Re: [XeTeX] TECkit map for Latin alphabet to Unicode IPA

2011-10-30 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/10/30 Daniel Greenhoe dgreen...@gmail.com: On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Andy Lin kir...@gmail.com wrote: This is actually the reason I abandoned developing the map file further. I had started based on the textipa replacements that I knew, and then I discovered all the additional

Re: [XeTeX] TECkit map for Latin alphabet to Unicode IPA

2011-10-30 Thread Daniel Greenhoe
2011/10/30 Zdenek Wagner zdenek.wag...@gmail.com: It depends... In Linux you can define your own xkb map and thus have all accents on your keyboard. It is possible to define macros in emacs ... Thank you for your feedback. However, I was not referring to keyboard input methods, I meant how do

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread Vafa Khalighi
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Paul Isambert zappathus...@free.fr wrote: Le 30/10/2011 06:25, Vafa Khalighi a écrit : XeTeX font support is heaps better and stable than what luaotfload package offers and I guess that is why many users still like using xetex instead luatex. I personally

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread Vafa Khalighi
The problem is, it's easier to blame luaotfload for its uncertain status than to sit down and write a replacement; so please let's not forget that without luaotfload LuaTeX wouldn't be different from PDFTeX as far as fonts are concerned. That was not what I was trying to convey. What I

Re: [XeTeX] TECkit map for Latin alphabet to Unicode IPA

2011-10-30 Thread Ross Moore
On 30/10/2011, at 8:11 PM, Daniel Greenhoe wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Peter Dyballa peter_dyba...@web.de wrote: With COMBINING RING BELOW, U+0325? Yes --- How do I in general put, for example, U+0325 below U+0062, while still maintaining proper alignment (e.g. the bottom of

Re: [XeTeX] TECkit map for Latin alphabet to Unicode IPA

2011-10-30 Thread Daniel Greenhoe
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Ross Moore ross.mo...@mq.edu.au wrote: With Xunicode loaded, does this not do what you want? c\textsubring{b}c On ctan at http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/xetex/latex/xunicode there is no documentation about xunicode other than a brief readme. Is there

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 04:25:21PM +1100, Vafa Khalighi wrote: XeTeX font support is heaps better and  stable than what luaotfload package  offers and I guess that is why many users still like using xetex instead luatex. I personally believe that it is a bad practice that luaotfload just

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 04:25:21PM +1100, Vafa Khalighi wrote: XeTeX font support is heaps better and  stable than what luaotfload package offers and I guess that is why many users still like using xetex instead

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Future state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread BPJ
On 2011-10-28 21:02, Zdenek Wagner wrote: 2011/10/28msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011, William Adams wrote: majority of documents are created using GUI tools. What use cases are better served by batch mode, and in what cases is TeX used by default because of available GUI tools

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread Paul Isambert
Le 30/10/2011 13:20, George N. White III a écrit : On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: Writing an OpenType layout engine is not a simple task, and you can judge from the many years it toke FOSS community to have a really good one, HarfBuzz (the name

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread Petr Tomasek
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 04:29:18PM +0100, Paul Isambert wrote: Le 30/10/2011 13:20, George N. White III a écrit : On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: Writing an OpenType layout engine is not a simple task, and you can judge from the many years it

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread Petr Tomasek
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 09:20:19AM -0300, George N. White III wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 04:25:21PM +1100, Vafa Khalighi wrote: XeTeX font support is heaps better and  stable than what luaotfload package offers

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread Vafa Khalighi
Are you talking about TeX--XeT bidirectional typesetting algorithm? No, It has several major bugs and it is not perfect for RTL typesetting (ok but not perfect). On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Petr Tomasek toma...@etf.cuni.cz wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 09:20:19AM -0300, George N. White

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread Petr Tomasek
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 03:29:30AM +1100, Vafa Khalighi wrote: Are you talking about TeX--XeT bidirectional typesetting algorithm? Sorry that was a typo, am using a slow connection and a mutt on a server over ssh... No, It has several major bugs and it is not perfect for RTL typesetting (ok

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread Paul Isambert
Le 30/10/2011 17:20, Petr Tomasek a écrit : On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 04:29:18PM +0100, Paul Isambert wrote: Le 30/10/2011 13:20, George N. White III a écrit : On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Khaled Hosnykhaledho...@eglug.org wrote: Writing an OpenType layout engine is not a simple task, and

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 05:18:18PM +0100, Petr Tomasek wrote: Actually, I think little people need more then than what XeTTeX acctually provides... 640kb ought to be enough for anybody. -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.:

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Khaled Hosny wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 05:18:18PM +0100, Petr Tomasek wrote: Actually, I think little people need more then than what XeTTeX acctually provides... 640kb ought to be enough for anybody. I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-30 Thread Herbert Schulz
On Oct 30, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 05:18:18PM +0100, Petr Tomasek wrote: Actually, I think little people need more then than what XeTTeX acctually provides... 640kb ought to be enough for anybody. I

Re: [XeTeX] TECkit map for Latin alphabet to Unicode IPA

2011-10-30 Thread Ross Moore
Hello Daniel, On 30/10/2011, at 21:41, Daniel Greenhoe dgreen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Ross Moore ross.mo...@mq.edu.au wrote: With Xunicode loaded, does this not do what you want? c\textsubring{b}c On ctan at

Re: [XeTeX] TECkit map for Latin alphabet to Unicode IPA

2011-10-30 Thread Andy Lin
I second looking through xunicode.sty. Most of the tipa commands are the same, although a couple were altered, as precedence was given to the math symbols (I think). The comments in file explain why a particular command was assign to a particular character in these cases, and IIRC, tell you what