Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Em Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:17:29 -0300, Angelo Turetta escreveu: I think what you ask is feasible: it's not that different from what is done by BeanEditForm, just the source of the field list is not determined by reflection but loaded from an external source. I agree it would be a nice additi

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread superoverdrive
It is 1:1 the text from the mailing list as far as I remember..just with a formatted table on the Wiki. So you mean it could work by extending BeanEdit Form? Anyway, so I think, considering the time to do this, it was a good decision to use Wicket for this part and T5 for the frontend part...s

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread Angelo Turetta
superoverdr...@gmx.de wrote: I have put it on the Wish List are there does not seem to be a solution yet? It's not actually evident what you added to that page, given superoverdrive <> Toby. For others' reference, your addition is: http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/WishList?action=diff&rev

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread superoverdrive
> Be sure it is well written. Sometimes there are some messages so badly > written or so vague that people just don't take the time to even > understand them. I think this should be clearly written: http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/WishList?highlight=(wishlist) I have put it on the Wish List

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Em Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:15:11 -0300, Tobias Marx escreveu: Yes, but Screencasts only show you easy examples you can do those do what you see in those screencasts and it works wonderfullybut then you want to move on and change something, e.g. additional columns in a table or dependin

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Em Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:03:04 -0300, Tobias Marx escreveu: I know many people who have started with Tapestry, but reached a point with "no solution" and resorted to another framework as they were in a hurry to "get it done". Did these people post their questions in the mailing list? Once

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread Tobias Marx
d, 21 Jan 2009 17:58:52 +0200 (EET) > Von: Peter Stavrinides > An: Tapestry users > Betreff: Re: [T5] improve documentation > > I know many people who have started with Tapestry, but reached a point > with "no solution" and resorted to another framework > I reac

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread Peter Stavrinides
om: "Tobias Marx" To: users@tapestry.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 21 January, 2009 17:03:04 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, Bucharest, Istanbul Subject: Re: [T5] improve documentation In the long-term it is better though if every developer provides an example to the code he has done. This w

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread Tobias Marx
ides > An: Tapestry users > Betreff: Re: [T5] improve documentation > >Everyone can contribute by writing an improvement > Absolutely! > > Tapestry is community driven with a small team of developers... they have > limited time and simply can't do it all. The documen

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread Peter Stavrinides
orut Bolčina [mailto:borut.bolc...@gmail.com] > Sent: 21 January 2009 08:58 > To: Tapestry users > Subject: Re: [T5] improve documentation > > Hi, > > also a guide/recipes/good practices/tips/chapter for converting JSP > applications to Tapestry 5 would be very welcome. At least

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread Ulrich Stärk
rk on it (I have no idea how it is going. Does anyone know?) Maybe a similar thing should be done w.r.t this current issue? c. -Original Message- From: Borut Bolčina [mailto:borut.bolc...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 January 2009 08:58 To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: [T5] improve documentatio

RE: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread Newham, Cameron
idea how it is going. Does anyone know?) Maybe a similar thing should be done w.r.t this current issue? c. -Original Message- From: Borut Bolčina [mailto:borut.bolc...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 January 2009 08:58 To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: [T5] improve documentation Hi, also a guide

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-21 Thread Borut Bolčina
Hi, also a guide/recipes/good practices/tips/chapter for converting JSP applications to Tapestry 5 would be very welcome. At least a paragraph clarifying questions like: "Can I have JSPs in my Tapestry 5 application or do I have to have two web applications talking somehow to each other?", "How to

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-20 Thread Otho
Totally right in my opinion. Tapestry is not very newbie friendly at first, but when you get a hang of it it beats every other framework I tried out by a large margin. At least for me. But some totally artificial or useless application which is just done to demonstrate all of the features won't hel

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-19 Thread Thiago HP
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Otho wrote: > Jumpstart is great, especially for looking some techniques up and see how > certain details are done. But does it really suit as a single Tutorial > application where you go from nil to something useable? I think both are very important: a cookbook

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-19 Thread Otho
etc). > > Peter > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Geoff Callender" > To: "Tapestry users" > Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 17:16:48 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, > Bucharest, Istanbul > Subject: Re: [T5] improve documentation > > I completel

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-19 Thread Peter Stavrinides
anything thats excess (EJB etc). Peter - Original Message - From: "Geoff Callender" To: "Tapestry users" Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 17:16:48 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, Bucharest, Istanbul Subject: Re: [T5] improve documentation I completely agree too. A se

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-18 Thread Geoff Callender
I completely agree too. A search facility of the existing site would be a huge leap forward. On 16/01/2009, at 9:23 AM, Szemere Szemere wrote: Completely agree with the sentiments expressed. Too often I've had to use Google or similar to find what I'm looking for in the Tapestry documentati

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-18 Thread Otho
I would prefer a prototypical community application to start the usual webapp. So user management, registration with email validation and capchas, profiles, user groups, fine grained security, optionally simplistic blogs, forums, pm's and a bit of content management etc. I tend to copy that stuff

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-16 Thread James Hillyerd
I quite like the existing tutorial, I was just disappointed it ended so abruptly. :) I think whatever docs come around in the future, they need to cover more on Encoders/Translators/Coercers - as that was one of the most difficult things for me to learn. Honestly, I still barely understand when

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-15 Thread Szemere Szemere
Completely agree with the sentiments expressed. Too often I've had to use Google or similar to find what I'm looking for in the Tapestry documentation. Having it split across at least 4 different places and in some places confused with Tapestry4 is awkward. Szemere

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-14 Thread Peter Stavrinides
bject: Re: RE: [T5] improve documentation Jumpstart would also be a good idea Original-Nachricht > Datum: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:22:13 - > Von: "Newham, Cameron" > An: "Tapestry users" > Betreff: RE: [T5] improve documentation > I secon

Re: RE: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-14 Thread superoverdrive
Jumpstart would also be a good idea Original-Nachricht > Datum: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:22:13 - > Von: "Newham, Cameron" > An: "Tapestry users" > Betreff: RE: [T5] improve documentation > I second this. > > I much prefer the &q

RE: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-14 Thread Newham, Cameron
ng solutions to common problems, and a bit more filling out. -Original Message- From: Andy Pahne [mailto:andy.pa...@googlemail.com] Sent: 13 January 2009 21:15 To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: [T5] improve documentation I'd prefer if it were more like jumpstart than petstore.

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-13 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: I have an idea for an application that can demonstrate every bit of Tapestry and be useful to boot. This is great news!!! As a struggling newbie this is exactly what I've been looking for. I will be eagerly awaiting it's development. Here are

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-13 Thread Andy Pahne
Just a few suggestions! Toby Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:15:44 -0800 Von: Howard Lewis Ship An: Tapestry users Betreff: Re: [T5] improve documentation I've been coming to the same conclusion. I'm clearing time with my boss to pursue

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-13 Thread superoverdrive
ng like this here: http://www.interiders.com/2008/02/11/prototextboxlist-meets-autocompletion/ and stuff like progress bars (e.g. during a search) Just a few suggestions! Toby Original-Nachricht > Datum: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:15:44 -0800 > Von: Howard Lewis Ship > An: Tapestry

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-13 Thread Ulrich Stärk
I'd be happy to help and contribute. Uli Howard Lewis Ship schrieb: I've been coming to the same conclusion. I'm clearing time with my boss to pursue this, along with several online articles. I have an idea for an application that can demonstrate every bit of Tapestry and be useful to boot.

Re: [T5] improve documentation

2009-01-13 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
I've been coming to the same conclusion. I'm clearing time with my boss to pursue this, along with several online articles. I have an idea for an application that can demonstrate every bit of Tapestry and be useful to boot. So the "guide" is the reference, what I have planned is the "tour". It w