Re: Musings on: Energy Gravity and Acceleration

2004-07-23 Thread Edmund Storms
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/23/2004 4:49:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   Or maybe it's the other way around! I get soo confused when I think about gravity vs. acceleration!   You are not wrong.  Gravity produces a force.  GM/rr This sounds like ci

Re: One Wire Electronic Secrets Used In Tesla Energy Transmitters & Receivers

2004-07-23 Thread Baronvolsung
In a message dated 7/22/04 3:28:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we were to construct a diamagnetic oscillator and place it into a cellular phone like device with a vortex antenna, which broadcasts media or communication vortex energy wave signals in the 70 to 90 mV range

RE: WSCI: Just how ab initio is ab initio quantum chemistry?

2004-07-23 Thread Grimer
>. and the theories are held together by bailing wire >and bubblegum. (Actually, "bailing wire . . ." is how I put it. That's an >Americanism, I believe. I am not sure how the Brits say it.) > >- Jed "held together with sticks and string." 8-) Grimer

FW: WHAT'S NEW Friday, July 23, 2004

2004-07-23 Thread Akira Kawasaki
> From: What's New <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Akira Kawasaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 7/23/2004 12:54:47 PM Subject: WHAT'S NEW Friday, July 23, 2004 WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 23 Jul 04 Washington, DC Paul Gresser contributed to this week's issue of What's New. 1. SPACE: J

Re: FORCE - who needs it!

2004-07-23 Thread Grimer
At 04:44 pm 23-07-04 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 7/23/2004 2:47:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> Well, to be frank, solids are not held together by glue. >> And dust is not sucked up by vacuum cleaners. Solids are held together >> at the first scale of scrutiny

RE: WSCI: Just how ab initio is ab initio quantum chemistry?

2004-07-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michael Foster writes: > This is a trend in the sciences in general, but I find it particularly > annoying in chemistry. You have a trend toward computerizing > everything. Hence, you get chemistry without chemicals, botany > without flowers . . . Yes, this is deplorable. > Yes, no doubt this fin

RE: Musings on: Energy Gravity and Acceleration

2004-07-23 Thread Johnson, Steven
Hi Frank, >>Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: >Frank Z wrote: >>Or maybe it's the other way around! I get soo confused when I think >>about gravity vs. acceleration! >You are not wrong. Gravity produces a force. GM/rr >Force produces gravity >Gravity = (G/ccr) (dp/dt) > >Why is this? Gravit

Re: the 'Farside Criteria' for CF

2004-07-23 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Steven, > In layman's terms you saying the density of deuterons in a loaded Pd sample (at 1:1) > is FAR MORE dense than the equivalent number of deuterons being contained within a > hot-fusion process? Yes, the plasma density of hot fusion would be in the range of 10^14 while the Pd matrix

Re: WAY OFF TOPIC Lily Tomlin's "Ernestine" routine

2004-07-23 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
I agree. "The President's Analyst" (James Coburn, 1967) is one of my favorite movies. There are so many subtleties in it you could see it 20 times and not catch them all, e.g. look away from the main action like in the upper corners of the images to see interesting things happening, or listen c

Re: Musings on: Energy Gravity and Acceleration

2004-07-23 Thread FZNIDARSIC
In a message dated 7/23/2004 4:49:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or maybe it's the other way around! I get soo confused when I think about gravity vs. acceleration! You are not wrong.  Gravity produces a force.  GM/rr Force produces gravity Gravity = (G/ccr) (dp/dt

Re: Pure Energy Systems

2004-07-23 Thread FZNIDARSIC
In a message dated 7/23/2004 2:36:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we are in a uniform gravitational field, how would you detect it?  In other words, if the ZPE is uniform in all directions, its gravitational influence would cancel. Ed The age of the Universe based and

Musings on: Energy Gravity and Acceleration

2004-07-23 Thread Johnson, Steven
FWIW, Concerning recent debates having to do with energy, gravity, and the phenomenon of "bending": One should not forget famous the relativity thought experiment consisting of a rocket ship accelerating through outer space far away from the influences of astronomical gravity fields. Assume the

Re: FORCE - who needs it!

2004-07-23 Thread FZNIDARSIC
In a message dated 7/23/2004 2:47:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, to be frank, solids are not held together by glue. And dust is not sucked up by vacuum cleaners. Solids are held together at the first scale of scrutiny by the difference in stress of the Beta atmosphere

WAY OFF TOPIC Lily Tomlin's "Ernestine" routine

2004-07-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
For anyone of a certain age who has ever been in the telephone business, there are two supremely funny comedies from the now distant Bell monopoly era. One was the movie "The President's Analyst" and the other was Lily Tomlin's "Ernestine" routine, which still breaks me up after 30 years. A des

Re: FORCE - who needs it!

2004-07-23 Thread Grimer
At 08:12 am 23-07-04 -0600, you wrote: >Interesting idea, Frank. Now let me ask some questions. How does strain >deflect the path of an electron? How does strain accelerate a rocket? How >does strain keep us attracted to the earth? How does strain provide the glue >that creates a solid from at

Re: Pure Energy Systems

2004-07-23 Thread Edmund Storms
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/23/2004 12:39:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   Presumably the ZPE is part of the universe just like the mass we see. Yes, that is true.  Given that, we could detect it due to its gravitational influence.  Hubble's red shift

Re: Pure Energy Systems

2004-07-23 Thread FZNIDARSIC
In a message dated 7/23/2004 12:39:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as I know, no unambiguous experimental observation shows that energy in any form acts like mass or would exhibit detectable gravity if in a high enough concentration.  I have went down this path quit

Re: Pure Energy Systems

2004-07-23 Thread FZNIDARSIC
In a message dated 7/23/2004 12:39:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Presumably the ZPE is part of the universe just like the mass we see. Yes, that is true.  Given that, we could detect it due to its gravitational influence.  Hubble's red shift would be much greater.  We do

RE: the 'Farside Criteria' for CF

2004-07-23 Thread Johnson, Steven
Hi Jones, A littler bird hopped onto my shoulder and suggested I take a closer look at your most recent essay. > From: Jones Beene > > ...Friday Fractured Farside Fusion funniness ... As always, great political satire here. ... > Density (particles/cm3) x Time (sec) = 10^16 > (Deuterium-Deute

Re: Pure Energy Systems

2004-07-23 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed Rothwell wrote: > Edmund Storms writes: > > > Mass and energy are only equivalent when energy is converted to > mass. When energy > > exists only as energy, it does not have the property of mass. > > That would be potential energy, I suppose, and my understanding is that it > does have ma

Re: the 'Farside Criteria' for CF

2004-07-23 Thread Jones Beene
ooopsentropy at work in honor of that "other Lawson" should be Larson, as in Gary Larson, a guy that knows few laws

Re: the 'Farside Criteria' for CF

2004-07-23 Thread Terry Blanton
Jones Beene wrote: PPS and quote of the day...speaking of yellow-tail (hamachi), my new favorite food after giving up burgers... Well, don't get too hooked on fish: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5428979/ "With a single bluefin worth as much as $150,000 on the Tokyo market, Italian and Russian organi

Re: FORCE - who needs it!

2004-07-23 Thread Edmund Storms
Interesting idea, Frank. Now let me ask some questions. How does strain deflect the path of an electron? How does strain accelerate a rocket? How does strain keep us attracted to the earth? How does strain provide the glue that creates a solid from atoms? Ed Grimer wrote: >

the 'Farside Criteria' for CF

2004-07-23 Thread Jones Beene
...Friday Fractured Farside Fusion funniness ...   Fusion takes place in our sun and other stars at temperatures of millions of degrees Celsius, where hydrogen is converted to helium and so on. In order to accomplish fusion, the protons involved must overcome electrostatic repulsion to get c