Seems to be the same story as Netscape vs. Internet Exploder... oops > Explorer... MS was also late to the game for the Internet. Apparenly BG didn't think much of it. IIRC, they bought another app to make IE. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreof

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread P NIKOLIC
On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 03:57:16 +0700 "Urmas" wrote: > "Jay Lozier": > > > They didn't design the first, but they have designed the best. > > You trying to be funny read some spam before now but that take the biscuit Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.11.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Oct 18 23:22:36

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Valter Mura
In data sabato 2 novembre 2013 17:38:27, Jay Lozier ha scritto: > On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 15:20 -0400, James Knott wrote: > > Urmas wrote: > > > Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft > > > Office? > > > > > > Microsoft mostly. > > > > IIRC, they bought what became Ex

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread Valter Mura
In data sabato 2 novembre 2013 17:11:55, Fred James ha scritto: > Urmas wrote: > > "Jay Lozier": > >> Microsoft did not develop the first office productivity packages. > > > > There were no 'office packages' before Microsoft Office. > > > >> Several predated any MS offerings and were available be

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2013-11-03 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
gt; Virgil > > > -----Original Message----- From: Fred James > Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 5:11 PM > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: > [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office > gratuito pa

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2013-11-02 Thread James Knott
James Knott wrote: > I used to use PC-Write on DOS many years ago. IIRC, the same company > had a spreadsheet and database available. Of course, if we don't limit > ourselves to PCs, the mainframe and minicomputer world had "office" > software long before there was such a thing as a PC. Forgot t

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2013-11-02 Thread James Knott
baldwin linguas wrote: > I can remember writing college papers with Clarisworks. > And there was Wordperfect from Corel. > Although, I'm uncertain whether these were before or after MSOffice. > I saw them both before I ever heard of MSOffice, though. > > Let's see...Clarisworks was released 1984. >

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread James Knott
Virgil Arrington wrote: > StarOffice users are Linux users? . . . . > I have never seen StarOffice available for Linux. StarOffice was a MS > OS package not a Linux package, when it first came out, so StarOffice > "audience" was a Windows "audience" and not Linux. Actually OOo, AOO, > and LO may

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2013-11-02 Thread Fred James
Virgil Arrington wrote: (omissions for brevity) Last I saw, this is a *user's* list, not necessarily a *cheerleader's* list. Virgil (omissions for brevity) So tell me, Urmas, if you find MSO to be the best, why are your here on an LO list? Regards Fred James Neither a booster or a trasher

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread baldwin linguas
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Fred James wrote: > Urmas wrote: >> >> "Jay Lozier": >> >>> Microsoft did not develop the first office productivity packages. >> >> >> There were no 'office packages' before Microsoft Office. >> >>> Several predated any MS offerings and were available before the IBM

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread Virgil Arrington
arios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria On 11/02/2013 08:36 AM, Urmas wrote: "Kracked_P_P---webmaster": 90% of the businesses users I know of use less than 10% of the features and functions that MSO has. BTW, you know what one can do wi

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread Virgil Arrington
*user's* list, not necessarily a *cheerleader's* list. Virgil -Original Message- From: Fred James Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 5:11 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede e

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2013-11-02 Thread Doug
On 11/2/2013 4:57 PM, Urmas wrote: "Jay Lozier": Microsoft did not develop the first office productivity packages. There were no 'office packages' before Microsoft Office. Several predated any MS offerings and were available before the IBM-PC was released. They didn't design the first,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread Jay Lozier
On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 17:11 -0400, Fred James wrote: > Urmas wrote: > > "Jay Lozier": > > > >> Microsoft did not develop the first office productivity packages. > > > > There were no 'office packages' before Microsoft Office. > > > >> Several predated any MS offerings and were available before th

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread Fred James
Urmas wrote: "Jay Lozier": Microsoft did not develop the first office productivity packages. There were no 'office packages' before Microsoft Office. Several predated any MS offerings and were available before the IBM-PC was released. They didn't design the first, but they have designed

[libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread Urmas
"Jay Lozier": Microsoft did not develop the first office productivity packages. There were no 'office packages' before Microsoft Office. Several predated any MS offerings and were available before the IBM-PC was released. They didn't design the first, but they have designed the best. --

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread Jay Lozier
On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 15:20 -0400, James Knott wrote: > Urmas wrote: > > Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft > > Office? > > > > Microsoft mostly. > > IIRC, they bought what became Excel and I believe Word too, from other > companies. > Microsoft did not develop

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread James Knott
Urmas wrote: > Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft > Office? > > Microsoft mostly. IIRC, they bought what became Excel and I believe Word too, from other companies. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreo

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2013-11-02 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 11/02/2013 08:36 AM, Urmas wrote: > "Kracked_P_P---webmaster": > > 90% of the businesses users I know of use less than 10% of the features > and functions that MSO has. > > BTW, you know what one can do with Word 2.0 but not with > StarOffice-rebranded-for-a-third-time? Creating section template

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread Urmas
"Kracked_P_P---webmaster": 90% of the businesses users I know of use less than 10% of the features and functions that MSO has. BTW, you know what one can do with Word 2.0 but not with StarOffice-rebranded-for-a-third-time? Creating section templates, a rough analog of section styles. Because t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread Urmas
"Kracked_P_P---webmaster": MS was the bigest copycats there was back in the early days. They "stole" from any package that could get away with. I was working in the computer field when Apple came out with the first Mac, and then many of those ideas were used to make the first Windows OS. It is

[libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-01 Thread Urmas
"Les Howell": Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft Office? Microsoft mostly. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-01 Thread James Knott
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: > I was working in the computer field when Apple came out with the first > Mac, and then many of those ideas were used to make the first Windows > OS. Actually, Apple borrowed those ideas from Xerox. This is one reason why they lost the lawsuit against MS. Please d

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2013-11-01 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 11/01/2013 08:23 PM, Les Howell wrote: > On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 23:01 +0700, Urmas wrote: >> And that is great, as Microsoft Office is designed not by copycats, but for >> people who actually know what the Office is for. >> > Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-01 Thread Les Howell
On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 23:01 +0700, Urmas wrote: > And that is great, as Microsoft Office is designed not by copycats, but for > people who actually know what the Office is for. > Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft Office? Regards, Les H -- To unsubscribe

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2013-11-01 Thread Urmas
And that is great, as Microsoft Office is designed not by copycats, but for people who actually know what the Office is for. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines