Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-03 Thread Ed Durbrow
>Am Donnerstag, 3. Mˆ§rz 2005 17:58 schrieb David Cameron: >> I probably don't fully understand the problem, but it seems to me that >> smaller note symbols to indicate the pitch of the octave strings would do >> much of what is required. >> >.. which would help but the problem of voice leadings

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-03 Thread JEdwardsMusic
Regarding my last posting: It's David Grimes' books I was praising, not David Russell's. :) James -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-03 Thread JEdwardsMusic
In a message dated 3/3/2005 8:03:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do we feel about the methods of modern-notation transcription employed by, for example, Strizich, Pinnell, Russell, Pennington (I realize these are all Americans - sorry!). And just to clarify, I'm interest

RE: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-03 Thread David Cameron
om:David Cameron >> Sent:Thursday, March 3, 2005 10:58 AM >> To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu >> Subject: Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit. >> >> StanleyYates wrote: >> >> "Surely there is a better solution than simply writing

RE: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-03 Thread Yates, Stanley
(fax) > -- > From: David Cameron > Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2005 10:58 AM > To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit. > > StanleyYates wrote: > > "Surely there is a better solution than simply writing

RE: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-03 Thread Yates, Stanley
ut in practical terms... Stanley Yates www.StanleyYates.com > -- > From: Thomas Schall > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2005 10:44 AM > To: Yates, Stanley > Subject: Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit. > > Am Donnerstag, 3. Mä

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-03 Thread Thomas Schall
Am Donnerstag, 3. März 2005 17:58 schrieb David Cameron: > I probably don't fully understand the problem, but it seems to me that > smaller note symbols to indicate the pitch of the octave strings would do > much of what is required. > .. which would help but the problem of voice leadings which are

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-03 Thread David Cameron
StanleyYates wrote: "Surely there is a better solution than simply writing everything as if played on bordons with the disclaimer about where anything below a written G might actually sound..." I probably don't fully understand the problem, but it seems to me that smaller note symbols to indicate

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-03 Thread Stanley Yates
: "VihuelaList" Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 6:11 AM Subject: Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit. Hi Stanley and all, Although surely well meant, the earlier editions by Karl Scheidt and Hans Teuchert now seem inacceptable. I do well remember the answer when I asked why he omited

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-03 Thread Thomas Schall
ey > > Stanley Yates > www.StanleyYates.com > > > -- > > From: Rob MacKillop > > Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2005 1:55 AM > > To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu > > Subject:RE: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit. > > > > Stanle

RE: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-02 Thread Yates, Stanley
put some examples up when I get a few minutes. Stanley Stanley Yates www.StanleyYates.com > -- > From: Rob MacKillop > Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2005 1:55 AM > To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: RE: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit. > >

RE: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-01 Thread Rob MacKillop
Stanley, I can see the attraction of, say, a Mel Bay edition (Stanley Yates Series, of course!) of important works such as the Bartolotti - setting aside my reservations about playing this stuff on a modern classical guitar (better on a 12-string guitar...). So I'll try to clarify my thoughts. We

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-03-01 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: Sal Salvaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:31 pm Subject: Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit. > Robert Strizitch (sp) did a book of transcribed > DeVisee back in the 1970's. My recollection- been > about 5 y

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-02-28 Thread Sal Salvaggio
Robert Strizitch (sp) did a book of transcribed DeVisee back in the 1970's. My recollection- been about 5 years since I've seen the book- is that he used a lot of circled numbers for the strings. Difficult to look at and play on the baroque guitar though. Sal Salvaggio _

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-02-28 Thread Stanley Yates
James and Rob, Thanks for responding. For me, the main problem is that if one is going to take the considerable trouble of transcribing a tablature collection the result should be as multi-functional as possible. But how multi-functional can that be? Obviously, as Ron pointed out, five-course gu

RE: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-02-28 Thread Rob MacKillop
odern Notation of Five-Course Lit. I can't remember if we can send attachments; but I'll try to attach a piece that I've done on Finale. James To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-02-28 Thread JEdwardsMusic
Well, any notation which doesn't represent exact pitch is in essence tabulature. Yes, as I mentioned in my e-mail; it would be "tablature disguised as modern notation". The tablature manuscripts themselves don't always give you a clear idea of the stringing intended, which determines actual p

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-02-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Which in itself is scordatura, i.e. another form of tabulature. > Sorry, I don't get your point here. > James Well, any notation which doesn't represent exact pitch is in essence tabulature. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmou

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-02-28 Thread JEdwardsMusic
In a message dated 2/28/2005 11:03:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which in itself is scordatura, i.e. another form of tabulature. Sorry, I don't get your point here. James -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/i

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-02-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
> In my many years teaching and arranging experience, I have to say that the > most difficult instrument to transform into a classical guitar, is the > baroque guitar. Piano music, lute music, even orchestral music can sound > fine on the classical guitar, but Baroque guitar music NEVER sounds good

RE: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-02-28 Thread Rob MacKillop
Hi Stanley, Thanks for your contributions to this site... IMHO it all depends on who the transcription is aimed at. Players of baroque guitars don't need a transcription - obvious. Players of classical guitars would need a different transcription from those who maybe don't play a guitar of any so

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-02-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
> In a message dated 2/28/2005 7:57:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Following on from the tuning / stringing discussion, I'm curious to know > what folks think about standard notation transcription of five-course > tablatures - how to deal with unknown tunings, octave st

Re: Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-02-28 Thread JEdwardsMusic
In a message dated 2/28/2005 7:57:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Following on from the tuning / stringing discussion, I'm curious to know what folks think about standard notation transcription of five-course tablatures - how to deal with unknown tunings, octave stringing,

Modern Notation of Five-Course Lit.

2005-02-28 Thread Stanley Yates
Following on from the tuning / stringing discussion, I'm curious to know what folks think about standard notation transcription of five-course tablatures - how to deal with unknown tunings, octave stringing, imperfect/suggested counterpoint, etc. Stanley -- Stanley Yates http://www.StanleyYates.