RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sounds
BAM!!! ZOOM!!! ZIP!!! On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Allen Goodman wrote: When I was small I had a book filled with onomatopoeias, needless to say it never came ofmuch use till I became interested in electronic music. Maybe Ill dig it up for you. ;) its definately a tricky line , writing about techno for those who know AND those who don't . really hard to describe sounds that are often made just to sound unlike anything else. On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Quest Pond wrote: Sent: 05 September 2003 4:49 PM To: Quest Pond; Tom Churchill; Lee Herrington IV; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? Not being a producer or a DJ, I couldn't give two figs how something is made, I just wanna hear it. Maybe I should give a sh!t but it bores me when I hear such talk. I wasn't talking about interviews anyway, I was talking about reviews and if I can't understand what the reviewer is referring to when he's talking about gates and flanges, I'm not going to get a good idea of what it sounds like. Not that I pay much attention to reviews anyway - I tend to just use them as a guide to what's out. -Original Message- From: Quest Pond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:42 PM To: Robert Taylor; Tom Churchill; Lee Herrington IV; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? I hate to bring this up but i totally disagree with Rob, I think too many interview are non technical. This might be quite controversial but I see little point about asking producers about the weather, politics and the club scene. Might it be the case that the main source of inspiration is racks full of funky analog equipment? Or a mad sound made by feedback loops? What is important is the music and how they made it, not what colour underwear they have. Personally i want equipment and methods, am i the only one who feels like this? Quest Pond -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 September 2003 12:43 PM To: Tom Churchill; Lee Herrington IV; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? I wondered what that meant - I've always read about lush pads in techno reviews, especially of Detroit sh!t. I hate the fact that many electronic music reviews assume you know all about the technology involved in making the music. -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:40 AM To: Lee Herrington IV; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? hi folks. i've read the term, pad sound, from time to time on this list. could someone provide me with a definition of this phrase? In synthesiser terminology, a pad is a sustained, warm, string-like sound normally heard in long chords. Synthetic strings, basically... Cheers, Tom ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ### ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ### -- Allen Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.fksche.com
Re: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sounds
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quest Pond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:29 PM Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sounds its definately a tricky line , writing about techno for those who know AND those who don't . really hard to describe sounds that are often made just to sound unlike anything else. Synth terminology shouldn't be out-of-bounds for reviews. We write for an audience that is presumably fairly clued in. If I cite 'overcompression, 'warm pads' or 'square-wave rave tones', I think that even those who aren't producing would at least be able to associate something to the description. Some people who have never seen a sequencer know that Swedish techno invoked the world of overcompression. If you don't use these terms, there is a severe descriptive void that is otherwise very difficult to fill, so there's no communicative ground lost, even if the solution is less-than ideal. Perhaps the jargon of synth/sample terminology is a bit exclusionary, but it's not like envoking music theory, advanced production techniques or circuit jargon. These are the best terms we have to describe sounds that don't have traditional names like 'guitar', piano' or 'harp'. I don't see these descriptions as being any different, and the learning curve to acquaint yourself with these terms is pretty slim. If you want to read about techno, you shouldn't be a technophobe, which doesn't mean you need to be a technophile. At bottom, you can't separate techno criticism from technique. Other musics don't rely on technique in the same way. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad
'square-wave rave tone' every record needa a square-wave rave tone
Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
Don't forget Underworld's remix of 'Human Behavior'. It's very nice - pre-Underworld-gone-sh*t. There was also a Sabres of Paradise mix that had a '4/4' pattern, but relatively slow, at about 105 bpm. Can't recall which track it was - something off the first album. Probably my favorite Bjork remix (my copy was stolen, so apologies for lack of details). It was really f*cking good. It came off of a 6 track CD with remixes from Black Dog as well. An excellent CD. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
The best Bjork remix, imo, is Alec Empire's remix of Bachelorette Totally insane. On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 00:39:09 +0100, Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget Underworld's remix of 'Human Behavior'. It's very nice - pre-Underworld-gone-sh*t. There was also a Sabres of Paradise mix that had a '4/4' pattern, but relatively slow, at about 105 bpm. Can't recall which track it was - something off the first album. Probably my favorite Bjork remix (my copy was stolen, so apologies for lack of details). It was really f*cking good. It came off of a 6 track CD with remixes from Black Dog as well. An excellent CD. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -DJ Entropy (bhpc, elemental compounds, planet muzik, ingrooves, boston) *supporting Pure Hardcore since 1987* *being a RavePainTM since 1995* *Save electronic Music - buy a guitar* http://www.djentropy.com http://www.elementalcompounds.com http://www.planetmuzik.net http://www.ingrooves.com http://www.ishkur.com/features/suckysites/index.htm
Re: (313) Without Words....
- Original Message - From: MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Re: (313) Without Words Hell yea this is a nice piece.. It is DSP and not analog but that doesn't necessarily mean anything... I am just an analog freak... But i plan on getting a monomachine and machine drum, and i'm looking at the Nord Modular G2 as well. Then i will have enough DSP. i'm not a big fan of virtual analog/DSP/analog modeling. but the Mono Machine , Machine Drum, and Nord Modular G2 are so freaking powerful your almost stupid not to get 1 or all of them, if you can afford them (i know i have been saving my coin) After that its back to REAL circuits, and resistors and stuff. mmm nothing can beat that warm analog buzz...i love it!!! I know this is probably better suited to the gear list, but I couldn't agree more with this assessment. I love my Nord Modular, and the Machine Drum is the most impressive drum machine in the last 15 years. I don't have much use for outboard gear anymore, but these options make the case very well. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Quest Pond [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:37 AM Subject: Re: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad 'square-wave rave tone' every record needa a square-wave rave tone Check the new Atjazz remixes of Slope for an excellent example of this - if we're working towards our lexicon of easy-to-grasp techno journalism. :) Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) SoulSeek (was: Re: (313) BRITISH MURDER BOYS LIVE @ T-FUNKSHUN [...])
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: soulseek seems to be down... maybe it's just my end of the Internet? No, it's not down - they lost their Domain Registration, so they've disappeared from the DNS. (Oops.) If you're using the Windows SoulSeek client, the simplest fix is: Find your hosts file. In Windows XP it is C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts In Windows 2000 it is C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts I'm not sure what it is in 98/ME/95. Now open the file with Notepad. Add these four lines to the very bottom of the file: 38.115.131.131 sk2.slsk.org 38.115.131.131 www.slsk.org 38.115.131.131 mail.slsk.org 38.115.131.131 server.slsk.org Go to http://slskboard.SavageNews.COM/index.php and click on the top-most Soulseek - Technical issues Forum link for more info. - Greg (who only runs Windows 2000 Pro inside VMware to run SoulSeek)
Re: (313) SoulSeek (was: Re: (313) BRITISH MURDER BOYS LIVE @ T-FUNKSHUN [...])
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:35:51 -0700, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: soulseek seems to be down... maybe it's just my end of the Internet? No, it's not down - they lost their Domain Registration, so they've disappeared from the DNS. (Oops.) If you're using the Windows SoulSeek client, the simplest fix is: Find your hosts file. In Windows XP it is C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts In Windows 2000 it is C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts I'm not sure what it is in 98/ME/95. Now open the file with Notepad. Add these four lines to the very bottom of the file: 38.115.131.131 sk2.slsk.org 38.115.131.131 www.slsk.org 38.115.131.131 mail.slsk.org 38.115.131.131 server.slsk.org Thanks for that! Appreciated. :) -- -DJ Entropy (bhpc, elemental compounds, planet muzik, ingrooves, boston) *supporting Pure Hardcore since 1987* *being a RavePainTM since 1995* *Save electronic Music - buy a guitar* http://www.djentropy.com http://www.elementalcompounds.com http://www.planetmuzik.net http://www.ingrooves.com http://www.ishkur.com/features/suckysites/index.htm http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/hot/entropy-sitting.jpg
Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
human behavior, underworld remix -- (ed: about the sickest[sic] mix i can think of) cover me, photek mix (ed; also a fav)
Re: (313) new online mix
Cheers mate... quite funny mix. Nice mixing. Good club tracks. Thanks for sharing, Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/ I posted a recent mix online at my site: www.zacharylubin.com 34 tracks, 3 turntables: 8.03 rhythim is rhythim. icon. transmat grain. untitled. fatcat s. b. project. unconscious behaviour. clubtracks/cosmic stephen brown. status bytes. djax-up-beats dj pete. latifah. counterbalance british murder boys. learn your lesson. counterbalance cold dust. remix ep1 (umek rmx). red seal querida.#1. deta diego. from here to now. kanzleramt outline. first contact. blueprint dj shufflemaster. exp. tresor raoul delgardo. bricklayer (r. harvey rmx). im echoplex. world energy ep. soleil echoplex/damon wild. niteworks pt.3. synewave v/a. the remix ep (steve bicknell rmx). cosmic jeff mills. axis 9b. axis steve rachmad. one side. scorp mark bernard. load. dance mania psychic warfare. part man part machine. black nation shapesforms. blueprint ep. restructured marco carola. #6. question mainx. 88 to piano rmx. hithouse lost recordings #2. how can we know? cosmic joe louis. robotic. relief james ruskin. is it really me? tresor s.b. project. unconscious behaviour. clubtracks/cosmic pacou. sound:structure. speaker attack rolando/g. mitchell. son dos. los hermanos female. pelotone. downwards paul mac. (untitled lock groove). stimulus l.a. synthesis. agraphobia (kenny larkin rmx). plink plonk oliver ho. listening to the voices inside. meta grain. untitled. fatcat rolando. jaguar (mayday mix). 430 west
RE: (313) new online mix
Yeah, I dig it - wheres the 192kbps version? :) |-Original Message- |From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 06 September 2003 11:51 |To: Zachary Lubin; Global Techno; 313 List |Subject: Re: (313) new online mix | | |Cheers mate... | |quite funny mix. Nice mixing. Good club tracks. | |Thanks for sharing, |Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/ | | I posted a recent mix online at my site: | www.zacharylubin.com | | 34 tracks, 3 turntables: | 8.03 | | rhythim is rhythim. icon. transmat | grain. untitled. fatcat | s. b. project. unconscious behaviour. | clubtracks/cosmic | stephen brown. status bytes. djax-up-beats | dj pete. latifah. counterbalance | british murder boys. learn your lesson. counterbalance | cold dust. remix ep1 (umek rmx). red seal | querida.#1. deta | diego. from here to now. kanzleramt | outline. first contact. blueprint | dj shufflemaster. exp. tresor | raoul delgardo. bricklayer (r. harvey rmx). im | echoplex. world energy ep. soleil | echoplex/damon wild. niteworks pt.3. synewave | v/a. the remix ep (steve bicknell rmx). cosmic | jeff mills. axis 9b. axis | steve rachmad. one side. scorp | mark bernard. load. dance mania | psychic warfare. part man part machine. black nation | shapesforms. blueprint ep. restructured | marco carola. #6. question | mainx. 88 to piano rmx. hithouse | lost recordings #2. how can we know? cosmic | joe louis. robotic. relief | james ruskin. is it really me? tresor | s.b. project. unconscious behaviour. clubtracks/cosmic | pacou. sound:structure. speaker attack | rolando/g. mitchell. son dos. los hermanos | female. pelotone. downwards | paul mac. (untitled lock groove). stimulus | l.a. synthesis. agraphobia (kenny larkin rmx). plink | plonk | oliver ho. listening to the voices inside. meta | grain. untitled. fatcat | rolando. jaguar (mayday mix). 430 west |
Re: (313) Bjork Recommendations...
tuneintuition wrote:
Has anyone done any sick Bjork remixes that could be used in a
techno/electro set... not that Homogenic isn't dancefloor, but maybe
something more clearcut made specifically for our pleasure.
i've got a copy of bjork the remixes ('for people who don't buy white
labels')
with two black dog remixes, an underworld remix, and one more. very nice,
from what i can remember, don't think i've listened to it over the past 6
years or so...
jurren
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(313) .trackID
From Steve Bug's set at 10 Days Off: http://193.74.22.144//mine/10days/main_room021.wmv at 4:30 for a bit, and then later in the mix he plays the whole track, but I forget when. Kind of a dramatic latin techno track that I hear fairly often. Thanks. It's a streamer so you can't skip ahead :( But its a damn good set too. _ hurlbot www.hurlbotics.com/mp3 _
(313) NYC residents?
Hey folks, Anyone living in NYC and willing to answer some questions about the city? Hit me up offline. You'll have my undying gratitude. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
Re: (313) [OT] best broken beats dj ?
oke I checked dirty.com but the Titonton mix wasn't broken at all the gilb'r mix is super btw can't stop playing that one thxs all for the replies got to check the other ones later I got to keep on moving ! ;) RAW - Original Message - From: KiDDy*RaVeR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ThReE-oNe-ThReE 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:14 AM Subject: Re: (313) [OT] best broken beats dj ? You can check the one saved on www.d-i-r-t-y.com He did a set here in Paris in early August. Pretty faithful to his energy. What a craze! :) - KiDD*e* - Original Message - From: David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:02 AM Subject: Re: (313) [OT] best broken beats dj ? I saw him djing in NYC last year. Wow! So much energy. Cutting it up, scratching back and forth. Some of the best broken beat tunes I've heard. Does anyone know of any Titonton broken beat mixes online?
