RE: [313] Why Im Not Going To DEMF (Autechre)
double-spaced to show how grave this matter really is? who said it was a joke in the first place? chris ege signing off. On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear people > > would like to laugh with you - but why is that one so funny ? > > this joke is comparing black culture with farmer culture - > > > - is that the joke about it ? > > - thanks, > > > it ?s based on an old kind of joke-structure, > > creating a scurrile situation mixed with situations in real life, > > to make people and problems in reality look silly. > > In this case it wasn?t that crazy funky fresh and > > it was also focusing some serious statements about racism > > which did get reflected here on the list some weeks ago... > > try to understand: > > making jokes about it is destructive > > It?s good when people talk and keep saying their opinions > > about racism, cause this subject is difficult for many to talk > > about it, as it?s also about feelings like fear and hate > > and it?s about - you . always > > It would be great if people go to the DEMF and talk > > about it there over and over and over again ... > > it?s important to keep on talking, to learn, to realise, > > to stop and to avoid racism and for you to watch your own steps > > it?s a very "strange" move to start making jokes and to make > > people look silly in this case, even when you think it?s funny > > talk about it too, if you have something to say > > but stop making weak jokes about it > > I do wonder about your motivation to pick out those subjects > > for this master-piece of work with "humor" ? > > and beside all that, the joke was also making people > > look ridiculous, who are searching, trying to do something and > > facing some consequences as they are going through life > > realise - these people almost don?t exist in 2001 anymore > > It?s the era of "new economy" - no rules - no consequences > > but I guess you won?t listen anyway. > > ok, go ahead funnies. > > In the meantime let?s wait for some of you > > ending up in the "never-economy". > > to those, who are too handy and bloated to move, > > yes you, keep on laughing - > > sarcasm is gonna f*ck you up > > m > > -- > --- > > GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > http://www.gmx.net > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
RE: [313] Why Im Not Going To DEMF (Autechre)
well, it didn't help that he got the name of Autechre's album wrong either ... it was hard to tell if it was a joke or a "hastily-thrown-together editorial" (TM). -d At 1:02 AM +0200 4/22/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear people would like to laugh with you - but why is that one so funny ? this joke is comparing black culture with farmer culture - - is that the joke about it ? - thanks, it ´s based on an old kind of joke-structure, creating a scurrile situation mixed with situations in real life, to make people and problems in reality look silly. In this case it wasn´t that crazy funky fresh and it was also focusing some serious statements about racism which did get reflected here on the list some weeks ago... try to understand: making jokes about it is destructive It´s good when people talk and keep saying their opinions about racism, cause this subject is difficult for many to talk about it, as it´s also about feelings like fear and hate and it´s about - you . always It would be great if people go to the DEMF and talk about it there over and over and over again ... it´s important to keep on talking, to learn, to realise, to stop and to avoid racism and for you to watch your own steps it´s a very "strange" move to start making jokes and to make people look silly in this case, even when you think it´s funny talk about it too, if you have something to say but stop making weak jokes about it I do wonder about your motivation to pick out those subjects for this master-piece of work with "humor" ? and beside all that, the joke was also making people look ridiculous, who are searching, trying to do something and facing some consequences as they are going through life realise - these people almost don´t exist in 2001 anymore It´s the era of "new economy" - no rules - no consequences but I guess you won´t listen anyway. ok, go ahead funnies. In the meantime let´s wait for some of you ending up in the "never-economy". to those, who are too handy and bloated to move, yes you, keep on laughing - sarcasm is gonna f*ck you up m -- --- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Why Im Not Going To DEMF (Autechre)
Dear people would like to laugh with you - but why is that one so funny ? this joke is comparing black culture with farmer culture - - is that the joke about it ? - thanks, it ´s based on an old kind of joke-structure, creating a scurrile situation mixed with situations in real life, to make people and problems in reality look silly. In this case it wasn´t that crazy funky fresh and it was also focusing some serious statements about racism which did get reflected here on the list some weeks ago... try to understand: making jokes about it is destructive It´s good when people talk and keep saying their opinions about racism, cause this subject is difficult for many to talk about it, as it´s also about feelings like fear and hate and it´s about - you . always It would be great if people go to the DEMF and talk about it there over and over and over again ... it´s important to keep on talking, to learn, to realise, to stop and to avoid racism and for you to watch your own steps it´s a very "strange" move to start making jokes and to make people look silly in this case, even when you think it´s funny talk about it too, if you have something to say but stop making weak jokes about it I do wonder about your motivation to pick out those subjects for this master-piece of work with "humor" ? and beside all that, the joke was also making people look ridiculous, who are searching, trying to do something and facing some consequences as they are going through life realise - these people almost don´t exist in 2001 anymore It´s the era of "new economy" - no rules - no consequences but I guess you won´t listen anyway. ok, go ahead funnies. In the meantime let´s wait for some of you ending up in the "never-economy". to those, who are too handy and bloated to move, yes you, keep on laughing - sarcasm is gonna f*ck you up m -- --- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net
Re: [313] Re: ~scape releases (was: Re: [313] in an attempt...)
Sorry for the extra post, but I've just discovered that the [komfort.labor] presents ~scape/Pole mix album is actually on WMF RECORDS. Wes
Re: ~scape releases (was: Re: [313] in an attempt...)
The Pole mix album is on general release, even saw a stack of copies in one of the dear ol' HMV stores here in Tranna today. Apparently, it took Betke 6 months to get right, & is based on the kind of sets he lays down in the back room at a Berlin club called WMF where he has a residency. I don't have the listing handy, but it includes tracks by Vladislav Delay, Maus & Stolle, Kit Clayton, Low Res, Cinematic Orchestra, Flanger, Farben, & Pole himself. An absolutely stunning, innovative mix. The Clayton at Mutek one is a one-off promo-type thing that a friend of Betke's slipped me. Heavy, trance-like (in a good, gamelan orchestra-type way), industrial-strength dub klickery, with lots of extraneous crowd noise that adds to the tribal feel of the whole experience. I like it better than the Monolake/Clayton live set I recently heard here, mainly because he crams so much into 45-50 mins. or so. It never lets up... That said, Henke & Kit's live show really built up over the course of 2 or more hours until it was absolutely flying. They were running abstract, sound-synched/triggered video from their macs onto the wall opposite their live set up, & kind of improvised/took their musical cues interactively from that. The audience could choose to dance, stare at the performers, or stare at the projected visuals. Worked pretty well, I thought. The random, free-floating visuals often seemed related to the beautifully 'textured' images that grace Imbalance/Monolake album covers. Best, Wes On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, William VanLoo wrote: > > Stefan Betke: [komfort.labor] presents ~scape (~scape) > > Kit Clayton: Live at Mutek 00.06.11 (~scape) > > Wow, are these both official release on ~scape? When did/do they come out? > > Cheers, > > Bill > -- > http://www.chromedecay.org >
Re: [313] aspiring producer need help
- Original Message - From: "Rusty Blasco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 1:56 PM Subject: [313] aspiring producer need help > 2. What kind of gear should I consider acquiring? Hardware or > software? Which pieces of equipment or programs, specifically? Why? (Let > me just add that I would rather work with physical, tangible equipment > rather than sit and fiddle with a mouse, but it will all boil down to > possibilities, capabilities, and potential.) Do any of you recommend the DJ > route? Just so you know, I'm currently into banging, minimal techno (a la > T-1000 and Richie Hawtin) but do also have a love for deep grooves and > controlled chaos (a la Carl Craig and Claude Young). As you pose the questions at present, it's really way too broad for anyone to give you advice but what *they* would do - and that's not very helpful for deciding what gear to get or where to move. Different scenes offer different things. For my club going $, I would say Chicago and Detroit are the best places to be. Also, you should do some independent research, find out what you might like about the distinct creative processes of DJing and production. DJing for me offers immediate gratification, and production is more of a sustained satisfaction - for what my $.02 are worth. Both require years of dedication to hone the crafts and both are very rewarding endeavors. I recommend talking to local DJs and producers to get a feel for their thoughts on these crafts, and see if any of them are helpful enough to encourage your growth. A few words on email from people you haven't met are inherently going to be less valuable than personal contact and hopefully some mentoring and guidance with one-on-one contact. Once you get that ball rolling and get a feel for your specific interests and needs you may want to post the gear question to 313TechKnow. Subscribe here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/313TechKnow There's also a good list for DJ & production advice, etc: Amtrak DJs. you can find more info here: http://www.amtrakdjs.org I know that L.A. has a DJ school called Mixxbox or something like that, which could be helpful. I am presently involved in a similar effort in D.C., opening in a few months called Metatrack Studios, where we will offer DJ clinincs, one on one lessons and seminars, recording/practice booths and prodcution facilities/instruction. This is a new world at the moment, and very exciting for me. Many of us, particularly those of us raised on the DIY aesthetic have taught ourselves - but there's a great opportunity to offer guidance, pointers and excelleration of the learning curve without reducing the effort to formulaic drivel. If you can find a studio like this in the area you decide on, I encourage you to feel your way out in an area like this before committing to expensive equipment purchases. Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia <- Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue & info [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email <- AOL Instant Messenger _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
~scape releases (was: Re: [313] in an attempt...)
> Stefan Betke: [komfort.labor] presents ~scape (~scape) > Kit Clayton: Live at Mutek 00.06.11 (~scape) Wow, are these both official release on ~scape? When did/do they come out? Cheers, Bill -- http://www.chromedecay.org
Re: [313] in an attempt.... Top 10
I can see this mutating into a Detroit-centric 'tenth planet twelves/post-apocalypse platters/desert island discs' type thread... Current faves: Stefan Betke: [komfort.labor] presents ~scape (~scape) Jeff Lorber: Step by Step (Mercury) Kit Clayton: Live at Mutek 00.06.11 (~scape) Mikael Stavostrand: Reduce (Force Inc.) V/A: Pop Ambient 2001 (Kompakt) Robbie Basho: The Seal of the Blue Lotus (Takoma) Kit Clayton: Live on Shortwave Radio (Phthalo) V/A: Lo-Fi Stereography (Lo-Fi Stereo) Elesbaan: Isoghi Urban Mixes (Isoghi) Takkyu Ishino: Berlin Trax (Loopa) Wes
Re: [313] Cambridge UK: vinyl dump...
(hopefully) i might be moving to cambridge soon - got a job interview there on tuesday - anything much going on there? any good nights? - Original Message - From: "martin clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: [313] Cambridge UK: vinyl dump... > classics alert: > > anyone in the Cambridge [UK] area, Streetwise are selling some acid house's > DJ collection for £3 a go. they've got a crate full > > loads of todd terry, X103 'atlantis', R+S, KMS, trax, the odd Metroplex. > they had KMS 'forcefield'. [i thought of you Marcel] > > i picked up: > > Reese ' just another chance' [house classics] > Dan curtain 'Time undefined' [strictly rhythm] > ciruculation 'patterns' [balance] > tomahawk 'powermove EP' [Shockwave recs] > > and erm, IG Culture 'Vonga Vogue' [People] > > anyone know what the UR/Shockwave recs is? > > lemme know if you get down there, and what you get... > > martin > > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Cambridge UK: vinyl dump...
classics alert: anyone in the Cambridge [UK] area, Streetwise are selling some acid house's DJ collection for £3 a go. they've got a crate full loads of todd terry, X103 'atlantis', R+S, KMS, trax, the odd Metroplex. they had KMS 'forcefield'. [i thought of you Marcel] i picked up: Reese ' just another chance' [house classics] Dan curtain 'Time undefined' [strictly rhythm] ciruculation 'patterns' [balance] tomahawk 'powermove EP' [Shockwave recs] and erm, IG Culture 'Vonga Vogue' [People] anyone know what the UR/Shockwave recs is? lemme know if you get down there, and what you get... martin _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
aspiring producer need help
Hey everybody, I have now reached the important-life-decisions time of my existence. Graduation will be upon me in a couple short weeks. What next, I've been asking myself. Well, to be honest, I realize for the most part that my academic career has been spent engaging in studies that don't relate to my true artistic passions. My love for techno/electronic music grows by the day as does my desire to be a part of it all. My creative fires need to be stoked before I let life suck away my energies (a phenomenon which I know for a fact to be a reality). So, two important questions: 1. What locations, preferably American, should I be narrowing my focus on? I need a place that has a well-established techno scene and a supportive artistic/cultural atmosphere. Always need something to do, you know? FYI, I'm considering moving to California with my best friend, who has applied to USC and Cal Arts for film. Any key cities out on the west coast? 2. What kind of gear should I consider acquiring? Hardware or software? Which pieces of equipment or programs, specifically? Why? (Let me just add that I would rather work with physical, tangible equipment rather than sit and fiddle with a mouse, but it will all boil down to possibilities, capabilities, and potential.) Do any of you recommend the DJ route? Just so you know, I'm currently into banging, minimal techno (a la T-1000 and Richie Hawtin) but do also have a love for deep grooves and controlled chaos (a la Carl Craig and Claude Young). I would appreciate any feedback and insights any of you can give me. Be aware that I don't plan on following anyone's advice to the word, but I really need some guidance now. I don't want to make any serious mistakes. Plus, my own ignorance seems to make itself known on a daily basis. Thanks guys. I hope to be among the ranks sometime in the not-so-distant future. Rusty _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] T.Barnett?
he's a co-founder of Transmat, one of the base labels of Detroit Techno's growth. that's a new one on me ... anyone else have info to back this up? -d
Re: [313] Recording Hawtin set...
> - Original Message - > From: Kobi Omega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 5:35 AM > Subject: [313] Recording Hawtin set... > > > > er...its kinda piracy and all, but Richie Hawtin will do a 2hr mix on UK > > Radio One tonite... Maybe its different in the UK, but how is it piracy to record stuff off of the radio? Far as i know you're still allowed to do such for personal use... I hope this is still true... if not - another unfortunate consequence of the internet age... *sigh* "and i thought the airwaves were still free" Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq : 718010 aim : elektrikjones -- "again and again I've taken too much" - New Order - True Faith --
Re: [313] sample at mu2
I know that this is a little delayed...Someone told me (and I think the consensus here was) that the sample Richie played throughout the night >(I called you...but you weren't there...) was from a Green Velvet >track called "Answering Machine". No, it's propably Lil' Louis' "I called U". -Proffit _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
sample at mu2
I know that this is a little delayed...Someone told me (and I think the consensus here was) that the sample Richie played throughout the night (I called you...but you weren't there...) was from a Green Velvet track called "Answering Machine". I heard "Answering Machine" but didn't here the sample. Can someone help me out with where this sample came from? Alex Gomez
Amsterdam 1 May
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Check it out!! Launched today. http://audiobeyond.com/ Releases from Håkan Lidbo and Calico. Peace /Pat
Re: [313] electro/disco song on Malcolm in the Middle
Your'e right it has nothing to do with electro, but I would not go so far as saying a cheesy pop hit, before that track hit pop it was a big club record in NYC, one which I still play and enjoy. - Original Message - From: "Sakari Karipuro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ".: Caltrop :." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [313] electro/disco song on Malcolm in the Middle > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, .: Caltrop :. wrote: > > > It's > > Lipps Inc. - Funky Town > > It's a hilarious show by the way :) > > well, it's funny tune but it has definately *nothing* to do with > electro. it was a huge cheesy pop hit looong time ago. > > > sakke > -- > A dream will always triumph over reality, once it is given the chance. > -- Stanislaw Lem > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [313] T.Barnett?
Haye! > I can understand the anger because of the lack of credit for mr. barnett for > creating transmat and being involved in a track like nude photo but let´s keep > things in perspectiveso let´s seperate the discussions, how important is > being credited for co-production and how much difference is there between nude > photo and may´s later work...and how does this compare to mr Barnett´s work. no > offence to mr. Barnett but let´s not make a myth out of this thing and make it a > nice quote for some coffeetable book or sumtin Well, it just seems to be some sort of a pattern, you know? Look at Cybotron's Rick Davis. Where is he now? You see a lot of the people that co-produced tracks or that had a great deal of influence disapear into obscurity. And it's a record like Nude Photo we're talking about here, one of the first records that came out that you could call Techno, so if Barnett indeed had a part in the record, then he has a part in Detroit Techno history... And if we think outside the artistic contribution, he's a co-founder of Transmat, one of the base labels of Detroit Techno's growth. Lay "Unconditional Empowerment" http://barkingcat.org/counterforce
Re: [313] Re: art vs. get rich quick scheme
that told me then. fair enough. but everytime i've heard carola he always drops it deep for about an hour or so playing question, bc and g-man trax. innercity - Original Message - From: sb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; David Bitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 5:48 AM Subject: [313] Re: art vs. get rich quick scheme > Whoa, this is a little out of hand, and quite off the mark... > > First off I suppose I should have made myself a bit clearer... I was more > referring to these guys DJ sets more than their tracks... They all tend to > just bang away, and my personal preference, (not saying it's the only way, > just the way I like) is a DJ that at least in some way takes you > somewhere... Not just pounding through an hour of your life Yes the > question records are good, I have them all... But Carolla doesn't play like > that live... Or at least I have never heard of him playing his deeper > slower stuff... My remarks were in response to the idea of these guys not > being at the DEMF and I was commenting on their DJing... I love and play > alot of those guys tracks... I'm not necessarily knocking all of their > production work... Especially their more recent stuff where they have > expanded into more than just compressed minimalism... DJ wise they do tend > to have the same style/sound... Except maybe Gaetano > > As far as insulting my understanding of the vibe of harder/experimental > techno styles, you are just way off the mark... I was heavy into Beyer, > Parisio, and the like between the years of 96 and 99... But after a while I > just started hearing the same record over and over again... So I started to > listen to some different stuff and went back to the classics and more > material coming straight out of Detroit again... My knowledge and record > collection as far as the Swedish and Italian scenes is quite extensive... I > think you may have jumped the gun with your attacks... > > And as far as the disco house comment... You are just killing me... Yeah i > like house that's deep, and some of it has disco samples in it, but look at > my Carl Craig collection, or my great admiration for Aril Brikha's work, or > my old school freestyle collection, or my Herbert collection that spans the > gamet of his work, or my love for latin jazz... Don't make me laugh > trying to Pigeon-hole me into one type of music is rediculous... > > The get rich quick aspect of it came from the idea that they were releasing > new records at a rate of almost twice a month for some time that sounded the > same as the last almost... I understand that that was their genre, and > their thing it's cool... I wasn't making a personal attack on their > character, just an observation... Sometimes people on this list are so > touchy... > > I was not attacking you or your tastes, just making a few comments... > > - sb > One Ear to the Ground Communications > http://www.totheground.com (Coming Soon!!) > AIM: sbtotheground > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [313] in an attempt.... Top 10
> >to get everyone off the whiny "why aren't they playing posts" and > >wasting bandwidth. i'm starting a new topic. ok Dan Robins - Chanting In the Dark (pete heller mix) Dj Tool 1 - Dj zank Funky Nassau (part 1) - the beginning of the end Donny Hartaway - The Getto Thomas Schumacher - Good life Shake first 3 tracks on Demf 2000 Quazar - Seven Stars Ani Difranco -back back back De la Soul - thru ya city Jaymz Nylon feat Mooney - I know a place (thanks to Helsinki mix sess) Just a selection (some poppy) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [313] Adam Beyer (RE: [313] numerous threads at once (swedes, t-1000, top 10, st germain))
seems to be alot of good releases mentioned for someone on a get rich quick tip from sweden. you also forgot the new platform with jel ford.. innercity - Original Message - From: Kevin Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [313] Adam Beyer (RE: [313] numerous threads at once (swedes, t-1000, top 10, st germain)) > Conform 12 - Lost & Found EP is sweet too, there's one > track with some really nice strings and a smooth > bassline. > >Kevin > > --- dan ito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > check out phases-brazen display and Christian Smith > > & Stryke-Highrider, more > > quality releases from ab > > > > > > >From: glyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: Gwendal Cobert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >CC: '313' <313@hyperreal.org> > > >Subject: Re: [313] Adam Beyer (RE: [313] numerous > > threads at once (swedes, > > >t-1000, top 10, st germain)) > > >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:22:23 -0700 > > > > > >Gwendal Cobert wrote: > > > > > > > talking about surprising stuff from Beyer... > > that's how I would qualify > > >his > > > > excellent Protechtion album, for example, some > > of the tracks there are > > >much > > > > more complex than what he is best known for ! > > > > > >also, code red 9 and at least one of the earlier > > drumcode singles are both > > >quite melodic, string-filled, and-- dare i > > say--detroit-sounding. > > > > > >glyn > > > > > > > > > >- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > _ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [313] Recording Hawtin set...
Why don't you just use a 120 minute tape? - Original Message - From: Kobi Omega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 5:35 AM Subject: [313] Recording Hawtin set... > er...its kinda piracy and all, but Richie Hawtin will do a 2hr mix on UK > Radio One tonite... > Is there a way to record it on the computer?? > 90 minute tapes or 80 min Minidisc is a pain in the arse. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [313] Nevermind about Norman Cook
I'm sorry but when I think of samples by black artists ?/*%$ I can recall Dan Penn for being an big influencial on the black sound way way back I got the feeling you look through the camera not minding the ppl on the set Anyway 'white men can't jump' right? But don't take this post too personal I have spotted numerous gaps and fell in them all by myself ;P DMt np 24 hour of king of snake remix by Norman Cook - Original Message - From: "Tosh Cooey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:42 PM Subject: [313] Nevermind about Norman Cook > I just listened to bits of his album from CDnow and heard lots of > samples of black artists, so obviously he's reprehensible. > > Apologies for posing the question before I investigated myself. > > Tosh > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [313] Recording Hawtin set...
Why don't you just use a 120 minute tape? - Original Message - From: Kobi Omega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 5:35 AM Subject: [313] Recording Hawtin set... > er...its kinda piracy and all, but Richie Hawtin will do a 2hr mix on UK > Radio One tonite... > Is there a way to record it on the computer?? > 90 minute tapes or 80 min Minidisc is a pain in the arse. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [313] Recording Hawtin set...
Why don't you just use a 120 minute tape? - Original Message - From: Kobi Omega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 5:35 AM Subject: [313] Recording Hawtin set... > er...its kinda piracy and all, but Richie Hawtin will do a 2hr mix on UK > Radio One tonite... > Is there a way to record it on the computer?? > 90 minute tapes or 80 min Minidisc is a pain in the arse. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [313] electro/disco song on Malcolm in the Middle
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, .: Caltrop :. wrote: > It's > Lipps Inc. - Funky Town > It's a hilarious show by the way :) well, it's funny tune but it has definately *nothing* to do with electro. it was a huge cheesy pop hit looong time ago. sakke -- A dream will always triumph over reality, once it is given the chance. -- Stanislaw Lem
Re: [313] Adam Beyer (RE: [313] numerous threads at once (swedes, t-1000, top 10, st germain))
>His cut on the new "Sound Architecture, Vol.1, H.Productions, is veryyy >good > i think that beyer best is svek`s "definition of d" by conceiled project b.
in an attempt.... Top 10
Rob wrote: to get everyone off the whiny "why aren't they playing posts" and wasting bandwidth. i'm starting a new topic. Now why would we want to leave the safety of the 313-Bizarro world? :) current top ten (in no particular order): Members of The House - 'Reach Out For the Love' (Shockwave) Beach Boys - 'Till I Die' (Capitol) Sparque - 'Music Turns Me On (West End) Angelo Badalamenti - 'Blue Velvet' O.S.T Laurent X - '12 AM' (House Nation) Mudhoney - 'Chain That Door' (Sub Pop) The Parallax Corporation - 'Robosexuality' (Viewlexx) Donna Regina - 'Star Ferry (Isolee remix)' (Karaoke Kalk) Glenn Underground - 'Head of House' (Guidance) Marvin Gaye - 'Wherever I Lay My Hat (That's My Home)' (Motown) cheers ~Askew _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] Why Im Not Going To DEMF (Autechre)
please consume more psychoactive/paint thinner/anti-freeze - this is superb! im tempted to post my 'history of farm jungle' that we did a while ago... its all about 'barn step' ab [our arch enemies give it up] >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 6:48 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] Why Im Not Going To DEMF (Autechre) > > >Forgive the spam, but: > >What psychoactive/paint thinner/anti-freeze did you consume in >order to come to that conclusion? > >Oh yes, I forgot, its 420 all day. > >Have a toke for me TwoStepBoy. > > >Vector Audax > > >>Dear 313 Friends- >> >>I'm afraid I will not be at DEMF this year. As a matter of >fact, I am now officially boycotting it and will no longer >support Carl Craig, planet E, the Ford Motor Company, or any >other individual or association helping sponsor or organize the >DEMF. >> >>The reason for my seemingly radical stance is that Autechre >will be playing. Now, until recently, I was a very big fan of >theirs, however the controversy cam ewith the release of their >new album "Cornfield". Now, being raised in the heartland of >america, the "Midwest" as it were, I have a strong afinity for >cornfields and the earth below them. When I first heard that the >title for the new album would be "Cornfield" I was very excited, >"Finally" I thought, "Autechre will be focusing on the needs and >unique experiences of the farmer!" However, after several close >listens, I realized that this was not the case at all, in fact, >Autechre seem to be expliting and misappropriating "farm scene" >culture and ideas to make money. >> >>As a matter of fact, Autechre's bastardization of the >agricultural scene is on par with Puff Daddy's exploitation of >Grand Master Flash's "The Message". Both of these scam artists >took something good and significant and recontextualized them >them into heinous consumer based exchange entities. I'm sure >Sean and Rob(ber) were sitting in their studio one day, and said >"Hey, in the US they have a strong farmer community. I bet if we >made an album that appealed to them, we could make loads of >cash." >> >>It is this mentality that has infected almost each and every >great movement: Rock'n'Roll, Disco, Hip-Hop, Rave, and >Agriculture. And ultimately caused their downfall. I refuse to >see the farm scene, which I consider myself and active member >of, get corrupted and commercialized by a bunch of Englishmen... >WHO AREN'T EVEN FARMERS!! This is just unacceptable. >> >>And that is why you won't see me at DEMF this year. >> >>Keep it real, >> >>t2s >> >>== >> .,-:-,,. >>.AMMMHMMHHMII, >> .AMMHHMMMHHMMHMMMHHA. >>.AMHHHIMMHMHL >> .AHHIHHMMHIMMMHMHHHMHLH: >> ,LHHIIIHMHMHMHHHLHHAIA >> ;IHHIHHMMH:IHMHMMHMHIHLIHHIA >>.:IHHII:':'..:.:IHMHMMIHHLIHH. >> ,I:AVI::.'. .'.'.::IAHMHMHHIALVAIHA >> ,A:AVI::.'. . . '.:IAVMMHAVLVAIVHHA >> ;HIHHMHHIHHMHMHMHHIHI::.:.. : . . AHAA. >>.AHIHMMMHMHMHMMHHMHII::.:.. . . . ..:HMMH: >>AHV':HHMHHMHMMMHMHHI::.:.. .. . .AOAVA/'-.. >>:I''VHHMMMHHMMMHHMHI::... :. . . ..AOOLV/.:.:.:''--...,. >>' .AHIHHMHHHMMMI: :.. .AAVAV/.:. . .: . >.-. >> >>_ >>Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net >> >>- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: art vs. get rich quick scheme
Whoa, this is a little out of hand, and quite off the mark... First off I suppose I should have made myself a bit clearer... I was more referring to these guys DJ sets more than their tracks... They all tend to just bang away, and my personal preference, (not saying it's the only way, just the way I like) is a DJ that at least in some way takes you somewhere... Not just pounding through an hour of your life Yes the question records are good, I have them all... But Carolla doesn't play like that live... Or at least I have never heard of him playing his deeper slower stuff... My remarks were in response to the idea of these guys not being at the DEMF and I was commenting on their DJing... I love and play alot of those guys tracks... I'm not necessarily knocking all of their production work... Especially their more recent stuff where they have expanded into more than just compressed minimalism... DJ wise they do tend to have the same style/sound... Except maybe Gaetano As far as insulting my understanding of the vibe of harder/experimental techno styles, you are just way off the mark... I was heavy into Beyer, Parisio, and the like between the years of 96 and 99... But after a while I just started hearing the same record over and over again... So I started to listen to some different stuff and went back to the classics and more material coming straight out of Detroit again... My knowledge and record collection as far as the Swedish and Italian scenes is quite extensive... I think you may have jumped the gun with your attacks... And as far as the disco house comment... You are just killing me... Yeah i like house that's deep, and some of it has disco samples in it, but look at my Carl Craig collection, or my great admiration for Aril Brikha's work, or my old school freestyle collection, or my Herbert collection that spans the gamet of his work, or my love for latin jazz... Don't make me laugh trying to Pigeon-hole me into one type of music is rediculous... The get rich quick aspect of it came from the idea that they were releasing new records at a rate of almost twice a month for some time that sounded the same as the last almost... I understand that that was their genre, and their thing it's cool... I wasn't making a personal attack on their character, just an observation... Sometimes people on this list are so touchy... I was not attacking you or your tastes, just making a few comments... - sb One Ear to the Ground Communications http://www.totheground.com (Coming Soon!!) AIM: sbtotheground
Recording Hawtin set...
er...its kinda piracy and all, but Richie Hawtin will do a 2hr mix on UK Radio One tonite... Is there a way to record it on the computer?? 90 minute tapes or 80 min Minidisc is a pain in the arse.
Re: [313] top 13 for 4/20 -&- laptop thread
what do people think of reason? i was thinking of investing in a copy...the demo looked like funits either that or an MPC 2000, and i just like the hands on feel of them. usually i find software too fidly...i wanna something i can "play".? - Original Message - From: "atomly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [313] top 13 for 4/20 -&- laptop thread > [tim maughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > so whts everyone running on their laptops? cubase? rebirth? anyone using > > reason live yet? and are people playing continuous sets or individual > > tracks? > > Kid606 runs Logic on one and Reaktor on the other. > > I use just Reaktor and a live PA thing that I made: > http://www.atomly.com/image/atomly_live_pa.jpg > > In fact, Reaktor accounts for a good portion of the techno/IDM live > sets. > > I've (thankfully) never seen an all Rebirth live PA. I think Reason's > new enought that nobody's done it yet or at least very few have. > > -- > :: atomly :: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: [313] LA 313ers...correction
actually the party is tomorrow...saturday here's the info April 21 2001 / Hollywood Athletic Club Taking place the 1st and 3rd Saturday of each month. 6525 Sunset Blvd. Hollywood CA, 90028 Featuring three rooms of musical enjoyment, multiple lounge areas, and a spacious outdoor smoking patio. 4 21 01 Room 1 Stacey Pullen Robin Porter Omar Room 2 Steve Gerrard (U.K.) TJR Dani M. Eric Jordan Room 3 (Velvet Lounge) Syrena Plus special guests... 9pm-3am 21+ clubbing info 323 962 3652 $10 before 10pm-$20 after Express tickets available at www.01-LA.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
LA 313ers
For those in LA, Stacey Pullen is playing tonight at the Hollywood Athletic Center. Also I got handed a flyer a few weeks ago for a small ritzy LA club night called Motion that has Juan Atkins listed as a rotating house (house as in jack not as in resident) dj, has anyone checked this out? His name is given equal weight to local djs so I wonder if the promoters of this night even have a clue about Juan's past ? Just wondering. Hurlbot
Music + math
Honestly, if you're really good at math, and that's your thing, you could probably handle some more fundamental programming environments for music. I know there are books out there that teach you to build music objects and program sequences in C code. If you're familiar with C and are good at math you could probably do well with that. One level up are graphical programming environments such as cycling '74's MAX/MSP bundle. As I think of it, the way you're going to be applying numbers to create music may be different than the way you're thinking about it. Rather than looking into applications of the numbers in a traditional composition environment, you might find that you are applying your knowledge of higher math to programming sound structures and constructing sequencing environments from which you can compose and manipulate. One list that may be good for this is the microsound digest I belong to. Don't read it that much myself, but people on the list do work with numbers (some). Also if you haven't, check out Cycling '74 's web site for info about the MAX and MSP programming environments. Peace- DBIT
On-Line MP3 Mixes
In addition to the sites already mentioned, I would like to add: http://www.techno.cz/ Tons of stuff there. My fav is the DJ Mary tech-house set (it's actually a bunch of chain reaction stuff). http://www.713tekno.net/ I downloaded several 2 hour mixes from here. I actually found 2 hour sets from Claude Young, Surgeon, and Marco Carola! But they changed their site and I didn't see them the last time I checked. http://www.adapteri.com/betoni/ Just went there the other night to get the Osm mix. Good luck, elpH. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
