(313) Review magas /luke eargoggle /counter-couture
I must say i had a great time at detroit contempory on fri sept 5. counter-couture was pretty interesting, played some good music, it did seem like he was having a hard time switching sequences and sounds between songs. but once it was going the sounds were very nice. some of his tracks had a krafterk/rother feel to them and a couple had a more red planet on electro feel. luke eargoggle, i came down to see this guy. i have a couple of his releases on bunker. i was very pleased with lukes set. he played mostly work i was unfamiliar with, but i must say i probable would not have recognized them anyways. he used a mpc2k and was mixing his sounds from one track to the other. the only track i picked out as being an lp version was audio warrior (get this bunker release). but i did recognize some sounds/loops from track and they had different basslines or leads. i talked with him and he said he mixes his track together. with very good results IMO. magas was very cool, the stage presents he has was worth the $7 itself. i not as familiar with his work as i am with lukes. i will say his sound was very simular from song to song. he must really like square wave synths? but the energy he puts out on stage is what i imagine iggy used to put out back in the day. yea i still have the stooges/sonic youth show ba-bouncing around in my inner ear. he played a new track that magas and luke are working on together, but luke declined to sing so it was an insturmental. i really want to hear the finished product there. but like i said it was a great show, talked with loads of people i dont get to see often. but did not see many of the listie i know. the show wasn't over crowded but there was a good amount of bodies. -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
(313) Theo Parrish Interview and Overload Farewell
These are sad times for the internet. The Overload site and forum were a Godsend for me. This interview and preamble help to articulate some of what I will miss: http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/archives/interviews/theo_parrish.php Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Interview and Overload Farewell
Phonopsia said: These are sad times for the internet. The Overload site and forum were a Godsend for me. I deleted the email, but Overload got saved. I can't remember who, but some kind individuals will be financially backing Overload. I think they'll be overhauling the site also... or something like that. dave.
Re: (313) O-T: sample search
Well they claim not to use samples. Both play multiple instruments. The closest they get is to listen to a record and recreate the vibe. -- From: Stephen Burd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) O-T: sample search Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 2:19 AM from what old song was the instrumental part of nelly's hot in here sampled? thanks :) -stephen
Re: (313) O-T: sample search
I meant The Neptunes who produced that record... -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) O-T: sample search Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 1:44 PM Well they claim not to use samples. Both play multiple instruments. The closest they get is to listen to a record and recreate the vibe. -- From: Stephen Burd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) O-T: sample search Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 2:19 AM from what old song was the instrumental part of nelly's hot in here sampled? thanks :) -stephen
Re: (313) O-T: sample search
bustin loose...lakeside b
(313) Bleep43 party - Sat 20/9
A quick update for London 313'ers - www.bleep43.com presents Bleep43 Portable* (Sud Electronics/Background Recs) Max Duley (ARCart) Val Tyne (Flux) *live Sat 20/9 @ public life 82a Commercial St London 8 - late Free b4 9.30, £3 after Cheers Toby
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Interview and Overload Farewell
- Original Message - From: David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 4:57 AM Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish Interview and Overload Farewell Phonopsia said: These are sad times for the internet. The Overload site and forum were a Godsend for me. I deleted the email, but Overload got saved. I can't remember who, but some kind individuals will be financially backing Overload. I think they'll be overhauling the site also... or something like that. Dust will be creating a similar forum, and the Overload archives will remain (other than the forum - it will be gone), but the site itself is not going to continue to produce content. Ali, Woody and the other contributors are moving on. Dust will be cool, but Overload will be missed. It was pretty definitive of underground culture here for me and many others (especially in London) in the last year (more than that for others who have been here longer). Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Hello World!
Hi Everybody, i just joined the list and felt like introducing myself. My name is Ronny Pries, 27, living in Hamburg/Germany. I make music since the late 80s, started spinning records in 91. Dunno why i haven't joined this list earlier (i felt pretty stupid when i noticed it exists for more than a half decade...) but better late than never ;) Cheers, Ronny
Re: (313) Hello World!
Welcome Ronny! - Original Message - From: Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: (313) Hello World! Hi Everybody, i just joined the list and felt like introducing myself. My name is Ronny Pries, 27, living in Hamburg/Germany. I make music since the late 80s, started spinning records in 91. Dunno why i haven't joined this list earlier (i felt pretty stupid when i noticed it exists for more than a half decade...) but better late than never ;) Cheers, Ronny
(313) kraftwerk contact/booking info
Hi i know this is a long shot but there is no harm in trying.. does anyone have any booking/contact information for kraftwerk? thanks fab
(313) record q's
morning folks. 2 q's today if anyone can help me out.? 1) That bootleg Detroit Sampler Vol 1 (white label with a black stamp) - What is the name of the Juan Atkins track on there? Is it 'sunlight'? I didn't think it was, but my mate seems to think it is 2) Mystery - Mystery Girl on Trax. Is that a rare one? Is it any good? ta! alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) kraftwerk contact/booking info
does anyone have any booking/contact information for kraftwerk? I like a man with ambition!! If you speak with EMI, they will probably provide management info... _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Summertime - Summer Madness
Summertime, a celebration of the titular season built on a sample from the Kool and the Gang classic Summer Madness. Soulseek !!!
(313) Re: Summertime - Summer Madness
Oops, please ignore last message, Mozilla was being helpful and filling in email addresses for me blush. sImon Simon M Pascoe wrote: Summertime, a celebration of the titular season built on a sample from the Kool and the Gang classic Summer Madness. Soulseek !!!
RE: (313) Re: Summertime - Summer Madness
i must add that the original 'summer madness' is easily my favourite tune of all time with the dj jazzy jeff and fresh prince coming in a close 2nd ab -Original Message- From: Simon M Pascoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: Summertime - Summer Madness Oops, please ignore last message, Mozilla was being helpful and filling in email addresses for me blush. sImon Simon M Pascoe wrote: Summertime, a celebration of the titular season built on a sample from the Kool and the Gang classic Summer Madness. Soulseek !!! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
Re: (313) Re: Summertime - Summer Madness
I didn't realise the original was Kool and the Gang, and I was about to ask the list, but decided to Google for it first. I then screwed up and emailed the Google results to the list instead of my home email address. Close, but no cigar ! Carl Craig played Summer Madness at the beginning of his set on his last visit to Plastic People (hey, I'm back on-topic again ;-) sImon PS: I would never condone the use of Soulseek or filesharing Mr RIAA cough. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i must add that the original 'summer madness' is easily my favourite tune of all time with the dj jazzy jeff and fresh prince coming in a close 2nd ab -Original Message- From: Simon M Pascoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: Summertime - Summer Madness Oops, please ignore last message, Mozilla was being helpful and filling in email addresses for me blush. sImon Simon M Pascoe wrote: Summertime, a celebration of the titular season built on a sample from the Kool and the Gang classic Summer Madness. Soulseek !!! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
Re: (313) Re: Summertime - Summer Madness
did anyone pick up the 12 of this floating around. on delite (the old disco label) with 3 mixes.. full phat pressing... needless to say it was not cheap but hey that tune is in my all time topten On Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003, at 11:46 Europe/London, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i must add that the original 'summer madness' is easily my favourite tune of all time with the dj jazzy jeff and fresh prince coming in a close 2nd ab -Original Message- From: Simon M Pascoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: Summertime - Summer Madness Oops, please ignore last message, Mozilla was being helpful and filling in email addresses for me blush. sImon Simon M Pascoe wrote: Summertime, a celebration of the titular season built on a sample from the Kool and the Gang classic Summer Madness. Soulseek !!! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 placid www.acid-house.net - Everything you wanted to know about acid house
(313) Archetype at Recycled this Wednesday [Sapphire Lounge - NYC ]
Charles Noel (aka Archetype) is in town tonight! If you haven't heard him play a dj set, you need to. with Ulysses... from Elliot: Be sure to come by this wednesday for another installment of Recycled! This month we have a rare DJ appearance by Ongaku Music recording artist Archetype. Come witness one of North America's premier minimal techno artists as he deilvers a rare DJ set. Though best known for his unqiue and innovative minimal tehcno, Archtype is a man of great musical range. Stop by and see where he can take you. Scatalogics and Native Instruments present: RECYCLED! This Wednesday, September 10th ARCHETYPE (Ongaku, Black Nation, 21/22 Corp. OH) ULYSSES (Scatalogics, Lasergun, Guidance) at Sapphire Lounge 249 Eldridge St. b/w Houston and Stanton $5 21 and over. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for guest list before noon wednesday! www.scatalogics.com www.native-instruments.de s c a t a l o g i c s 3240 46th St #2B Astoria, NY 11103 -- + SCALE : http://www.scalestudio.com/ /// connecting the space between and within.
RE: (313) Archetype at Recycled this Wednesday [Sapphire Lounge - NYC ]
Argh, I've *love* to go to that gig. I wonder if Ongaku will have a label night in London, ever. That'd be a number 1 gig for me |-Original Message- |From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 10 September 2003 14:40 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: (313) Archetype at Recycled this Wednesday [Sapphire |Lounge - NYC ] | | | |Charles Noel (aka Archetype) is in town tonight! If you |haven't heard him play a dj set, you need to. | | | | with Ulysses... | | from Elliot: | Be sure to come by this wednesday for another installment of |Recycled! | This month we have a rare DJ appearance by Ongaku Music recording | artist Archetype. Come witness one of North America's |premier minimal | techno artists as he deilvers a rare DJ set. Though best |known for his | unqiue and innovative minimal tehcno, Archtype is a man of great | musical range. Stop by and see where he can take you. | | Scatalogics and Native Instruments present: | | RECYCLED! | This Wednesday, September 10th | | ARCHETYPE (Ongaku, Black Nation, 21/22 Corp. OH) | ULYSSES (Scatalogics, Lasergun, Guidance) | | at | Sapphire Lounge | 249 Eldridge St. b/w Houston and Stanton | $5 21 and over. | email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for guest list before noon wednesday! | | www.scatalogics.com | www.native-instruments.de | | | | s c a t a l o g i c s | 3240 46th St #2B | Astoria, NY 11103 | | -- | + SCALE : http://www.scalestudio.com/ | /// | connecting the space between and within. | |
(313) OT - help, London peeps
does anyone in London know of the mastering rooms curvepusher in Hackney? I lost their number, and can't get it through directory enquiries (their co. must be registered under another name) and I can't remember the address, and they don't seem to be on the internet.. any help much appreciated. sorry to everyone else Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Re: Summertime - Summer Madness
Hi List the place with the answers to almost all these types of questions (who did the original ofetc) is the SAMPLE FAQ (now renamed) - one of my favourite ever web resources and the gateway to a magical world of soul, jazz and funk records, not to mention rock, soundtracks, library records etc etc, it's at: http://www.the-breaks.com/ Best Dan At 11:56 am +0100 10/9/03, Simon M Pascoe wrote: I didn't realise the original was Kool and the Gang, and I was about to ask the list, but decided to Google for it first. I then screwed up and emailed the Google results to the list instead of my home email address. Close, but no cigar ! Carl Craig played Summer Madness at the beginning of his set on his last visit to Plastic People (hey, I'm back on-topic again ;-) sImon PS: I would never condone the use of Soulseek or filesharing Mr RIAA cough. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i must add that the original 'summer madness' is easily my favourite tune of all time with the dj jazzy jeff and fresh prince coming in a close 2nd ab -Original Message- From: Simon M Pascoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: Summertime - Summer Madness Oops, please ignore last message, Mozilla was being helpful and filling in email addresses for me blush. sImon Simon M Pascoe wrote: Summertime, a celebration of the titular season built on a sample from the Kool and the Gang classic Summer Madness. Soulseek !!! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
(313) Keith Tucker and DJ Assault in London, 26th September
Bit of London spam here, so apologies to everyone else! Booty/ghetto-tech big cheese DJ Assault and Direct Beat head honcho Keith Tucker (aka DJ K-1) are both appearing at BASE on Friday 26th September, alongside Space DJz, Jim Masters and Colin Dale. The party is taking place at Crash, at 66 Goding Street, Vauxhall, London (nearest tube: Vauxhall), from 10pm til 6am. Tickets on the door are £12 and £10 for members; but I've managed to blag an £8 door price for 313 members, so if you are interested in coming down, let me know and I'll make sure your name is on the list! There is more information at http://www.wideadventure.com/djs.asp ... Brendan
(313) New Plastikman Video
http://magnetmus.net/pm/ Disconnect. -Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 ---
Re: (313) New Plastikman Video
At 19:11 10-9-2003, you wrote: http://magnetmus.net/pm/ Disconnect. --- Thanx! Btw, after 1 minute i found this: http://magnetmus.net/pm/disconnect_high.mpg R. (deeplinking rulez ;-) --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
(313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
someone just forwarded me this - I don't know where it's from: A shy Manhattan schoolgirl who gets a kick out of nursery songs and TV themes was among 261 people sued yesterday for downloading music from the Internet. Brianna LaHara, a curly-haired 12-year-old honor student who started seventh grade yesterday at St. Gregory the Great Catholic school on W. 90th St., couldn't believe she's one of the major offenders the music moguls are after. Oh, my God, what's going to happen now? she asked after hearing of the suit. My stomach is all in knots. Told she may have to go to court, Brianna's eyes widened behind wire-rimmed glasses and she said, I'm just shocked that of all the people that do this, I'm on the list. The Recording Industry Association of America said the suits filed yesterday included about 60 that targeted suspects in New York who downloaded more than 1,000 songs. The group blames computer users such as Brianna, who use software programs to trade music with others on the Internet, for a 30% drop in music sales. Each person sued yesterday could be liable for fines up to $150,000 for each poached track. 'Appropriate action' Experts had predicted a large number of the suits likely would name youngsters. Nobody likes playing the heavy and having to resort to litigation, but when your product is being regularly stolen, there comes a time when you have to take appropriate action, said Carey Sherman, president of the recording association.
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
She settled for 2000 bucks: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11483 On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:32:53 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone just forwarded me this - I don't know where it's from: A shy Manhattan schoolgirl who gets a kick out of nursery songs and TV themes was among 261 people sued yesterday for downloading music from the Internet. Brianna LaHara, a curly-haired 12-year-old honor student who started seventh grade yesterday at St. Gregory the Great Catholic school on W. 90th St., couldn't believe she's one of the major offenders the music moguls are after. Oh, my God, what's going to happen now? she asked after hearing of the suit. My stomach is all in knots. Told she may have to go to court, Brianna's eyes widened behind wire- rimmed glasses and she said, I'm just shocked that of all the people that do this, I'm on the list. The Recording Industry Association of America said the suits filed yesterday included about 60 that targeted suspects in New York who downloaded more than 1,000 songs. The group blames computer users such as Brianna, who use software programs to trade music with others on the Internet, for a 30% drop in music sales. Each person sued yesterday could be liable for fines up to $150,000 for each poached track. 'Appropriate action' Experts had predicted a large number of the suits likely would name youngsters. Nobody likes playing the heavy and having to resort to litigation, but when your product is being regularly stolen, there comes a time when you have to take appropriate action, said Carey Sherman, president of the recording association. -- -DJ Entropy (bhpc, elemental compounds, planet muzik, ingrooves, boston) *supporting Pure Hardcore since 1987* *being a RavePainTM since 1995* *Save electronic Music - buy a guitar* http://www.djentropy.com http://www.elementalcompounds.com http://www.planetmuzik.net http://www.ingrooves.com http://www.ishkur.com/features/suckysites/index.htm http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/hot/entropy-sitting.jpg
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
She settled for 2000 bucks: how much do you think it cost them to litigate? b
(313) Black Holes Love Bass
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/09/10/blackhole.music.reut/index.html Black hole hums deepest note ever detected Wednesday, September 10, 2003 Posted: 1:51 PM EDT (1751 GMT) WASHINGTON, Sept 9 (Reuters) -- Big black holes sing bass. One particularly monstrous black hole has probably been humming B flat for billions of years, but at a pitch no human could hear, let alone sing, astronomers said this week. The intensity of the sound is comparable to human speech, said Andrew Fabian of the Institute of Astronomy at Cambridge, England. But the pitch of the sound is about 57 octaves below middle C, roughly the middle of a standard piano keyboard. This is far, far deeper than humans can hear, the researchers said, and they believe it is the deepest note ever detected in the universe. The sound waves are emanating from the Perseus Cluster, a giant clump of galaxies some 250 million light-years from Earth. A light-year is about 6 trillion miles (10 trillion km), the distance light travels in a year. Fabian and his colleagues used NASA's orbiting Chandra X-Ray Observatory to investigate X-rays coming from the cluster's heart. Researchers presumed that a supermassive black hole, with perhaps 2.5 billion times the mass of our sun, lay there, and the activity around the center bolstered this assumption. Black holes are powerful matter-sucking drains in space, and astronomers believe most galaxies, including our own Milky Way, may contain black holes at their centers. Black holes have not been directly observed, because their gravitational pull is so strong that nothing, not even light, can escape it. Making waves So researchers have concentrated on what happens around the edges of black holes, just before matter is pulled in. When scientists trained the Chandra observatory on the center of Perseus last year, they saw concentric ripples in the cosmic gas that fills the space between the galaxies in the cluster. We're dealing with enormous scales here, Fabian said in a telephone interview. The size of these ripples is 30,000 light-years. Fabian said the ripples were caused by the rhythmic squeezing and heating of the cosmic gas by the intense gravitational pressure of the jumble of galaxies packed together in the cluster. As the black hole pulls material in, he said, it also creates jets of material shooting out above and below it, and it is these powerful jets that create the pressure that creates the sound waves. To scientists, he said, pressure ripples equate to sound waves. By calculating how far apart the ripples were, and how fast sound might travel there, the team of researchers determined the musical note of the sound. Fabian said the notion of singing black holes might well be extrapolated to other galaxies, but not necessarily to the Milky Way. Chandra has looked at X-ray emissions from the Milky Way's center, and astronomers believe there is a black hole there, but because it is a young, rambunctious galaxy with lots of activity at its heart, this may interfere with any note our black hole might sing, Fabian said.
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:05:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She settled for 2000 bucks: how much do you think it cost them to litigate? Dunno, whaddya think? -- -DJ Entropy (bhpc, elemental compounds, planet muzik, ingrooves, boston) *supporting Pure Hardcore since 1987* *being a RavePainTM since 1995* *Save electronic Music - buy a guitar* http://www.djentropy.com http://www.elementalcompounds.com http://www.planetmuzik.net http://www.ingrooves.com http://www.ishkur.com/features/suckysites/index.htm http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/hot/entropy-sitting.jpg
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
well, they have the best lawyers money can buy, so that's at least $2-3000 an hour... - Original Message - From: DJ Entropy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:05:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She settled for 2000 bucks: how much do you think it cost them to litigate? Dunno, whaddya think? -- -DJ Entropy (bhpc, elemental compounds, planet muzik, ingrooves, boston) *supporting Pure Hardcore since 1987* *being a RavePainTM since 1995* *Save electronic Music - buy a guitar* http://www.djentropy.com http://www.elementalcompounds.com http://www.planetmuzik.net http://www.ingrooves.com http://www.ishkur.com/features/suckysites/index.htm http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/hot/entropy-sitting.jpg
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
a high-profile laywer would have taken her case pro bono for the publicity, good point... I was kind of disappointed to see them settle. probably didn't know any better, to make up for it though...i just bought an 80 gig drive and i'm going to fill it up with nothing but pop songs... sue me! sue me! b - Original Message - From: DJ Entropy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:09:11 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, they have the best lawyers money can buy, so that's at least $2- 3000 an hour... As much as making a martyr out af a 12 yr old grrl kinda sucks; I'm SURE a high-profile laywer would have taken her case pro bono for the publicity, and the PR of the RIAA would have gone down the toilet, as it was doing. I was kind of disappointed to see them settle. -- -DJ Entropy (bhpc, elemental compounds, planet muzik, ingrooves, boston) *supporting Pure Hardcore since 1987* *being a RavePainTM since 1995* *Save electronic Music - buy a guitar* http://www.djentropy.com http://www.elementalcompounds.com http://www.planetmuzik.net http://www.ingrooves.com http://www.ishkur.com/features/suckysites/index.htm http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/hot/entropy-sitting.jpg
RE: (313) O-T: sample search
Well with a little collaboration we found it out to be Bustin' Loose by Chuck Brown. With the additional info that the neptunes don't sample. I looked up the credits of the song Hot in Herre and it list Chuck Brown as one of the writers. This is usually done when an original song is sampled and cleared by the new artist. What a minute now that I think of it. That (don't sample) can't be true. The neptunes sample like a Mofo. For Bustah's Gimmie some mo they sampled The movie Pyscho's Theme Song. (Not the shower scene song, but the main movie theme). And if you give me awhile I can think of other samples they used on other productions in addition to these two songs. Just for info. I'm not blastin the Neptunes. I actually love their work. But they do sample. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:44 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) O-T: sample search Well they claim not to use samples. Both play multiple instruments. The closest they get is to listen to a record and recreate the vibe. -- From: Stephen Burd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) O-T: sample search Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 2:19 AM from what old song was the instrumental part of nelly's hot in here sampled? thanks :) -stephen
RE: (313) Black Holes Love Bass
sorry for the bad title - sort of makes it sound like a porn spam ;) MEK Michael Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 09/10/03 01:47 PMSubject: RE: (313) Black Holes Love Bass B-B-B-BASS HOW LOW CAN YOU GO? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:39 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Black Holes Love Bass http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/09/10/blackhole.music.reut/index.html Black hole hums deepest note ever detected Wednesday, September 10, 2003 Posted: 1:51 PM EDT (1751 GMT) WASHINGTON, Sept 9 (Reuters) -- Big black holes sing bass. One particularly monstrous black hole has probably been humming B flat for billions of years, but at a pitch no human could hear, let alone sing, astronomers said this week. The intensity of the sound is comparable to human speech, said Andrew Fabian of the Institute of Astronomy at Cambridge, England. But the pitch of the sound is about 57 octaves below middle C, roughly the middle of a standard piano keyboard. This is far, far deeper than humans can hear, the researchers said, and they believe it is the deepest note ever detected in the universe. The sound waves are emanating from the Perseus Cluster, a giant clump of galaxies some 250 million light-years from Earth. A light-year is about 6 trillion miles (10 trillion km), the distance light travels in a year. Fabian and his colleagues used NASA's orbiting Chandra X-Ray Observatory to investigate X-rays coming from the cluster's heart. Researchers presumed that a supermassive black hole, with perhaps 2.5 billion times the mass of our sun, lay there, and the activity around the center bolstered this assumption. Black holes are powerful matter-sucking drains in space, and astronomers believe most galaxies, including our own Milky Way, may contain black holes at their centers. Black holes have not been directly observed, because their gravitational pull is so strong that nothing, not even light, can escape it. Making waves So researchers have concentrated on what happens around the edges of black holes, just before matter is pulled in. When scientists trained the Chandra observatory on the center of Perseus last year, they saw concentric ripples in the cosmic gas that fills the space between the galaxies in the cluster. We're dealing with enormous scales here, Fabian said in a telephone interview. The size of these ripples is 30,000 light-years. Fabian said the ripples were caused by the rhythmic squeezing and heating of the cosmic gas by the intense gravitational pressure of the jumble of galaxies packed together in the cluster. As the black hole pulls material in, he said, it also creates jets of material shooting out above and below it, and it is these powerful jets that create the pressure that creates the sound waves. To scientists, he said, pressure ripples equate to sound waves. By calculating how far apart the ripples were, and how fast sound might travel there, the team of researchers determined the musical note of the sound. Fabian said the notion of singing black holes might well be extrapolated to other galaxies, but not necessarily to the Milky Way. Chandra has looked at X-ray emissions from the Milky Way's center, and astronomers believe there is a black hole there, but because it is a young, rambunctious galaxy with lots of activity at its heart, this may interfere with any note our black hole might sing, Fabian said.
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
so what was that message posted just yesterday about the riaa vs individuals? i forget, and i lost the message. someone just forwarded me this - I don't know where it's from: A shy Manhattan schoolgirl who gets a kick out of nursery songs and TV themes was among 261 people sued yesterday for downloading music from the Internet. Brianna LaHara, a curly-haired 12-year-old honor student who started seventh grade yesterday at St. Gregory the Great Catholic school on W. 90th St., couldn't believe she's one of the major offenders the music moguls are after. Oh, my God, what's going to happen now? she asked after hearing of the suit. My stomach is all in knots. Told she may have to go to court, Brianna's eyes widened behind wire-rimmed glasses and she said, I'm just shocked that of all the people that do this, I'm on the list. The Recording Industry Association of America said the suits filed yesterday included about 60 that targeted suspects in New York who downloaded more than 1,000 songs. The group blames computer users such as Brianna, who use software programs to trade music with others on the Internet, for a 30% drop in music sales. Each person sued yesterday could be liable for fines up to $150,000 for each poached track. 'Appropriate action' Experts had predicted a large number of the suits likely would name youngsters. Nobody likes playing the heavy and having to resort to litigation, but when your product is being regularly stolen, there comes a time when you have to take appropriate action, said Carey Sherman, president of the recording association. _ Express yourself with MSN Messenger 6.0 -- download now! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_general
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
I posted it and it was from DJ magazine online - but I can't find anything that backs up that article. Even Norm Coleman (the Rep. Senator from my state of Minnesota) doesn't mention it on him home page so I'm beginning to wonder where DJ mag got their info from. this is the link to the DJ mag article http://www.djmag.com/news_5.asp MEK J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], l.com313@hyperreal.org cc: 09/10/03 02:48 PMSubject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA so what was that message posted just yesterday about the riaa vs individuals? i forget, and i lost the message. someone just forwarded me this - I don't know where it's from: A shy Manhattan schoolgirl who gets a kick out of nursery songs and TV themes was among 261 people sued yesterday for downloading music from the Internet. Brianna LaHara, a curly-haired 12-year-old honor student who started seventh grade yesterday at St. Gregory the Great Catholic school on W. 90th St., couldn't believe she's one of the major offenders the music moguls are after. Oh, my God, what's going to happen now? she asked after hearing of the suit. My stomach is all in knots. Told she may have to go to court, Brianna's eyes widened behind wire-rimmed glasses and she said, I'm just shocked that of all the people that do this, I'm on the list. The Recording Industry Association of America said the suits filed yesterday included about 60 that targeted suspects in New York who downloaded more than 1,000 songs. The group blames computer users such as Brianna, who use software programs to trade music with others on the Internet, for a 30% drop in music sales. Each person sued yesterday could be liable for fines up to $150,000 for each poached track. 'Appropriate action' Experts had predicted a large number of the suits likely would name youngsters. Nobody likes playing the heavy and having to resort to litigation, but when your product is being regularly stolen, there comes a time when you have to take appropriate action, said Carey Sherman, president of the recording association. _ Express yourself with MSN Messenger 6.0 -- download now! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_general
RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
It's also on CNN.com http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/09/09/music.swap.settlement/index.html It was up on that site last night... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 10, 2003 4:51 PM To: J. T. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA I posted it and it was from DJ magazine online - but I can't find anything that backs up that article. Even Norm Coleman (the Rep. Senator from my state of Minnesota) doesn't mention it on him home page so I'm beginning to wonder where DJ mag got their info from. this is the link to the DJ mag article http://www.djmag.com/news_5.asp MEK J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], l.com313@hyperreal.org cc: 09/10/03 02:48 PMSubject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA so what was that message posted just yesterday about the riaa vs individuals? i forget, and i lost the message. someone just forwarded me this - I don't know where it's from: A shy Manhattan schoolgirl who gets a kick out of nursery songs and TV themes was among 261 people sued yesterday for downloading music from the Internet. Brianna LaHara, a curly-haired 12-year-old honor student who started seventh grade yesterday at St. Gregory the Great Catholic school on W. 90th St., couldn't believe she's one of the major offenders the music moguls are after. Oh, my God, what's going to happen now? she asked after hearing of the suit. My stomach is all in knots. Told she may have to go to court, Brianna's eyes widened behind wire-rimmed glasses and she said, I'm just shocked that of all the people that do this, I'm on the list. The Recording Industry Association of America said the suits filed yesterday included about 60 that targeted suspects in New York who downloaded more than 1,000 songs. The group blames computer users such as Brianna, who use software programs to trade music with others on the Internet, for a 30% drop in music sales. Each person sued yesterday could be liable for fines up to $150,000 for each poached track. 'Appropriate action' Experts had predicted a large number of the suits likely would name youngsters. Nobody likes playing the heavy and having to resort to litigation, but when your product is being regularly stolen, there comes a time when you have to take appropriate action, said Carey Sherman, president of the recording association. _ Express yourself with MSN Messenger 6.0 -- download now! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_general
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
At 22:51 10-9-2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted it and it was from DJ magazine online - but I can't find anything that backs up that article. Even Norm Coleman (the Rep. Senator from my state of Minnesota) doesn't mention it on him home page so I'm beginning to wonder where DJ mag got their info from. http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/nation/6725042.htm R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
thanks for all the infos guys. it's interesting to note that some articles dont seem to distinguish between filesharing and downloading (the local paper here didnt), which is a significant difference pretty analogous to uploading vs downloading...of course one relates to the other, but a lot of people who aren't even setup to share (upload) their files are now worried about what they download. helpful paranoia for the riaa http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/nation/6725042.htm R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix. _ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
the RIAA is now offering an amnesty program to filesharers, read here: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNewsstoryID=3399602 some people are fighting back: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18658afl=frnd the same thing is happening here in the netherlands; 'stichting brein' an organisation that could be compared to the RIAA, has been demanding the names of people who's IP adresses they've got. But the internetproviders refuse to give those names, referring to those persons privacy rights. christiaan alberdingk thijm [kazaa's lawyer] points out on the website of his lawfirm why 'stichting brein' has not much chance of winning their fight for those names. i'm not sure what to think of all this. first of all, the extreme long time it took the recording industry to do something it could have done long ago, thereby only making things worse. and secondly giving the public the wrong impression; the impression that eventhough filesharing is not ok, it will have no consequence on you. the way they sue 12 year olds doesn't really help them either, it's like a shopkeeper who sees hundreds of people stealing from his shop day in day out, and finally does something about it, by picking out the weekest person that has ever done so, in the case a 12 year old. third, i'm really puzzled by all these settlements. $2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 per song!!! in court the RIAA would have to convince the judge and the jury that this girls filesharing has caused the recording industry $2000 damage. they could NEVER pull that off! they would even face a hard time trying to prove that there is a direct link beteen the decrease in sales in the music industry, and filesharing. just look at the shift in sales towards dvd's or even ringtones, and combine that with the bad economy. jurren _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
(313) viva italo
what are the chances of a track ID from this TV ad?:) http://www.adformatie.nl/images/9621.mpg peace, Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
i'm not sure what to think of all this. well, let's see...the recording industry has flooded the maketplace with sh!t which, in reality has no value, overcharged people for it, switched to a digital format so that they could screw the craftspeople (not artists) who make this stuff...so people decided not to pay for it and are now they are drowning in it and want to extort a life-jacket from you (the consumer)... i think it's great! b
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
$2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 per song!!! Do you suppose that the RIAA is looking at each song and each artist that she downloaded and giving them their fair amount? As if she had bought a CD from each of them - and then does that affect their chart position? I really doubt they are distributing the money to the artists - many of whom seem to be rather silent on the issue lately (that I've noticed). Anyone see/hear/read artists speaking out against what the RIAA is doing? I think their lawyers could drop $2000 at dinner after the pre-trial hearing (business expense - it's a meeting to figure out the game plan, honest!). MEK jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org mail.comcc: Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA 09/10/03 04:31 PM the RIAA is now offering an amnesty program to filesharers, read here: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNewsstoryID=3399602 some people are fighting back: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18658afl=frnd the same thing is happening here in the netherlands; 'stichting brein' an organisation that could be compared to the RIAA, has been demanding the names of people who's IP adresses they've got. But the internetproviders refuse to give those names, referring to those persons privacy rights. christiaan alberdingk thijm [kazaa's lawyer] points out on the website of his lawfirm why 'stichting brein' has not much chance of winning their fight for those names. i'm not sure what to think of all this. first of all, the extreme long time it took the recording industry to do something it could have done long ago, thereby only making things worse. and secondly giving the public the wrong impression; the impression that eventhough filesharing is not ok, it will have no consequence on you. the way they sue 12 year olds doesn't really help them either, it's like a shopkeeper who sees hundreds of people stealing from his shop day in day out, and finally does something about it, by picking out the weekest person that has ever done so, in the case a 12 year old. third, i'm really puzzled by all these settlements. $2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 per song!!! in court the RIAA would have to convince the judge and the jury that this girls filesharing has caused the recording industry $2000 damage. they could NEVER pull that off! they would even face a hard time trying to prove that there is a direct link beteen the decrease in sales in the music industry, and filesharing. just look at the shift in sales towards dvd's or even ringtones, and combine that with the bad economy. jurren _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: (313) viva italo
check the globaldarkness.com forums - it's discusseed there rc on 11/9/03 8:11 AM, Matt MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what are the chances of a track ID from this TV ad?:) http://www.adformatie.nl/images/9621.mpg peace, Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
that may be true - but this doesn't really effect you does it? what proportion of the music you buy is aligned with major record labels? it worries me when people use the rationalisation that it's only hurting snr. executives from major record labels when they download music off p2p programs and then they go and download detroit stuff or other stuff which major record labels have no rights vested within. Music from composers they claim to support but then go and download free of charge? one thing that's strikingly clear - no matter where the music is from, and no matter how much it would normally cost - you can't compete with free. on 11/9/03 8:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not sure what to think of all this. well, let's see...the recording industry has flooded the maketplace with sh!t which, in reality has no value, overcharged people for it, switched to a digital format so that they could screw the craftspeople (not artists) who make this stuff...so people decided not to pay for it and are now they are drowning in it and want to extort a life-jacket from you (the consumer)... i think it's great! b
RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
please tell this committee. are you now, or have you ever been... a file-sharer? ;-P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:30 PM To: jurren baars Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA $2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 per song!!! Do you suppose that the RIAA is looking at each song and each artist that she downloaded and giving them their fair amount? As if she had bought a CD from each of them - and then does that affect their chart position? I really doubt they are distributing the money to the artists - many of whom seem to be rather silent on the issue lately (that I've noticed). Anyone see/hear/read artists speaking out against what the RIAA is doing? I think their lawyers could drop $2000 at dinner after the pre-trial hearing (business expense - it's a meeting to figure out the game plan, honest!). MEK jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org mail.comcc: Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA 09/10/03 04:31 PM the RIAA is now offering an amnesty program to filesharers, read here: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNewsstoryID=3399602 some people are fighting back: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18658afl=frnd the same thing is happening here in the netherlands; 'stichting brein' an organisation that could be compared to the RIAA, has been demanding the names of people who's IP adresses they've got. But the internetproviders refuse to give those names, referring to those persons privacy rights. christiaan alberdingk thijm [kazaa's lawyer] points out on the website of his lawfirm why 'stichting brein' has not much chance of winning their fight for those names. i'm not sure what to think of all this. first of all, the extreme long time it took the recording industry to do something it could have done long ago, thereby only making things worse. and secondly giving the public the wrong impression; the impression that eventhough filesharing is not ok, it will have no consequence on you. the way they sue 12 year olds doesn't really help them either, it's like a shopkeeper who sees hundreds of people stealing from his shop day in day out, and finally does something about it, by picking out the weekest person that has ever done so, in the case a 12 year old. third, i'm really puzzled by all these settlements. $2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 per song!!! in court the RIAA would have to convince the judge and the jury that this girls filesharing has caused the recording industry $2000 damage. they could NEVER pull that off! they would even face a hard time trying to prove that there is a direct link beteen the decrease in sales in the music industry, and filesharing. just look at the shift in sales towards dvd's or even ringtones, and combine that with the bad economy. jurren _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: (313) Is this not the coolest mix?
The Ronny Pries Back In the Days Mix -- finally there's something I can play for people and say 'this is why I like techno.' http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days.mp3 http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days_playlist.txt thanks for posting this Kent, it's amazing... finally had some time to let it play all the way through. Woo! I was sweating just listening to it, imagine hearing that on a giant system in a blacked-out warehouse... wow peace Matt MacQueen
