*Tencent may have accidentally leaked real data on Wuhan virus deaths*
*Tencent briefly lists 154,023 infections and 24,589 deaths from Wuhan
coronavirus*
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594
This report indicates there may be 25,000 dead. I think such large numbers
would impossible to cover up. They could only be dealt with by mass burials
with machinery, like after a large battle in war. Most people in China
nowadays have cell phones with cameras. Photos and accounts would circulate.
The normal death rate for China before this tragedy is at least 2.1 %
according to Wiki the wise. The population of Wuhan alone is over 11 million.
(I had no idea it was that large).
Thus in a normal year the local infrastructure handles over 230,000 deaths.
Presumably most deaths are followe
Well, there was this study where 15% died:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext
Seems that the rate could be 15-30% rather than the 2.3% that has been promoted.
Given the HUGE 85% infection rate (85% exposed become infected) this
could, if it breaks a
Jones Beene wrote:
The normal death rate for China before this tragedy is at least 2.1 %
> according to Wiki the wise.
>
That seems high. Wouldn't that mean the average lifespan is 48 years? It is
78 years, and the median age is 37, so I don't see how 2.1% per year could
be dying. See:
https://
Yes 2.1 deaths per hundred Chinese (from all causes) is two high - that figure
was from the 1960s and they have made great progress since then, but the
conclusion that the rate presently due to coronavirus is much higher (than
being officially admitted) may be valid since the deaths quoted in Te
I wrote:
> I am pretty sure news of it would leak out. Many dreadful false rumors are
> spreading. News that is both dreadful and true would leak out, I think.
>
Just now, Chinese and world mass media reported:
A doctor who was among the first to warn about the coronavirus outbreak,
only to be
Jones Beene wrote:
> The population for China is over 1.4 billion. Thus, in a normal year with
> normal flu rates, they would expect more than 10 million deaths from all
> causes.
>
> Since there are normally almost one million deaths per month in China
> expected - and being dealt with by the c
The problem is that people are dying in their homes undiagnosed. There are
several stories of people seeking help for a family member and, finding no
hospital beds available, they take them home to die. It reminds me of a
song called "Two Tribes (Annihilation)" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood:
(If
Also, I recall the scene in "Contagion" (2011) where Matt Damon is trying
to arrange for the burial of his wife, one of the first victims of the
pandemic; and, the hospital informs him that the "government directive" is
that all victims of the virus are to be cremated.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:53
But you are saying it can't be true because it would have leaked out...
But it HAS leaked out!
Also, there is a difference between tryig to cover up a single item of
news .vs covering up a statistic which is kinda easy to cover up.
And the number of dead is hardly huge by the numbers involved in
https://www.ccn.com/alleged-tencent-leak-suggests-coronavirus-death-toll-spiraling-to-25000/
This has additional links to other videos:
There have been multiple reports of Wuhan officials cremating deceased
coronavirus victims before they could be added to the official death
toll. The Wall Stree
Some good news:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/08/misinformation-coronavirus-contagious-infections
and some not so good:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7980883/Video-shows-officials-protective-suits-dragging-suspected-coronavirus-carriers-homes.html
>
If it's just a slightly worse flu, these would be bizarre
over-reactions from a Government that was initially very laidback.
At any rate I wrote this last night and am sending the almost still up
to date figures now:
Infected:
37,553 nowish
30,000 2 days ago
20,000 5 days ago
Despite the efforts
In reply to Jonathan Berry's message of Mon, 10 Feb 2020 07:44:04 +1300:
Hi,
Note that when deriving the mortality rate, one needs to take into account the
time it takes an average victim to die.
E.g. if that is 2 weeks, then the deaths now need to be compared with the
number of people that wer
wrote:
> Also the numbers are too low because of people that are infected and die
> away from medical care and thus don't get
> included in the statistics.
>
The number of people who die is too low for this reason. But, the number of
people who get sick and get no medical care is far higher tha
Further support for the potential that it's worse than we know...
https://www.ccn.com/coronavirus-death-smog-is-china-burning-thousands-of-infected-bodies/
Data has suggested a massive amount of sulfur dioxide is being
released into the air. Sulfur concentration is especially high around
Wuhan and
One crematorium manager told a Hong Kong reporter that, in normal
times, his 24 ovens were lit five days a week for four hours at a
time. Now, he said, they have so many corpses to deal with that all
the ovens are going around the clock.
(not sure if this is the same man as above or an independent
Jonathan Berry wrote:
> Along with the lockdown and arrests... Welding building shut...
>
> If the Virus isn't higher than 2-3% fatality, then I think they are
> probably using it as an excuse to kill off some of their population
> under the guise of a virus.
>
Such things are not happening, b
Yes, but again there IS such a rumor.
And I was thinking about it and it wouldn't be that hard to cover it
up to a degree, if you consider that a lot of people who would miss a
particular victim are now also dead.
Consider a network of interconnected nodes with more local than
distant connections
Similar virus have surface persistence of 5 days.
https://mbio.asm.org/content/6/6/e01697-15
Always know the source of your Amazon shipments. :)
>
>
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10933910/china-accused-major-coronavirus-cover-up-chilling-satellite-pics/
You can see the SO2 levels in the map...
Ok, let's consider, I just read that 1% of people in the US are
hospitalized with the flu.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-does-the-new-
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/coronavirus-in-china-20-million-quarantined-2-8-million-infected-112-000-dead
Maybe people are dying because there is no food, no trucks allowed in
to bring it?! Admittedly I wouldn't expect people to be dead yet in
any real numbe
In reply to Jonathan Berry's message of Wed, 12 Feb 2020 13:18:50 +1300:
Hi,
[snip]
>https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/coronavirus-in-china-20-million-quarantined-2-8-million-infected-112-000-dead
>
>Maybe people are dying because there is no food, no trucks allowed
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:19 PM Jonathan Berry wrote:
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https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/coronavirus-in-china-20-million-quarantined-2-8-million-infected-112-000-dead
Not the best of sources
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner
but doesn't mean it isn't tr
A very good video on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrqRAtViUZw
Warning, vaccines might make it worse!
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 3:17 PM Terry Blanton wrote:
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> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:19 PM Jonathan Berry wrote:
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> > https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-pag
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