Re: [313] festivals clubs rules
Re: do you have such stuff in your country or town? police entering the party area and searching people, by the way clubs are open only until 04:00 AM in istanbul turgan It's definitely not unheard of, though the searching of people might be a bit excessive depending on how many people were searched and for what reasons of course (but I'm sure the laws governing what the police can and can't do is different in the US). In Minneapolis, Minnesota, most parties are cleared ahead of time with the local police force and they have fully sanctioned professional security companies present along with at least a handful of rather large police officers. It doesn't detract too much from the events as long as you're not trying to smoke up in the event area. Clubs in Minneapolis are only open until 3 AM and you can't purchase an alcoholic drink after 1 AM so you have a better situation as far as how late you can go in a club. Oh yeah, the music in the clubs kinda sucks in my town too. Fred . Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
HERBERT
does anyone know who WISHMOUNDAIN is. i was told it was HERBERT but im not sure. anyone care to list some of there favorite herbert tracks??? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] HERBERT
Yes, it's Matthew Herbert From: ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] HERBERT Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:23:39 CDT does anyone know who WISHMOUNDAIN is. i was told it was HERBERT but im not sure. anyone care to list some of there favorite herbert tracks??? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] HERBERT
Wishmountain is Herbert. So Is Radioboy, and Dr. Rockit. ryan burns wrote: does anyone know who WISHMOUNDAIN is. i was told it was HERBERT but im not sure. anyone care to list some of there favorite herbert tracks??? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] dj mix online just for you
Please don't re-encode that as real audio.. even though I d'led the mix, it wont do it justice... unless you can do a lower bitrate mp3-wise... /home/lunarpark-1/Jim J. - Original Message - From: mkarora [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter B Leidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 5:08 AM Subject: Re: [313] dj mix online just for you hey pete, you can put this up as real audio, you can have it stream/download from your ifs space.. let me know if you're interested. -m (smaller/easier for listeners... u know the deal) ps. when are we gonna start doing web stuff? On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Peter B Leidy wrote: hi people, sorry if this is OT/ or self promotional. but i was bored at work today so i thought i would make my first attempt at putting a mix online. this ones electro w/ a bit o' techno, hopefully more to come soon. I wanted to put in in mp3 (plus i dont have a realaudio server) so this is a whopping 51megs -hope you have a speedy connection. see tracklisting below and enjoy :]
Re: [313] HERBERT
my favourite herbert track is 'take me back' a minimal, growling bass line number. it's on phono. but i don't know which one. james ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/10/2000 07:23:39 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: [313] HERBERT does anyone know who WISHMOUNDAIN is. i was told it was HERBERT but im not sure. anyone care to list some of there favorite herbert tracks??? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Postmodern lyrics in music these days [Was Re: [313] DJ Spooky/Dave Clarke]
Can anyone think of contemporary artists who use postmodern thought to good effect in their music today? Skinny Puppy did it well once and you could make the argument that Stereolab is messing around with French philosophy. I'm having trouble thinking of many other artists who do it well, or who actually have any of the philosophical background to understand the concepts beneath the surface. It's been my experience that a lot of people skip straight to the recent thought (I tried it and realized I should probably go back and get the background before plungeing in), and miss a whole lot of philosophical/psychological/anthropological history in the process. I've also noticed that at least at the University of Iowa, the philosophy department seems to avoid postmodern continental thought focusing on contemporary Anglo-American philosophy, whereas most criticism programs skip the philosophy and head straight into the newer stuff. Probably a huge factor... Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, Québécois, online now. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [313] DJ Spooky/Dave Clarke On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Cyclone Wehner wrote: I've seen him and he was OK - he did this live double-bass thing as well, not a great DJ, but the concept was interesting. Spooky doesn't see himself as mainstream at all, in fact he gets a lot of flack for his intellectual approach from the NY establishment. He sees it like, why can't an African-American man be an intellectual, a conceptualist, I don't want to do what the mainstream deems to be 'Black music' like gangsta rap or whatever. He is big on contemporary French philosophy (more influential than you'd think) and sees himself as intervening in those discourses. I think this is how he sees himself. But in discussions with him in another email forum (dedicated to the idea of afrofuturism) I've come to the conclusion that he's running the DJ equivalent of a Proudhon scam. Proudhon was a French philosopher cum activist who, when with philosophers would tout his activist credentials, and when with activists would tout his philosophy credentials. But Karl Marx peeped that he was actually NEITHER--his thoughts weren't that deep, and he simply wasn't doing any activist work, just faking it. I suspect that when he's with DJ's what he's really trying to claim is his reading of Marcuse, or Foucault, or even Crusebut when he's with intellectuals, he's trying to claim his status as a DJ. But when I've tried to talk to him about the intellectual end...his ideas are shallow at best. He ends up losing in the long run because in the end his body of work won't be worth noting in either categorybut in the short run he gets PAID. peace lks --- Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assistant Professor, Political Science Washington University at St. Louis We illuminate the contradictions and call it the light --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] Carl Craig Friends in NYC 7.13.00
I believe the mix you're referring to is the C2 (Carl Craig) Remix. Welcome back to 313 land! Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, Québécois, online now. -Original Message- From: Andrew Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [313] Carl Craig Friends in NYC 7.13.00 speaking of Carl Craig and Innerzone Orchestra, I just found (and purchased) a white label of the People Make The World Go Round remixes (the first round). I'm sick with the flu as I type this so hope this makes sense: if the side that introduces Norma Jean Bell and KDJ etc is the KDJ mix, who is the mix on the other side by? (this copy is unlabelled and/or mislabelled). Thanks in advance. Andrew Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For you New Yorkers out there, I thought you might want to check this... Carl Craig Friends (featuring members of Innerzone Orchestra) plus opening act @ The Knitting Factory Doors at 9pm Tickets are $15.00 The Carl Craig Friends performance takes the far reaches of what Innerzone Orchestra is and leaps further out into the open expanse of live electronics, organic instrumentation and improvisation, without a net. Accompanied by the talents of ex-Sun Ra and current Innerzone drummer/percussionist Francisco Mora, plus an assemblage of other like-minded musicians and DJ's, expect a melange of electronic soundscapes, percussion, free jazz, spoken word, turntablism, dance beats of many origins and permutations, and most of all, the unexpected. As has always been the case during his musical career, Carl Craig Friends looks to challenge his audience's preconceptions even further. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://techno.ca/cognition 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] Claude Young
There is a Claude Young with Terrence Parker on DOW as well. Quite good. TP mentioned Claude has some house tracks that are really tight, but he has trouble getting them released b/c he's known primarilly as a techno artist. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, Québécois, online now. -Original Message- From: mkarora [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Cyborg K [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [313] Claude Young I have a 'dub street posse' record on DOW..there's a beautiful house song on one side w/a superb bass line.. another track samples the 'perculator' i think it's the only claude young record i have. any other records of his that are more house oriented/of a similar vein? On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, stephen wrote: I was only using Claude Young as an example But since you asked I thought his new one on Deta was alright, I'm more of a fan of his classic stuff like Brother From Another Planet but that goes for a lot of the Detroit techno artist nowdays The Pattern Buffer series on DJAX is not my style. stephen. Cyborg K wrote: Well, how is the new Claude Young record, since you bring it up? I know I really enjoy the Pattern buffer record he put out recently on DJAX... In general, I would say just because certain artists get discussed more often doesn't mean others aren't appreciated as well. Some people just post more and so it's natural that the artists they are really enthusiastic about will be discussed more! --dave aka cyborg k - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] Detroit Grand Pubahs vs. UK charts
In a message dated 7/10/00 11:48:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Speaking of Pubahs, I noticed a single release here for Sandwiches again. Different from the EP I picked up. Anyone heard it, worth it? THROWs Brian Gillespie played the new rmxs from JIVEelec they're ok. there is one chunky electro sorta track that i liked but as always the originals are always the best... bilee
Central Website
Hey all, just a quick question, what's the URL for Central records?? Any help much appreciated, thanks 'Michigan' Myke [1 TRAK Resident] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Jeff Mills: LifeLike cd Tracklisting
hello, I know this has already been mentioned on the list, but can somebody tell me, or point me to a website which states where the tracks from the Lifelike cd come from.I thought that it was a compilation of songs already released on some of the Axis 12. thanks steve __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
a+r contacts addresses
hello! i am trying to get some demos from perth to the following labels: Perlon Records Cabinet Records Force Trax Italic Records Klang Records i was hoping someone had contact names and addresses for these guys (with regards to sending demos? any help would be most appreciated! [[p.s. being a little shy, i don't get that vocal on 313, but i really enjoy reading the digest everyday, the realaudio mixes from everybody are always the best!!! - cheers.]] thanx! ewan jansen www.redember.com.au (severly undermaintained) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [313] Disco identificazione...
The first starts approx. 23:00, it's a Chicago house track with vocals going You can't hide, you can't hide from yourself... backed with heavy 909 percussion. It only sounds a little like the Frankie Knuckles track but it may very well be an accapella over something else - there were two 12s released in the UK with a whole bunch of different mixes... The last track comes in 37:00 with arpeggiated synth bass-line, and it has a nice female vox kinda like Donna Summer. Some extremely classy Patrick Cowley-like effects in the end, analogue sweeps... This one is Tamiko Jones Can't Live Without Your Love from 1979, produced by Randy Muller of Brass Construction. Hope that helps! BABY DIDDY
Difficult Listening Playlist RTRFM 92.1
DIFFICULT LISTENING 09/07/2K Sunday Evenings 9-11pm. Public Radio RTR FM (92.1) Perth, Western Australia Contemporary classical, experimental, electronic, industrial, ambient, noise, etc. Presenter: A_Zed Public radio RTR FM is now broadcasting over the internet, 24 Hours a day. Follow the Real Audio link from the Difficult Listening page, shown in the .sig below. If you want to catch Difficult Listening in particular, it goes to air at 1.00pm Sunday GMT, 9.00am US Eastern Time, and 6.00am US Pacific time. -- Tonight's guest presenter was A_Zed doing a special program focussing on minimalist sound designs. Siemens.bioport - Gramm (~Scape) Raw Macro - Farben (Klang) A Measure Of Loss - Kit Clayton (Drop Beat) Tommorow Cocktail - Villalobos Sense Club (Perlon) Rondell Eins - Pole (Kiff) 8.5 - Various Artists (Fatcat) M4.5 A- Maurizio (Basic Channel) Silence the descent - Existence and Uniqueness of Solutions (Switch) Restless Life - Stewart Walker (Background) Concept 96:VR Untitled 2 - Thomas Brinkmann (M_nus) Untitled /B3 - Sutekh (Force Inc.) .d/kompilia - Vladislav Delay (~Scape) Ten - Apathism (Uturn) Station Rider E - Robert Hood (M-Plant) Growth - Jeff Mills (Axis) Untitled/ A2 - Lowtec (OTL) _ These playlists are stored cumulatively (for the last three months) at the website listed below. Contact me if you want to receive them by email. If you have some music that you think I might be interested in broadcasting, on tape, CD or vinyl, don't hesitate to get in touch. Best wishes Bryce Moore, presenter of 'Difficult Listening' 9-11pm Sundays on public radio RTR FM (92.1) Perth, Western Australia http://anythink.ii.net/difflist [EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Box 277 South Fremantle WA 6162, Australia.
Ambient Zone RTRFM 92.1 Playlist
Ambient Zone RTRFM 92.1 Playlist 09/07/2K 1st hour by A_Zed 2 pro 1 - Spacetime Continuum (Silent) Interscape - Jonah Sharpe/ Tesuo Inoue (Havest) Untitled - Patio (Involve) Nautical Zone - Porter Ricks (Chain Reaction) Kaamos 2 - Thomas Koner (Mille Plateaux) Time Tunnel: Synaptic Response - Legion Of Green Men (Post Contemporary) Neptune - Model 500 (RS) 2nd hour by Lachlan_K Aubery Huermann - Aubery Huermann (Development) Locomotion -Ritchie Hawtin (M_nus) MNML - Dale Lawrence (Theorem) Change of Pace - Claude Young (Elypsia) You thought it - Planetary Assault Systems (Peacefrog) Baal (Evening Ver) - Velocette (Reflective) Long lost - Planetary Assault Systems (Peacefrog) Identity Crisis Born Again Human - Jason Szostek (Serotonin) Slogan - John Tejada (Organized Noise) Hope everyone who tuned in enjoyed the show. Please feel free to contact me about any querries you have about the show or the tracks featured. Best regards, A_Zed _ Program Co-ordinator, Ambient Zone RTRFM 92.1 Sunday Electronic Listening [http://rtrfm.ii.net] Perth, W.Aust (WST) 23.00-01.00 Detroit (EST) 10.00-12.00 Frankfurt (CET)/ London(GMT) 16.00-18.00
Mills playing Finland
Ville Hyvönen wrote: Well luckily we´ll have Mills playing in middle Finland next saturday... nice web design for the party, hope it go's well, great shot of mills too. http://kaaos.niitty.org/ Speaking of Finland cant wait to get the new Ural 13 Diktators record, they have a very unique retro sound, kinda hard to describe. stephen.
Re: [313] Claude Young
mkarora wrote: I have a 'dub street posse' record on DOW..any other records of his that are more house oriented/of a similar vein? I think he did some deep house tracks on the Serious Grooves label, you might want to check his Project 625 records on Dow also. Phonopsia wrote: There is a Claude Young with Terrence Parker on DOW as well. Quite good. There are some RA samples of that track on www.groovetech.com, they also have some of his more recent techno work in RA worth checking out. (ignore Mijk Van Dijk) I still listen to the Claude Young DJ Kicks on occasion, great mix. stephen.
Re: DUB I massive or minute..?
I've read several artists/releases from this label (DUB) championed on the 313... DURACEL, for one, and yet I have no knowledge of the sounds to be expected... Go to the Hotmix web site and click on the audio link, hope this helps. http://www.hotmix.nl/ stephen.
Re: [313] Mills playing Finland / URAL13
stephen wrote: Speaking of Finland cant wait to get the new Ural 13 Diktators record, they have a very unique retro sound, kinda hard to describe. -They've been listening to lot of 80's dance music, HI-NRG, Italo and such... I was surprised when they got DJ Skip (of Dance Mania Push Pac. -fame) to do a remix for their second record. I asked about this and the other guy from Ural said that he had met Skip in France (in a club) and they made contacts. It's a small world arter all. Proffit Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [313] Finns?
On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, jim proffit wrote: Vladislav Delay is from Finland Indeed Yes, and if I remember correct he was from Rovaniemi or Oulu. From some Lapland town anyway. He's from Oulu, but I wouldn't be calling it Lapland when speaking with him or other guys from here... ;) Don't know the story about his name though, I doubt it's related to any of his equipment. J Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control. - UR
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Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
Or Steel Pulse or Ijahman Levi or Israel Vibration or Burning Spear,etc.,etc... proper dub... no abstract stuff there:) Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Neil Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/10/00 10:51:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: not dub styled What does dub mean anyway?(not duplicate kind either) Dub began as kind of 'remixes' of reggae tracks, (indeed to this day many reggae 7s come w/ reggae version on one side and a dub on the flip) often vocals were stripped out almost completely usually with small snatches and refrains dropped into the mix occasionally, the bass is usually much heavier than reggae. In addition large amounts of delay are used to create some really crazy effects (check out lee perrys 'dub revolution' which has some insane cuts of vocals dropping in and out). I think Dub is really important in highlighting the role that the producer plays in the creation of tracks, as many dub tracks are credited to both producer AND musicians rather than the producers name being hidden somewhere in the liner notes. But from dub roots as an offshoot of reggae the term has been used in various ways, for instance a dub of a house track is genrally the track minus the vocals (or certainly less vocals). Now the term is used to describe stuff such as Basic Channel, Pole, etc Bass heavy, with plenty delay effects, this is also sometimes refered to as 'digital dub' to avoid confusion w/ trad. dub. If you want to check any Old school Dub try Lee Scratch Perry King Tubby Prince Jammy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Fennesz / Pita Show: Detroit July 20
I'm behind on idm/313 digest's, so please excuse the overlap if this has been mentioned already. * Straight outta Vienna, mego label artists Fennesz and Pita are coming to Detroit next week (Detroit Contemporary, July 20). www.mego.at Fennesz Pita Special Guests: Markus Schmikler and Jeff Koralski Detroit Contemporary Gallery 5141 Rosa Parks Blvd 313-898-4278 www.detroitcontemporary.com Doors at 9pm, Show at 9:30pm $8 Here's a quick link about them on Allmusic Guide: Fennesz: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amgsql=B202296 Pita: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amgsql=B202300 Here's a link to the mego site regarding the album they are promoting on the tour: http://www.mego.at/mego031.html Unfortunately, Mr. Jim O'Rourke will not be in attendance.Davis Ford Pietro. _ pietro da sacco :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cjam 91.5 fm saturday mid-2am (est) 9745 lynngrove cr, windsor, ontario, n8r 1b8, canada grooves :: www.groovesmag.com igloo ~coming soon :: www.skimo.com --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
Re: [idm] ultrasoniq festival in pitt.7/16-7/18
Announcing ULTRASONIQ! an electronic/experimental music festival in the 21st century European style! not a rave! three-day festival passes available now for $16 at: Paul's CDs (Bloomfield), Hypervinyl (Oakland), Brave New World (Oakland), Future Sounds (Squirrel Hill), Eye of Horus (South Side) and Slacker (South Side). Passes available for $15 at the MIT. Save $5-6! Sunday July 16 ULTRASONIQ Day One: Buzz and Crunch FreeTekno artists Kactus Tribe (from France) Zipperspy(Lowell, MA), Panicsville (Chicago), Electro Organic Sound System (Boston), Darryl Hell (of EBN, from NYC), Princess Dragon Mom and Hearing Trumpet (Detroit) 8 pm - 2 am $7 Monday July 17 ULTRASONIQ Day Two: Whir and Drone Ash/Touch and Malignant recording artist from Sweden, formerly of Cold Meat Industry's Morthond * Hazard * Staalplaat/Mego/Sedimental recording artist from Spain * Francisco Lopez * Unit Circle /Knitting Factory/RecRec/Cuneiform artist from Seattle * Amy Denio * with Powder French, Twine, and Land 8 pm - 2 am $7 Tuesday July 18 ULTRASONIQ Day Three: Click and Ping Mego recording artists from Austria Fennesz and Pita A-Musik / Mille Plateaux recording artist from Germany Markus Schmickler (a.k.a. Pluramon Sator Rotas) with Keenan Lawler (Louisville), Kracfive artists Colongib/Octopus Inc., and Spencer Luxe 8 pm - 2 am $7 Wednesday July 19 metal Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [idm] ultrasoniq festival in pitt.7/16-7/18
Announcing ULTRASONIQ! an electronic/experimental music festival in the 21st century European style! not a rave! three-day festival passes available now for $16 at: Paul's CDs (Bloomfield), Hypervinyl (Oakland), Brave New World (Oakland), Future Sounds (Squirrel Hill), Eye of Horus (South Side) and Slacker (South Side). Passes available for $15 at the MIT. Save $5-6! Sunday July 16 ULTRASONIQ Day One: Buzz and Crunch FreeTekno artists Kactus Tribe (from France) Zipperspy(Lowell, MA), Panicsville (Chicago), Electro Organic Sound System (Boston), Darryl Hell (of EBN, from NYC), Princess Dragon Mom and Hearing Trumpet (Detroit) 8 pm - 2 am $7 Monday July 17 ULTRASONIQ Day Two: Whir and Drone Ash/Touch and Malignant recording artist from Sweden, formerly of Cold Meat Industry's Morthond * Hazard * Staalplaat/Mego/Sedimental recording artist from Spain * Francisco Lopez * Unit Circle /Knitting Factory/RecRec/Cuneiform artist from Seattle * Amy Denio * with Powder French, Twine, and Land 8 pm - 2 am $7 Tuesday July 18 ULTRASONIQ Day Three: Click and Ping Mego recording artists from Austria Fennesz and Pita A-Musik / Mille Plateaux recording artist from Germany Markus Schmickler (a.k.a. Pluramon Sator Rotas) with Keenan Lawler (Louisville), Kracfive artists Colongib/Octopus Inc., and Spencer Luxe 8 pm - 2 am $7 Wednesday July 19 metal info: 412-422-8864 (GAB-TUNG.) http://www.mit.telerama.com/ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Re: [idm] ultrasoniq festival in pitt.7/16-7/18
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Re: [313] Re: [idm] ultrasoniq festival in pitt.7/16-7/18
princess dragon mom? wow, that's gonna be a great gig for them. i didn't read all the way through the lineup since it was so far away... i have my mog stunt team shirt at home still. plus, i've picketed john tesh in front of the fox theater. now THERE'S a good time. take care, linda g pager 800-200-5176 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Message Follows From: Hugh G. Blaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Re: [idm] ultrasoniq festival in pitt.7/16-7/18 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:14:40 EDT Princess Dragon Mom and Hearing Trumpet (Detroit) PDM rocks! Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Postmodern / Futurismo
I would say there could be no discussion of music and philosophy without mentioning the Futurists; probably the only school of philosophical thought that espoused a musical form. The Futurist Symphonies of cars honking, scraping steel and construction noise had an obvious impact on the Industrial music that came 60 years later (and Industrial begat Detroit Techno: thereby staying On Topic) But speaking of contemporary continental philosophers, I'd say Markus Pop probably does a more interesting and successful critique of Deluze's Nomadology in a musical form than (for instance) DJ Spooky ever did. I don't think Pop concerns himself with philosophical baggage in terms of making his music, though: I think his approach is more of a process-oriented one (which in an of itself is a Deluzean manner of creating things like folds) but not one that's directly referencing any philosophy. Whatever. I want to press a button and hear a beat. e ps: every department has its own focus. The Architecture program I was a part of years ago worked within a feminist philosophical umbrella (though not everybody in the program subscribed to that viewpoint). It sounds odd until you think that a society that could come up with sayings like a woman's place is in the home must use sexuality as some kind of determining factor in architectural forms and identities. Phonopsia wrote: Can anyone think of contemporary artists who use postmodern thought to good effect in their music today? Skinny Puppy did it well once and you could make the argument that Stereolab is messing around with French philosophy. I'm having trouble thinking of many other artists who do it well, or who actually have any of the philosophical background to understand the concepts beneath the surface. It's been my experience that a lot of people skip straight to the recent thought (I tried it and realized I should probably go back and get the background before plungeing in), and miss a whole lot of philosophical/psychological/anthropological history in the process. I've also noticed that at least at the University of Iowa, the philosophy department seems to avoid postmodern continental thought focusing on contemporary Anglo-American philosophy, whereas most criticism programs skip the philosophy and head straight into the newer stuff. Probably a huge factor... Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, Québécois, online now. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [313] DJ Spooky/Dave Clarke On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Cyclone Wehner wrote: I've seen him and he was OK - he did this live double-bass thing as well, not a great DJ, but the concept was interesting. Spooky doesn't see himself as mainstream at all, in fact he gets a lot of flack for his intellectual approach from the NY establishment. He sees it like, why can't an African-American man be an intellectual, a conceptualist, I don't want to do what the mainstream deems to be 'Black music' like gangsta rap or whatever. He is big on contemporary French philosophy (more influential than you'd think) and sees himself as intervening in those discourses. I think this is how he sees himself. But in discussions with him in another email forum (dedicated to the idea of afrofuturism) I've come to the conclusion that he's running the DJ equivalent of a Proudhon scam. Proudhon was a French philosopher cum activist who, when with philosophers would tout his activist credentials, and when with activists would tout his philosophy credentials. But Karl Marx peeped that he was actually NEITHER--his thoughts weren't that deep, and he simply wasn't doing any activist work, just faking it. I suspect that when he's with DJ's what he's really trying to claim is his reading of Marcuse, or Foucault, or even Crusebut when he's with intellectuals, he's trying to claim his status as a DJ. But when I've tried to talk to him about the intellectual end...his ideas are shallow at best. He ends up losing in the long run because in the end his body of work won't be worth noting in either categorybut in the short run he gets PAID. peace lks --- Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assistant Professor, Political Science Washington University at St. Louis We illuminate the contradictions and call it the light --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!?
herbert
Take me back is on the CD 100 Lbs. at least. Don't know about vinyl. I've been a fan since the Wishmountain and early Dr. Rockit stuff on Clear, but nothing compares to his work with Dani Siciliano in my opinion ... -d
Re: [313] Postmodern / Futurismo
that came 60 years later (and Industrial begat Detroit Techno: thereby staying On Topic) Whoa now... lets not forget its George Clinton meets Kraftwerk in an elevator not George Clinton meets Nine Inch Nails in an elevator Ollie From: Elliot Taub [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] Postmodern / Futurismo Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:15:43 -0700 I would say there could be no discussion of music and philosophy without mentioning the Futurists; probably the only school of philosophical thought that espoused a musical form. The Futurist Symphonies of cars honking, scraping steel and construction noise had an obvious impact on the Industrial music that came 60 years later (and Industrial begat Detroit Techno: thereby staying On Topic) But speaking of contemporary continental philosophers, I'd say Markus Pop probably does a more interesting and successful critique of Deluze's Nomadology in a musical form than (for instance) DJ Spooky ever did. I don't think Pop concerns himself with philosophical baggage in terms of making his music, though: I think his approach is more of a process-oriented one (which in an of itself is a Deluzean manner of creating things like folds) but not one that's directly referencing any philosophy. Whatever. I want to press a button and hear a beat. e ps: every department has its own focus. The Architecture program I was a part of years ago worked within a feminist philosophical umbrella (though not everybody in the program subscribed to that viewpoint). It sounds odd until you think that a society that could come up with sayings like a woman's place is in the home must use sexuality as some kind of determining factor in architectural forms and identities. Phonopsia wrote: Can anyone think of contemporary artists who use postmodern thought to good effect in their music today? Skinny Puppy did it well once and you could make the argument that Stereolab is messing around with French philosophy. I'm having trouble thinking of many other artists who do it well, or who actually have any of the philosophical background to understand the concepts beneath the surface. It's been my experience that a lot of people skip straight to the recent thought (I tried it and realized I should probably go back and get the background before plungeing in), and miss a whole lot of philosophical/psychological/anthropological history in the process. I've also noticed that at least at the University of Iowa, the philosophy department seems to avoid postmodern continental thought focusing on contemporary Anglo-American philosophy, whereas most criticism programs skip the philosophy and head straight into the newer stuff. Probably a huge factor... Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, Québécois, online now. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [313] DJ Spooky/Dave Clarke On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Cyclone Wehner wrote: I've seen him and he was OK - he did this live double-bass thing as well, not a great DJ, but the concept was interesting. Spooky doesn't see himself as mainstream at all, in fact he gets a lot of flack for his intellectual approach from the NY establishment. He sees it like, why can't an African-American man be an intellectual, a conceptualist, I don't want to do what the mainstream deems to be 'Black music' like gangsta rap or whatever. He is big on contemporary French philosophy (more influential than you'd think) and sees himself as intervening in those discourses. I think this is how he sees himself. But in discussions with him in another email forum (dedicated to the idea of afrofuturism) I've come to the conclusion that he's running the DJ equivalent of a Proudhon scam. Proudhon was a French philosopher cum activist who, when with philosophers would tout his activist credentials, and when with activists would tout his philosophy credentials. But Karl Marx peeped that he was actually NEITHER--his thoughts weren't that deep, and he simply wasn't doing any activist work, just faking it. I suspect that when he's with DJ's what he's really trying to claim is his reading of Marcuse, or Foucault, or even Crusebut when he's with intellectuals, he's trying to claim his status as a DJ. But when I've tried to talk to him about the intellectual end...his ideas are shallow at best. He ends up losing in the long run because in the end his body of work won't be worth noting in either categorybut in the short run he gets PAID. peace lks ---
new mix on live365.com
I uploaded a mix of funk, disco, and new wave tracks to live365.com. Unique in that every record came from the Goodwill thrift store. Artists included -- Yazz, Rufus w/Chaka Khan, Michael Jackson, Lisa Lisa, Fine Young Cannibals, Patrice Rushen, and many other obscure delights from back in the day. You can thrill to my occasionally dodgy mixing! You can imagine the world as it was, innocent, fresh and new in 1985. I tried to pick tracks that would actually be played out during that period, while avoiding the more commercially obvious choices. Note for trainspotters -- several tracks in this mix have been extensively sampled. Can you guess which ones? http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?genre=searchsearchdesc=chaircrusher If that big ugly url is a problem just go to www.live365.com and search on chaircrusher. kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
twelveinch.com/tektonik update - lifelike giveaway
Greetings all, Live tonight at 8pm - 11pm ET in glorious streaming MP3 format everyone is invited to listen to Toronto's Tommy Smalls and Harmonika play a back-to-back three hour set at the usual Tuesday night slot on www.twelveinch.com - tonight they'll also be giving away a copy of the Jeff Mills Lifelike CD, listen to the show at 8pm for details on how you can win. We've also gone through a re-release of some slightly older content in MP3, this time it's streaming so you don't have to sit for a long time downloading music, just click and listen. Some new skills to check out as well, and your usual collection of some fine up coming talent on the web site with lots more coming. Quite literally, there's hundreds of hours of mixed music on the site, and room for thousands more.. Of course we're always interested in hearing more mixed sets, so if you're looking for some drive space and bandwidth to host your music out there on that place we call the web, please feel free to come to the site and drop us a line. Here's to pleasing your ears, - twelveinch.com
Which Jay Denham?
Hey, folks. Currently listening to Abe Duque's DiskoB mix Cd and there's this Jay Denham piece on there, False Hopes, I'm really feeling. Can anyone recommend a particular EP/CD of his stuff? Cheers. Jorge Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
