Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history
I would like to see a comprehensive Detroit techno and Chicago house chronology of the music year by year. It may be more practical and cost effective to do something like this on a digital medium like CD-ROM or DVD since you would be covering a lot of ground with artist and record label discography's. Actually DVD would be ideal for this since you have the options of audio and video and it can store a vast amount of information. Techno Rebels is a good book going over the history and origins of the music but it really doesn't delve into the more obscure Detroit techno records and labels that should not be excluded from history. Of coure the elitist will disagree with me on this. on 11/8/02 5:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually - that's a really nice website. gives credit and some history to the trailblazers of Detroit music in #3 which brings me to the topic of books about the very same- to you Detroiters and Detroit historians a question - which books give the best history of Detroit music? Whether it be encyclopedia style or a more narrated story what I really love to see in a book is a discography in the back and maybe even eras broken down - ala Dan's Techno Rebels MEK
Re: (313) 8-Mile
yeah, but he's referring to Moby, so I don't know if he even knows that he is not dissing techno... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ha.. isn't it an eminem song that says something about 'no one listens to techno anyway'? On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 02:20 PM, Patrick Wacher wrote: Check out the site for Eminem's film... a href=http://mail.peoplepc.com/jump/http://www.8-mile.com;http://www.8-mile.com/a/ It's a Flash based site with plenty of things to see and do... If you pull down the map of Detroit and click on #3, you'll get a brief history of Detroit Techno! (Moby definately excluded! ;) Anyway, go have a look around. Peace, Patrick. -- Southern Outpost Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 a href=http://mail.peoplepc.com/jump/http://www.southernoutpost.com;http://www.southernoutpost.com/a p:+61 412 313 151 f:+ 612 9032 6046 -- TJJ ~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
RE: (313) Ohio
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Grammenos, Peter wrote: It's actually Todd Sines, Titonton Duvante, and Charles Noel (Archetype) that are linked. They started a band way back when (Charles DJ'd for them) and then split off and did their own thing a little while later. There exist pictures, taken back in the day, by a sometime 313 member of Titonton, Todd Charles at an Ohio rave, where they all look about 12 years old. Said sometime 313 member might step and post a link to them some time -- they're pretty cute!
RE: (313) Ohio
Err 'step up and post a link' This is how you know I post straight from the dome... On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Kent williams wrote: There exist pictures, taken back in the day, by a sometime 313 member of Titonton, Todd Charles at an Ohio rave, where they all look about 12 years old. Said sometime 313 member might step and post a link to them some time -- they're pretty cute! kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cornwarning.com -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes
RE: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history
does the elitist post to this list? -Original Message- From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:46 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history I would like to see a comprehensive Detroit techno and Chicago house chronology of the music year by year. It may be more practical and cost effective to do something like this on a digital medium like CD-ROM or DVD since you would be covering a lot of ground with artist and record label discography's. Actually DVD would be ideal for this since you have the options of audio and video and it can store a vast amount of information. Techno Rebels is a good book going over the history and origins of the music but it really doesn't delve into the more obscure Detroit techno records and labels that should not be excluded from history. Of coure the elitist will disagree with me on this. on 11/8/02 5:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually - that's a really nice website. gives credit and some history to the trailblazers of Detroit music in #3 which brings me to the topic of books about the very same- to you Detroiters and Detroit historians a question - which books give the best history of Detroit music? Whether it be encyclopedia style or a more narrated story what I really love to see in a book is a discography in the back and maybe even eras broken down - ala Dan's Techno Rebels MEK
Re[2]: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history
Last week on Invisible Cracker Mom: LHI does the elitist post to this list? He'd never admit to it. - Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno Strokes of s of Defiance EP . . . soon.
Re: (313) Ohio
Kent williams wrote: On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Grammenos, Peter wrote: It's actually Todd Sines, Titonton Duvante, and Charles Noel (Archetype) that are linked. They started a band way back when (Charles DJ'd for them) and then split off and did their own thing a little while later. There exist pictures, taken back in the day, by a sometime 313 member of Titonton, Todd Charles at an Ohio rave, where they all look about 12 years old. Said sometime 313 member might step and post a link to them some time -- they're pretty cute! *innocent whistle* Those photos aren't for the faint of heart, and shouldn't be viewed out of context. Maybe someday. - Mike mike j. brown | xml/xslt: http://skew.org/xml/ denver/boulder, colorado, usa | personal: http://hyperreal.org/~mike/
(313) some sort of track id
Hi, I´ve heard a mix from gene farris, where he plays a (not so old) house track that samples (almost complete) the following: Barry Wait Ltd - Sting - Part One http://www.nuloop.com/real/Strut/strutlp020_d1.rm Anyone has an idea what it could be? It is in his live @ recordtime mix. He played it before terra deva - fresh start (iz house mix) Cheers, Maarten
Re: (313) 8-Mile
I have an interview CD from Universal Music and he elaborates and says he never liked techno, and remembers it all over Detroit radio, etc, so he knows what he's talking about. He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that he never got into it. It's a shame he can't differentiate Moby from Mills, but... Have to give Eminem props for his production, his beats on that soundtrack were really good. Inbox Message From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile Date: 09/11/2002 12:24:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org yeah, but he's referring to Moby, so I don't know if he even knows that he is not dissing techno... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(313) Legendary UK radio DJ signs to Fabric
Hmmm, when is Fabric gonna do a 313 related mix, I wonder? One from Stacey or Mr Saunderson would be nice... Subject: Legendary UK radio DJ signs to Fabric The December issue of the genre-defying Fabric Live release will be compiled by UK DJ icon John Peel. His Radio One show has been a mainstay of the stations roster for 30 years and John has been responsible for breaking more new talent than arguably anyone else in the UK. From his early days of his `Perfumed Garden' show on pirate station Radio Caroline (which broadcast from a converted fishing trawler moored in international waters off the coast of the UK) to his current late-night slot on the national broadcaster John's show has been a mish-mash of styles with one constant theme. Find the newest and best of any genre and give it some airplay. His laconic style was in direct contrast to the dire poptastic delivery of daytime radio (it still is, come to think of it) and millions of schoolkids smuggled their transistor radios under their bedsheets to drift off to sleep each night listening to his varied playlist of punk, psychedelia, mod, indie and dub reggae. For many white kids his show was their first taste of `Black' music in the UK circa 1970's and switched on many future artists (Gary Clail for one, who was to feature heavily in Peel's later playlists) to the raw vibe of Dub. His influence in the UK's music scene cannot be overstated. Daytime radio was toss, Peel's show was a glimpse of the underground and continues to be to this day. His track selection is, as expected, as eclectic a bag as you are ever likely to encounter this side of a back to mine session with The Avalanches. Spanning 50 years of music it includes tracks from Don Carlos, Trouble Funk, The Fall, The Datsuns, MC Det, Smith Selway, Joy Division and winds up with a stirring rendition of `You'll never walk alone' by the Kop Choir (He's a lifetime Liverpool F.C fan) and last but not least the Undertone's seminal `Teenage Kicks' . This is his first and last mix CD and is fitting testamant to a man who according to his lifelong friend and producer John Walters is `the single most important figure in popular music in the last 25 years'. File under `Educational' FABRICLIVE vol 7 Release date : December 2ndDistribution : DMC DMC Records Australia 211 Commercial Road South Yarra VIC 3141 Australia tel: ++ 613 9824 0944 fax: ++ 613 9824 0955
(313) Final Scratch
From my 'Business Development Specialist' source at Jands Electronics... Yup, the first stocks of C-Tick Australia Approved Final Scratch units have arrived and are in the process of being shipped out to Authorised Stanton Stockists. There are only very limited numbers of in this first shipment so if you want to be one of the first Australian DJs to get your hands on it, call your local Stanton stockist now.
Re: (313) 8-Mile
so. I went to see 8Mile yesterday (okay. first showing on opening day. I know. I'm a geek :^). It's actually a much better movie than I expected it to be, and it doesnt end with the typical Hollywood ending I was expecting either. It actually breaks away from the Purple Rain formula hinted at by the trailers. From the trailers for the movie, 8Mile looked like it would be a rags to riches slash boy meets girls story, but instead delivers an artist coming out of his shell and into his own story. Whatever your feelings about Marshall are, this movie has its moments of brilliance only when he's on screen doing what he does best: rhyming. I dare anyone not the cheer him on at the movies finale. sean - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:16 AM Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile I have an interview CD from Universal Music and he elaborates and says he never liked techno, and remembers it all over Detroit radio, etc, so he knows what he's talking about. He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that he never got into it. It's a shame he can't differentiate Moby from Mills, but... Have to give Eminem props for his production, his beats on that soundtrack were really good. Inbox Message From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile Date: 09/11/2002 12:24:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org yeah, but he's referring to Moby, so I don't know if he even knows that he is not dissing techno... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: (313) 8-Mile
that's an excellent thing to read, sean -- the media coverage of 8 Mile, even well beyond Detroit, has been really outrageous. Witness the appearance of Eminem on the cover of last Sunday's New York Times Magazine. The studios couldn't *pay* to get that kind of treatment. And I have to say, the Times article not only made me want to see the movie, but my wife, who's not usually real interested in **anything** from the hip-hop side of the world, wants to go, too. So it's good to hear a positive review here. And it's great that the plot doesn't get all Hollywood. cheers, -marc so. I went to see 8Mile yesterday (okay. first showing on opening day. I know. I'm a geek :^). It's actually a much better movie than I expected it to be, and it doesnt end with the typical Hollywood ending I was expecting either. It actually breaks away from the Purple Rain formula hinted at by the trailers. From the trailers for the movie, 8Mile looked like it would be a rags to riches slash boy meets girls story, but instead delivers an artist coming out of his shell and into his own story. Whatever your feelings about Marshall are, this movie has its moments of brilliance only when he's on screen doing what he does best: rhyming. I dare anyone not the cheer him on at the movies finale. sean - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:16 AM Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile I have an interview CD from Universal Music and he elaborates and says he never liked techno, and remembers it all over Detroit radio, etc, so he knows what he's talking about. He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that he never got into it. It's a shame he can't differentiate Moby from Mills, but... Have to give Eminem props for his production, his beats on that soundtrack were really good. Inbox Message From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile Date: 09/11/2002 12:24:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org yeah, but he's referring to Moby, so I don't know if he even knows that he is not dissing techno... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: (313) 8-Mile
techno has never been all over Detroit radio it used to be on 88.7 at midnight or so when motor was braodcasting live but that's about it On Sat, 09 Nov 2002, Cyclone Wehner wrote: I have an interview CD from Universal Music and he elaborates and says he never liked techno, and remembers it all over Detroit radio, etc, so he knows what he's talking about. He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that he never got into it. It's a shame he can't differentiate Moby from Mills, but... Have to give Eminem props for his production, his beats on that soundtrack were really good. Inbox Message From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile Date: 09/11/2002 12:24:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org yeah, but he's referring to Moby, so I don't know if he even knows that he is not dissing techno... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TJJ ~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: (313) 8-Mile
Well, it has been here and there (e.g., Deep Space, old sets by The Wizard and at sundry places on the dial, usually in late-night slots), but it certainly has NOT ever been all over the radio. That's a good chunk of the reason behind the mystery of techno being an international phenomenon yet often an enigma to Detroiters. jeff At 08:50 AM 11/9/2002, T.J.Johnson wrote: techno has never been all over Detroit radio it used to be on 88.7 at midnight or so when motor was braodcasting live but that's about it On Sat, 09 Nov 2002, Cyclone Wehner wrote: I have an interview CD from Universal Music and he elaborates and says he never liked techno, and remembers it all over Detroit radio, etc,
(313) hurley and pullen mix sets
Stacey's set was an edited version from a six hour + set, it was very diverse! It's VERY Detroit coz Stacey is from Detroit. Cyclone, member of 'Stacey's Angels', defenders of the funk, or something like that! Inbox Message From: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) hurley and pullen mix sets Date: 31/10/2002 20:16:43 To: 313 313@hyperreal.org this satdee night on 2jjj (10pm e.s.t. - Australia) has a 90 min set from Steve Silk Hurley and a 90 min set from Stacey Pullen + short interviews with both The Hurley mix is ok. Dunno what happened to the skills and the records he had when he was part of the Hotmix 5but he drops a few chi classics and nice disco stuff amongst his newer club soulful palava. His interview is cool talks a little about djs not having the same sort of skills they did back in the day and also a lil about his fallout with Farley Jackmaster over Love Can't Turn Around - cool dude The Pullen mix is 90mins taken live from a Melb gig - his usual apparently diverse eurotechno/house mix. neither are detroit really.kinda peripheral though and worthy of a listen live streams: http://www.abc.net.au/streaming/triplej.ram (realplayer link) http://www.abc.net.au/streaming/triplej.asx (windows media player) and then archived instantly after at: http://triplej.abc.net.au/mixup/sets/default.htm worth a listen
Re: (313) 8-Mile
88.9 at midnight brave new waves and whatever liz copelands show is. - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile techno has never been all over Detroit radio it used to be on 88.7 at midnight or so when motor was braodcasting live but that's about it On Sat, 09 Nov 2002, Cyclone Wehner wrote: I have an interview CD from Universal Music and he elaborates and says he never liked techno, and remembers it all over Detroit radio, etc, so he knows what he's talking about. He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that he never got into it. It's a shame he can't differentiate Moby from Mills, but... Have to give Eminem props for his production, his beats on that soundtrack were really good. Inbox Message From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile Date: 09/11/2002 12:24:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org yeah, but he's referring to Moby, so I don't know if he even knows that he is not dissing techno... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TJJ ~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
(313) people of the sun
is this track by theo parrish ever released? it´s dep. Cheerio, Maarten
Re: (313) 8-Mile
right on. i guess that is what i was getting at in my original post. when mr. mathers dissed moby, he wasn't dissing techno music, but rather commercialized techno music (eg trip hop, etc)... that's all... On Sat, 09 Nov 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote: Well, it has been here and there (e.g., Deep Space, old sets by The Wizard and at sundry places on the dial, usually in late-night slots), but it certainly has NOT ever been all over the radio. That's a good chunk of the reason behind the mystery of techno being an international phenomenon yet often an enigma to Detroiters. jeff At 08:50 AM 11/9/2002, T.J.Johnson wrote: techno has never been all over Detroit radio it used to be on 88.7 at midnight or so when motor was braodcasting live but that's about it On Sat, 09 Nov 2002, Cyclone Wehner wrote: I have an interview CD from Universal Music and he elaborates and says he never liked techno, and remembers it all over Detroit radio, etc, TJJ ~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: (313) 8-Mile
ok cool, but it is not all over the radio like on 101.9 105.9 107.9 95.9 and all the other popular stations. WHFR rules though! shoutz!!! ::\) wrote: 88.9 at midnight brave new waves and whatever liz copelands show is. - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile techno has never been all over Detroit radio it used to be on 88.7 at midnight or so when motor was braodcasting live but that's about it On Sat, 09 Nov 2002, Cyclone Wehner wrote: I have an interview CD from Universal Music and he elaborates and says he never liked techno, and remembers it all over Detroit radio, etc, so he knows what he's talking about. He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that he never got into it. It's a shame he can't differentiate Moby from Mills, but... Have to give Eminem props for his production, his beats on that soundtrack were really good. Inbox Message From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile Date: 09/11/2002 12:24:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org yeah, but he's referring to Moby, so I don't know if he even knows that he is not dissing techno... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TJJ ~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. a href=http://mail.peoplepc.com/jump/http://www.peoplepc.com;http://www.peoplepc.com/a TJJ ~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
(313) no subject
I didn't mean it literally, I meant as in 'when it was getting exposure'. I can't get the exact quote as the whole interview is not broken down into one track per question, which is really annoying, actually. But I usually remember quotes really well and that was the sum of it. Inbox Message From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile Date: 10/11/2002 1:50:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org techno has never been all over Detroit radio it used to be on 88.7 at midnight or so when motor was braodcasting live but that's about it
Re: (313) 8-Mile
also: one notable scene in 8Mile is filmed in the alleyway behind the Transmat offices in Eastern Market (locals some of you will recognize The Atlas building from numerous loft parties down there). sean
Re: (313) 8-Mile
Well I can play the damn CD again and painfully transcribe it, but that was the sum of what he said, that he wasn't feeling techno and he remembered it all on Detroit radio. He's Eminem, he exaggerates! :) From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile Date: 10/11/2002 3:09:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org ok cool, but it is not all over the radio like on 101.9 105.9 107.9 95.9 and all the other popular stations. WHFR rules though! shoutz!!!
Re: (313) 8-Mile
At 10:30 AM 11/9/2002, sean deason wrote: also: one notable scene in 8Mile is filmed in the alleyway behind the Transmat offices in Eastern Market (locals some of you will recognize The Atlas building from numerous loft parties down there). Speaking of Transmat, any word on Time:Space 2? And is there a US source for C2's Workout? Thx. jeff
Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history
on 11/8/02 7:38 PM, Lee Herrington IV at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does the elitist post to this list? Yes and they do not always share information. Elitism has always been a part of Detroit techno and underground dance music culture a social and political aspect to the music.
Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history
dear techno -- It's nice to see you can couple a good, fresh insight to a troll. Because you're right -- the old-school elitism of the NW side GQ cliques was very palpable, and has been documented well in interview sources. Your reminder even makes the self-justifying marginalization of disagreement implicit in your original post much more bearable. But doesn't this also mean it would be more Detroit techno of us not only to disagree, but also to withhold more information? If so, I will continue to do so, and shut up now. -marc At 6:46 PM -0600 11/8/02, techno wrote: Of coure the elitist will disagree with me on this. At 8:38 PM -0500 11/8/02, Lee Herrington IV wrote: does the elitist post to this list? At 11:05 AM -0600 11/9/02, techno wrote: Yes and they do not always share information. Elitism has always been a part of Detroit techno and underground dance music culture a social and political aspect to the music.
Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history
The funny thing is, I've never noticed any elitism in the Detroit techno music business until I joined this list. It's interesting how the internet helps shape the world... marc christensen wrote: dear techno -- It's nice to see you can couple a good, fresh insight to a troll. Because you're right -- the old-school elitism of the NW side GQ cliques was very palpable, and has been documented well in interview sources. Your reminder even makes the self-justifying marginalization of disagreement implicit in your original post much more bearable. But doesn't this also mean it would be more Detroit techno of us not only to disagree, but also to withhold more information? If so, I will continue to do so, and shut up now. -marc At 6:46 PM -0600 11/8/02, techno wrote: Of coure the elitist will disagree with me on this. At 8:38 PM -0500 11/8/02, Lee Herrington IV wrote: does the elitist post to this list? At 11:05 AM -0600 11/9/02, techno wrote: Yes and they do not always share information. Elitism has always been a part of Detroit techno and underground dance music culture a social and political aspect to the music. TJJ ~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history
Can we move this discussion to the 313-elite mailing list please? I believe the server forwards messages on a wireless network inside Lafayette Coney Island. -d On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 01:21 PM, marc christensen wrote: dear techno -- It's nice to see you can couple a good, fresh insight to a troll. Because you're right -- the old-school elitism of the NW side GQ cliques was very palpable, and has been documented well in interview sources. Your reminder even makes the self-justifying marginalization of disagreement implicit in your original post much more bearable. But doesn't this also mean it would be more Detroit techno of us not only to disagree, but also to withhold more information? If so, I will continue to do so, and shut up now. -marc At 6:46 PM -0600 11/8/02, techno wrote: Of coure the elitist will disagree with me on this. At 8:38 PM -0500 11/8/02, Lee Herrington IV wrote: does the elitist post to this list? At 11:05 AM -0600 11/9/02, techno wrote: Yes and they do not always share information. Elitism has always been a part of Detroit techno and underground dance music culture a social and political aspect to the music.
(313) Elitism
Its good to hear that someone hasn't encountered any elitism or snobbery. I must say that I've had my share of awkward experiences (ain't sayin' no names!). Some people swear that everyone should know appreciate who they are, what they've done, what they stand for. I came from a background of mostly hip hop when I began mingling with tech types, hardly knew anything about C2 when he signed me. It was cool 'cause he didn't take it all weird or anything. I was just a dude experimenting with whatever sounds he felt like. People need to make up their minds: either you love something and want to foster an environment where other folks can discover learn to love it also, or you're an a**hole who wants to decrease the size of the pond in order to be a bigger fish. I graduated high school I like it that way! I also realize that for someone relatively new to this milieu, I came with my own set of insecurities that amplified any ill vibes, and occasionally I created or imagined them when there were originally none to be found. But anyway, a person should never have to endure being chuckled or snarled @ for inquiring who someone is, or what their contributions are to the tiny little electronic music universe, sheesh! JPH. From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 10:51:28 -0800 (PST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history The funny thing is, I've never noticed any elitism in the Detroit techno music business until I joined this list. It's interesting how the internet helps shape the world...
Re: (313) 8-Mile
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, T.J.Johnson wrote: yeah, but he's referring to Moby, so I don't know if he even knows that he is not dissing techno... given one piece of anecdotal information (mathers was spotted at the wizard's return back in...march was it?) i think he knows. peace lks
Re: (313) 8-Mile
On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, T.J.Johnson wrote: techno has never been all over Detroit radio it used to be on 88.7 at midnight or so when motor was braodcasting live but that's about it no. it DID used to be all over detroit radio. go back about 17 years. peace lks
(313) hi! i want to join to your list. thanx.
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