RE: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 15/12/2010 Narayan Aras wrote: > Oracle Open Office offers update. > Their marketing brochure actually boasts of large savings based on > this single difference. > So why does LibO not talk about "online updates" as a development goal > at all?? > Also, since Oracle OO also is open source, adopt

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-21 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Narayan, * Narayan Aras schrieb: Sophie Gautier wrote: Hmm, I think you are missing something : it is not sure that admins of existing users forums (eg. http://user.services.openoffice.org/fr/forum/index.php) will want to leave OpenOffice.org infrastructure. These forums are intended to pro

RE: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-20 Thread Narayan Aras
> Le 15/12/2010 06:20, Narayan Aras a écrit : > > Hi Sophie, > >> [...] > >> we have a lot of legacy data, so this is very important to take them in > >> consideration. This is an important knowledge base. > > Well, I hope Michael is aware of this data and its old format. > > If the idea is to ma

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi, Le 15/12/2010 06:20, Narayan Aras a écrit : > Hi Sophie, >> [...] >> we have a lot of legacy data, so this is very important to take them in >> consideration. This is an important knowledge base. > Well, I hope Michael is aware of this data and its old format. > If the idea is to make is avai

Personal Statement (was: Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?)

2010-12-15 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi all, sorry ... I seem to be a bit lost at the moment. To be honest, I neither have the technical competence, nor do I know all the details with regard to our community processes. What I currently perceive is, that there is a discussion covering "Silverstripe" and "Drupal" and some decisions /

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-15 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi David, *, On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:01 AM, David Nelson wrote: > > There is also the question of who would administer a Drupal site. I'm > not currently aware of any candidates with the right profile, unless > Christian was willing to do it. I don't think the administration part would cause

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-15 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Michael, *, On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Michael Wheatland wrote: > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Christian Lohmaier > wrote: > >> And yes, you got input from various groups that in part already use >> drupal for their work and stuff, but still this is hardly "the >> community". > > I

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-15 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) There is also the question of who would administer a Drupal site. I'm not currently aware of any candidates with the right profile, unless Christian was willing to do it. Administering one of TDF's Web resources requires a lot of technical knowledge and experience. It's not the same as si

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-15 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > And yes, you got input from various groups that in part already use > drupal for their work and stuff, but still this is hardly "the > community". If you can suggest more ways to get feedback than the mailing lists and the wiki I am al

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-15 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Michael Wheatland wrote: > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Sophie Gautier > wrote: > [...] > We will never force anyone to do anything. In my mind, once the Drupal > development is complete and implemented then people will want to move > tools. Then they

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-14 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: > So it will be the end of the topic for me because you don't want to > understand: how will you recruit the hundred of contributors currently > taking care of the forums if they don't want to be force to use Drupal? Will > you tell them that

RE: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-14 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi Sophie, > > Of course, I am not suggesting that users should be forced to use a > > tool that does not fit their needs. > > a small difference here, it's not users but contributors, just a small > difference I used the word "user" to mean readers and contributors. :) > > Why don't we try o

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-14 Thread Sophie Gautier
On 15/12/2010 08:00, Michael Wheatland wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi Narayan, Of course, I am not suggesting that users should be forced to use a tool that does not fit their needs. a small difference here, it's not users but contributors, just a small d

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-14 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Hi Narayan, >> Of course, I am not suggesting that users should be forced to use a >> tool that does not fit their needs. > > a small difference here, it's not users but contributors, just a small > difference I disagree, we should not be

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-14 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Narayan, On 14/12/2010 19:52, Narayan Aras wrote: Hi Sophie, What is wrong in using a new powerful tool that gives many more facilities compared to the old tool? nothing at all, provided every body has the same access the old one provided. Of course, I am not suggesting that users shoul

RE: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-14 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi Sophie, What is wrong in using a new powerful tool that gives many more facilities compared to the old tool? Of course, I am not suggesting that users should be forced to use a tool that does not fit their needs. Why don't we try out a small pilot project and get the early user feedback, a

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-14 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Michael, On 14/12/2010 08:49, Michael Wheatland wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: There is already forum that exist and they use phpBB technology for some or may be most of them. Drew has the knowledge here. For the French speaking one, it will be linked on our s

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-13 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: > There is already forum that exist and they use phpBB technology for some or > may be most of them. Drew has the knowledge here. > For the French speaking one, it will be linked on our support page once the > final version is announced becaus

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-13 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Narayan, On 13/12/2010 08:10, Narayan Aras wrote: Hi Michael, Why does it not have blogs, wiki and forum? (they get filled up by visitors; not content-writers.) A forum and heavily integrated communication and support system is coming with Drupal which will support communication through

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Narayan Aras wrote: > So, rather than adding features in SilverStripe, it may be better to populate > it with static contents. This is what is currently happening with the exception of the download page which is custom coded in Silverstripe. We will rebuild this

RE: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi Michael, > > Why does it not have blogs, wiki and forum? (they get filled up by > > visitors; not content-writers.) > > A forum and heavily integrated communication and support system is > coming with Drupal which will support communication through mailing > list, forum and XML. I am not su

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Narayan Aras wrote: > Why does it not have blogs, wiki and forum? (they get filled up by visitors; > not content-writers.) A forum and heavily integrated communication and support system is coming with Drupal which will support communication through mailing list

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Sophie Gautier wrote: > We are a very very large > community and hence have very different needs, QA, l10, docs come at the > topf of my mind. Our community is not new, it comes with a past of work > and usage. I agree with this. The OpenOffice.org volunteers now employ dozens of tools, see sli

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi, On 12/12/2010 19:33, Narayan Aras wrote: Hi Christian, That there has not been much content on the site surely is not the fault of silverstripe. I'm very disappointed about this as well, but the reason is that almost nobody did provide content to put up on the site. Frankly I don't un

RE: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi Christian, > That there has not been much content on the site surely is not the > fault of silverstripe. I'm very disappointed about this as well, but > the reason is that almost nobody did provide content to put up on the site. Frankly I don't understand why the site should have almost no

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Carlos Jenkins
2010/12/12 Carlos Jenkins > [OT] > > Michael, > > Did you upgrade lately the Drupal modules base? The Image Resize filter is > broken, I'm disabling it for now while I check what happened. > > Kind regards > Fixed, was a configuration parameter. Kind regards -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Carlos Jenkins
[OT] Michael, Did you upgrade lately the Drupal modules base? The Image Resize filter is broken, I'm disabling it for now while I check what happened. Kind regards -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Carlos Jenkins
Hi David, 2010/12/12 David Nelson > If you look at this comparative table [1], SilverStripe actually > scores better than Drupal... > [1] > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms#Preconditions_to_go_live_with_one_of_the_CMS Look again ;) If questions go to ht

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 21:41, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > You're a couple of months late. We had that discussion already. and > silverstripe does meet all relevant needs. > >> Can SilverStripe or Drupal meet these needs better? >> I have not seen any study put on line. If you look at th

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Narayan, *, On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Narayan Aras wrote: > [...] > It is difficult to believe that both sites are the result of the same > product-brief. > One of them is clearly not meeting the customer's intrinsic needs. The drupal development should focus about the technical aspec

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, Am 12.12.2010 08:54, schrieb Narayan Aras: > >> If you want to see the current state of the Silverstripe site, look at >> http://www.test.libreoffice.org. > > I did, and was surprised by lack of progress there. Yes. Me too, I am disappointed about that. But you and me and anybody else shou

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-12 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, little corrections Am 12.12.2010 08:54, schrieb Michael Wheatland: > To summarise the official plan for the LibreOffice.org domain: > Now: Static HTML (Implemented through GIT) Now: not existent - redirection to the TDF website, which is static HTML. The TDF site will stay, after the redir

RE: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-11 Thread Narayan Aras
> If you want to see the current state of the Silverstripe site, look at > http://www.test.libreoffice.org. I did, and was surprised by lack of progress there. Since it the "rapid-deployment" system, it should have all contents by now. It should have been hosting the interactive content too. (

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-11 Thread Michael Wheatland
I hope this clears things up for you Narayan, I think you may be getting confused about the project teams (documentation team) choice to use the Drupal site as their development tool. To summarise the official plan for the LibreOffice.org domain: Now: Static HTML (Implemented through GIT) Very so

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-11 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, Am 12.12.2010 07:55, schrieb Narayan Aras: > On the other hand, SilverStripe site is more about "us" (but yet the ODF > is not promoted as a brand - It is about personalities). > > The LibreOffice comes in the picture only in the third menu. No, no, no. You are completely misunderstanding.

RE: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-11 Thread Narayan Aras
ll required inputs provided to each stakeholder in just the right format. Can SilverStripe or Drupal meet these needs better? I have not seen any study put on line. Regards, -Narayan > From: comme...@traduction.biz > Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 13:53:59 +0800 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-we

Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-11 Thread David Nelson
Hi Narayan, :-) On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 13:39, Narayan Aras wrote: > Recently David has pointed out that the LibreOffice leadership has not > decided anything about the Drupal site. > (He cites Steering Committee MoMs that there are no plans to migrate to a > Drupal site). I think you'd better

[libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-11 Thread Narayan Aras
Hi all, Recently David has pointed out that the LibreOffice leadership has not decided anything about the Drupal site. (He cites Steering Committee MoMs that there are no plans to migrate to a Drupal site). Michael on the other hand believes that a Silverstripe site is only temporary (except