(313) CARL CRAIG: DETROIT VETERAN DEFENDING TECHNO!
http://www.burntblue.com/music/ Intertesting interview, the post-techno Carl Craig is a little too eclectic for my taste but maybe his new mix CD is worth checking out.
Re: (313) CARL CRAIG: DETROIT VETERAN DEFENDING TECHNO!
- Original Message - From: techno [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:00 AM Subject: (313) CARL CRAIG: DETROIT VETERAN DEFENDING TECHNO! http://www.burntblue.com/music/ Intertesting interview, the post-techno Carl Craig is a little too eclectic for my taste but maybe his new mix CD is worth checking out. Am I the only one who is a little dissapointed by 'The Workout'? I was s impressed by his set @ DEMF '02 that I thought it signaled a new mixing style for him, but since then, he has seemed to slip back in to an almost stale role. I like most of the tracks on 'The Workout', and most of the tracks he played at 93 Feet East when he played here in London (I missed the 5-hour set @ Bridge Tunnel the next night), but am I alone in feeling like something is missing from the energy he brought early this Summer, where he felt like a 'top10 DJ's in the world' kind of act in May, or am I the only one that's surprised he hasn't stepped it up a little higher? I am really surprised he hasn't incorporated more broken beat material post-2000 Black, but that may be a personal bias. I guess I'm just perceiving a conservative essence I've never seen before and it freaks me out. I miss what he had at DEMF '02. I can't help but judge him by the standard he set for himself that night, and I think that's perfectly fair. He elevated himself. I would like to see more of that. Then again, I've never been a father, so what do I know? Disclaimer: Carl Craig is my hero. No one else has influenced my musical development more than him. I mean absolutely no disrespect by these comments. On the contrary, I respect him *so much* I want to see him live up to the standards I hold for him, because he has never failed me before. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
RE: (313) SLICES #3
just a reminder too that johnny is playing in ghent (next week i think?), Yup he did :) and you really don't wanna miss it if you live nearby; his sets are amazing! I really enjoyed his set so i have to agree with this, oh and every DJ who drops Frankie Knuckles 'Your Love' is my hero anyway :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
RE: (313) books on techno: more brilliant than the sun
Ive always avoided this book as ive seen kodwo on a few music documentaries and he always seems to be completely up his own a$$ :-Original Message- :From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 6:39 PM :To: Ron; 313 :Subject: Re: (313) books on techno: more brilliant than the sun : :absolutely crucial is Kodwo Eshun's More Brilliant Than the Sun: :Adventures :In Sonic Fiction, a freaked-out exploration of the mutations and forms of :Black Atlantic Futurism from Miles to Drexcya. the book reads like how :Kool Keith might lecture if he were a professor in late 20th century :African American music. : :I'd be really interested to hear 313ers' reactions to this one... : :0d : : : hi, : after some people mentioned some books : i got more interested in books about detroit, : its music and its history : can anybody compile a list of book somebody : has to have...smile : regards ron :
RE: (313) books on techno: more brilliant than the sun
Neil Wallace: Ive always avoided this book as ive seen kodwo on a few music documentaries and he always seems to be completely up his own a$$ Thank God it's not just me who thinks this! I never watch Newsnight Review! Having said that, he's written some excellent articles I still refer to his Basic Channel thing in 'Wire' - I think, 1996(?)
RE: (313) SLICES #3
Nice one KJ! Care to tell us what the party was like? Who else played - and how's the venue? Ken -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:23 AM To: 'nicole'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) SLICES #3 just a reminder too that johnny is playing in ghent (next week i think?), Yup he did :) and you really don't wanna miss it if you live nearby; his sets are amazing! I really enjoyed his set so i have to agree with this, oh and every DJ who drops Frankie Knuckles 'Your Love' is my hero anyway :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
(313) Sampling?
http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/23/uk.silence/index.html
RE: (313) books on techno: more brilliant than the sun
Neil Wallace: Ive always avoided this book as ive seen kodwo on a few music documentaries and he always seems to be completely up his own a$$ I attended a guest lecture by Kodwo last year at the Art Institute of Chicago. The lecture focused specifically on Herbert's Bodily Functions, the Matmos Liposuction album, and Bjork's latest work - he used these to represent the newest incarnation of sample based music and how the role of samples in music has undergone functional and conceptual rediscovery over the years with the changing technologies. All this said, I've always looked at Kodwo as an Art Historian who has good taste in music - and as such, he does usually spew a lot of sh!t that is irrelelvant to the music just to reassure him of his own intelligence (no offense to art historians on the list). But on the other hand, at least he is spreading interest in good music- he reaches an audience that would not necessarily be embracing electronic music were it not for the intellectual discussions that he brings to the table. peace, p
RE: (313) books on techno: more brilliant than the sun
Thanks for pointing out some books to read on the evolution of Techno. I found that one of the most amazingly written books on electronic music from the beginning is: Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture; by Simon Reynolds. The opening chapter which he refers to as the beginning is about the Detroit Three: Kevin Saunderson, Juan Atkins and Derrick May I found his writing style to be quite entertaining. He charts the timelines of Techno, House, Garage, Trance, Jungle, Gabber...etc. from North America to Europe. There are a lot of quotes from electronic music pioneers which he uses liberally throught his work. He covers not only partying, but radio stations, pressing, labels as well as style (like the mode of dress, and paraphenlia...) A great read IMHO. cheers K. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: (313) books on techno: more brilliant than the sun
Thanks for pointing out some books to read on the evolution of Techno. I found that one of the most amazingly written books on electronic music from the beginning is: Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture; by Simon Reynolds. Could it be some other version of Energy Flash, by the same The Wire journalist ? Energy Flash came with an excellent CD, and even if I agree that Reynolds' view re : class and drugs can be questionable, it is an excellent read, the records lists at the end of each chapter are worth the book alone IMHO. Gwendal
Re: (313) interesting stuff - Footwork, Stuff
HI everyone, sorry for being a bit late on the return with this one: GOOD. As many smart labels have figured out the deepest headz are brave enough to handle the switch-ups in tempos and styles within a single label (Planet E, also to some degree also Rush Hour, Archive, Kindrid Spirits, Delsin, etc. to name a few. Also other Glasgow labels are on a roll, how about their other great genre-bending labels like Iridide and Emoticon too?) I spoke to Tom Churchill (Emoticon) last week when he was in Amsterdam and he was discussing a new project he was releasing in a Masters At Work/Jazzy Bassline/Off Beat drums vein- good for the genre-busting points and good for music in general. There is a fine balance between picking up a labels releases and being pleasantly surprised by a carefully chosen departure from the norm and the other extreme where you just don't know what to expect next. A lot of people don't like to to be too confused by label's output- we were criticised occasionally on our first release for having too many styles on one record- it wasn't an overly eclectic choice we thought, it wasn't a Coil/Kylie mash up or anything. In the future Iridite will definitely be releasing more House oriented tracks and if the quality is right, Hip Hop and anything else we can get our hands on. Distributors definitely aren't too keen on multi themed releases but it seems distributors aren't too keen on ANYTHING these days :) Cheers Jason Brunton Iridite peace, Matt
RE: (313) books on techno: more brilliant than the sun
the records lists at the end of each chapter are worth the book alone IMHO. Definately agree with that. He has written a lot of works on this subject, I think this is the best. His opinions should be taken with a grain of salt, but his commentary is flawless and it is easy to understand what he is saying. Whether you agree or not, is another arguement! ;0) _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
(313) OT: Friday, Nov 29 ACID PIMP, TWONZ, REX --Resurgence--
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(313) Tunes
Well i have just been shopping and I bought a lovely Derrick Carter tune called People on Robsoul..man that has to be pure feeling I hear :) very nice --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/02
RE: (313) books on techno: more brilliant than the sun
I'm not about to defend Eshun's -- uh -- excesses in More Brilliant than the Sun. He has a tendency to throw a lot of stuff about, and frankly a lot of it is more like an academic version of scat-poetry than serious analysis. (I've always liked that he included fiction in the subtitle -- it's appropriate.) But if you're willing to follow along, and excuse the sometimes excessive dips into self-created jargon, he has some interesting ideas. No digging for a needle in a haystack -- they're good, fairly big ideas. But they sit alongside the specialized terms he invents, and you just have to be willing to accept that he uses his own ridiculous shorthand for things. Often, I don't like his terms, or his willingness to invent dozens of terms that don't really hold water, but I do like some of his ideas. And his attitude, which might not be great for hangin' out with, is perfect for approaching Sun-Ra, and the Martian, or the pre-revealed Drexciya. Who else besides Dan S. went out of their way to demonstrate **belief** in the stories of extraterrestrial (or subaquatic) origins that these acts clearly saw as part of the deal? And he's even got an almost cute kind of belligerence in defending that. (For this alone, he ought to be adored by candy ravers everywhere who still believe in Santa Claus.) Fair enough? -marc PS. I'd still rather read Eshun's writing, which can be hard to take, than Simon Reynolds', whose work is easier to read and easier still to disagree with. Reynolds basically calls all of 313 purist wusses, worshipping a dead-end aesthetic. All because not enough of us, apparently, take as many freakin' drugs as he would like us to. As the KMS website used to ask -- do you want the red pill, or the green one? At 11:11 AM + 11/25/02, Neil Wallace wrote: Ive always avoided this book as ive seen kodwo on a few music documentaries and he always seems to be completely up his own a$$
