Re: (313) movement track i.d.
It was 'Walking On Sunshine' - Central Line. Classic Larry Levan mix from the 80s. Loving the bright stabby echoed synths with that crunchy groove. I was the dancing fool singing along at the back behind the tent. Getting goose bumps just thinking about it. My full Movement lowdown is coming soon if anyone cares, I just have to refresh my memory banks by checking out the lineup again. At 01:26 PM 6/3/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know the track ron trent played towards the end of his set with the words sunshine in it, a real chorus track.
Re: (313) my personal experience at movement
I think it's not just about ego, money or any one thing. surely it's complex to put on events like this, make everyone pleased and break even or make a modest amount of cash. Of great importance is the message delivered if/when choosing to bring in a corporate or money-packing sponsor who insists on taking creative control. I suppose a favourable situation would exist when your message and that of a potential sponsor are close enough that you don't ruffle feathers - but otherwise it likely wouldn't work. if you give up control of what it is that you're trying to do, what you love or the point of the whole thing ... then what does it become? Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are other's (won't mention names) who have offered in good faith to take control of a stage for at least a day of the festival and incure all cost for the promotional value in return (and perhaps that chance to sell their own money sponsor to offset cost). This is actually how it was occasioanlly done under Carlo Marvin, where Real Detroit would sponsor a stage and then bring in Bacardi to pay for it. However, because the interested promotional group insist on creative control of the stage (as opposed to just throwing their name on whoever derrick and co. pick) movement has declined their offers. unfortunate, since these group have extensive experience and would certainly upgrade the flavor of movement. maybe next year artistic control (ego) won't get in the way of more coroperation. On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, quest pond wrote: upwards of 500 euros for plane tix. LOL if only it were that cheap from here! with costs well over 1k euros from australia. First i want to know i'm going to get into the country and then secondly that a party is actually going be happening. A line up is important well well in advance. I'm not bagging the Movement, good on mr May and Co for such an excellent effort and im sorry i couldnt go. I'm just adding to others comments. Could there be a possibility of artists paying for stages if they don't already or charging for entry? I mean if i'm paying all that money of a stupid air-fare what is a bit extra to guarantee and event happens? It also keep out people who don't really give a damn, and would put rubish in money collection bins. Quest Pond -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2004 19:08 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement TO start, , the festival planning should start in july, not in January. The timing issue is so important when you have a scaled festival like this, with such large out of town support. People in europe want to know they aren't throwing away their money before they spend upwards of 500 euros for plane tix. Even on top of that, the line-up wasn't even anounced until the week before the festival, which kept alot of the parties /people from being able to plan around it. I was talking to Mike from Threads, and he said that usually he gets a stream of customers during DEMF weekend, that is larger than his xmas crowd, but this year was just like a normal week for him. I'm not sure all of the implications of that statement, but I'm willing to bet that the lack of planning on the part of the festival played a major part. dense. On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well. So what part of the business do they need to run better? Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy part? Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash part? Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt? I'd like to know... Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to happen again. How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival? MEK Erin Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] thms.comcc: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement 06/01/04 02:51 PM I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some business classes. ~E From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success. But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot. Detroit can't let this slip away. this is an excellent article - really says it like it is. I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF should read this I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so I can go again next year where do I send my
Re: (313) Free Movement Gear
I wish this survey allowed those of us who couldn't go to be able to voice our support or input. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The survey is solely for the benefit of Movement and Michigan. There is no commercial, corporate agenda. The survey will help folks put on a better event next year. Thanks to everyone for helping. It'll help Movement keep going for years to come. The last page states this: We have received your completed questionnaire. Thank you for taking the time to complete this survey conducted by Davidson-Peterson Associates on behalf of the Movement Festival and the Michigan Office of Tourism. -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear I took the survey - the original link didn't work (it needed a .com after the digitalresearch part) - http://www.digitalresearch.com/movementmusic I am curious, who commissioned this survey? Was it Derrick company? The survey results could be very useful to build a case for keeping this thing alive. Hopefully the data collected will be used for purposes of good and not evil ;) Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that attended Movement, here's your chance to win free Movement shirts, CDs, etc. and help the festival and the birthplace of techno, Detroit. Fill out the survey and let Movement organizers know about your visit to tha big D! Help them organize a better festival for next year by telling them about you. Go to: www.digitalresearch/movementmusic
(313) Re: the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement
Just wanted to add one: Tim Wright - Thirst (Luciano´s dancehall remix) heard this twice at Green Light Go! (Once at Agave and once at Push) and the next night as soon as I walked into Oslo. -d
RE: (313) Free Movement Gear
you could always lie...and hope Karma doesn't bite you in the @$$ Jeff -Original Message- From: David Gillies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 2:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear I wish this survey allowed those of us who couldn't go to be able to voice our support or input. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The survey is solely for the benefit of Movement and Michigan. There is no commercial, corporate agenda. The survey will help folks put on a better event next year. Thanks to everyone for helping. It'll help Movement keep going for years to come. The last page states this: We have received your completed questionnaire. Thank you for taking the time to complete this survey conducted by Davidson-Peterson Associates on behalf of the Movement Festival and the Michigan Office of Tourism. -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear I took the survey - the original link didn't work (it needed a .com after the digitalresearch part) - http://www.digitalresearch.com/movementmusic I am curious, who commissioned this survey? Was it Derrick company? The survey results could be very useful to build a case for keeping this thing alive. Hopefully the data collected will be used for purposes of good and not evil ;) Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that attended Movement, here's your chance to win free Movement shirts, CDs, etc. and help the festival and the birthplace of techno, Detroit. Fill out the survey and let Movement organizers know about your visit to tha big D! Help them organize a better festival for next year by telling them about you. Go to: www.digitalresearch/movementmusic
Re: (313) my personal experience at movement
I think it's not just about ego, money or any one thing. surely it's complex to put on events like this, make everyone pleased and break even or make a modest amount of cash. Of great importance is the message delivered if/when choosing to bring in a corporate or money-packing sponsor who insists on taking creative control. I suppose a favourable situation would exist when your message and that of a potential sponsor are close enough that you don't ruffle feathers - but otherwise it likely wouldn't work. if you give up control of what it is that you're trying to do, what you love or the point of the whole thing ... then what does it become? Creative control is essential to maintaining the integrity of an event . . it is amazing how fast an event can loose its core values and identity when you start to give away control to gain a few extra sponsor dollars.. It is a fine line .. but in my experience .. if the core organizers have a vision .. and that vision is the reason the event is happening in the first place .. you cannot barter that vision for cash without diluting the essence of the vision .. and subsequently the purpose of the event .. Its a hard task .. and I've never seen a lot of $$ made from festivals that choose to take an artistic path as opposed to a financial path .. By the sounds of it Movement may have to become a more commercial event .. and hand away some of their artistic control to other parties .. but this will create a very different event to the one people have just experienced .. Movement .. as I understand is about Techno / Detroit .. the music .. and over the years it has strived extensively to remain true in the self belief the music .. in the culture .. Isn't it about the believing in the truth of the music .. that it truly does create movement in your soul .. that the music is its own energy and force .. I have been there and lost a load of money plenty of times .. 'in this belief' .. but to give up this hope and rely in industry to support our identity is to give away everything that the music has liberated with in us .. // is Movement really prepared to give its creditability to a corporate entity for cash ! .simon -- . . . . . . ... .. .. sure ' we can do that ... http://www.obscure.co.nz // \\ . . . . ... . . . .
RE: (313) Re: the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement
havent been following the thread so sorry if is a repeat but heard the carl craig remix of la funk mob twice on the same stage on the same day, 1st from aardvarck later from recloose..i was happy Just wanted to add one: Tim Wright - Thirst (Luciano´s dancehall remix) heard this twice at Green Light Go! (Once at Agave and once at Push) and the next night as soon as I walked into Oslo. -d _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
(313) Movement 04 / Dimitri from Amsterdam ..
Did anybody heard him ?? Heard he played a wicked set dating back to the time Roxy/High Tech Soul was in full swing .. Any comment would be nice ! Thanks RAW2019
RE: (313) movement track i.d.
It was 'Walking On Sunshine' - Central Line. Classic Larry Levan mix from the 80s. Loving the bright stabby echoed synths with that crunchy groove. I 'You're mine, your're mine you're - walking on sunshine' (synth phrase) 'I've got to tell you that you're doing fine - walking on sunshine' (synth) This was not Central Line I believe, but Rockers Revenge. k
RE: (313) movement track i.d.
The Central Line track is called Walking Into Sunshine lovely when the bass line comes in! At 8:25 am +0100 4/6/04, Ken Odeluga wrote: It was 'Walking On Sunshine' - Central Line. Classic Larry Levan mix from the 80s. Loving the bright stabby echoed synths with that crunchy groove. I 'You're mine, your're mine you're - walking on sunshine' (synth phrase) 'I've got to tell you that you're doing fine - walking on sunshine' (synth) This was not Central Line I believe, but Rockers Revenge. k
Re: (313) Re: the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement
Dan Sicko wrote: Just wanted to add one: Tim Wright - Thirst (Luciano´s dancehall remix) heard this twice at Green Light Go! (Once at Agave and once at Push) and the next night as soon as I walked into Oslo. -d great great record .. out now on Novamute!
(313) OT ATT stockhom people
Sorry for the offtopic. My wife and I are planning ot visit stockholm in the coming months, but we are hoping that someone from the area could at the least show us around, or give us a good weekend to come. We're very much into the techno from that area. We'd need either a very inexpensive place to stay, or someone that wouldn't mind putting up with us for 2 days. please respond privately. dennis donohue
(313) Copenhagen
Hello List. My mate is flying out to Copenhagen this afternoon and he just asked me if I knew any good record shops Guess he'd be looking for 2nd hand places to have a good dig (as opposed to new stuff) Anyone here from Copenhagen? Any ideas? Many Thanks Alex p.s. I'm going to Berlin tomorrow! woohoo! lock up your 1 euro record bins (and your daughters) cos I wanna get dusty fingers... _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Dan Curtin djing in London
Sorry for the spam- The Outlet Collective in conjunction with Digital Soul Records present the first of 2 nights of... DIGITAL SOUL REBELS @ S.E.N.D. Featuring... Dan Curtin (Metamorphic, Peacefrog - Cleveland, USA) Peel Seamus (Delsin - Amsterdam, NL) Splinterfaction (Digital Soul - UK) ...alongside Digital Soul residents The Outlet DJ crew. Saturday 10th July 2004 - 8pm 'til late - At an intimate, un-announced East London location. Entrance: £5 IN ADVANCE - Available directly from [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.outletcollective.com or by phoning 07967 332 964.
RE: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London
Looking forward to this one very much - there was Peal Seamus mix posted on here last year that is very tasty and Dan Curtin's 11th Hour mixes are sorted too - only a fiver too! -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London Sorry for the spam- The Outlet Collective in conjunction with Digital Soul Records present the first of 2 nights of... DIGITAL SOUL REBELS @ S.E.N.D. Featuring... Dan Curtin (Metamorphic, Peacefrog - Cleveland, USA) Peel Seamus (Delsin - Amsterdam, NL) Splinterfaction (Digital Soul - UK) ...alongside Digital Soul residents The Outlet DJ crew. Saturday 10th July 2004 - 8pm 'til late - At an intimate, un-announced East London location. Entrance: £5 IN ADVANCE - Available directly from [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.outletcollective.com or by phoning 07967 332 964. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London
I don't think Dan Curtin has played in London for a good 6 yearsso we're very please that he is playing for us.. And the door charge is only a fiver, can't be bad!!! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2004 15:52 To: Paul Kendrick; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London Looking forward to this one very much - there was Peal Seamus mix posted on here last year that is very tasty and Dan Curtin's 11th Hour mixes are sorted too - only a fiver too! -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London Sorry for the spam- The Outlet Collective in conjunction with Digital Soul Records present the first of 2 nights of... DIGITAL SOUL REBELS @ S.E.N.D. Featuring... Dan Curtin (Metamorphic, Peacefrog - Cleveland, USA) Peel Seamus (Delsin - Amsterdam, NL) Splinterfaction (Digital Soul - UK) ...alongside Digital Soul residents The Outlet DJ crew. Saturday 10th July 2004 - 8pm 'til late - At an intimate, un-announced East London location. Entrance: £5 IN ADVANCE - Available directly from [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.outletcollective.com or by phoning 07967 332 964. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Future of Movement
We can go on and on about Movement, and I don't intend to do that here, but I have a few things to say on the subject: 1. There has been much criticism of Movement '04, some of it valid and constructive, but every picture I took at the Festival had people smiling in it. There was a vibe there that is rare. That, to me, is the most precious thing about the Festival. 2. Without discounting in any way the time, money, and heart Derrick May put into the festival, the disorganization and last-minute drama didn't help. There needs to be someone involved with the festival who can sell it to large-dollar sponsors, manage logistics, and get ahead of the curve. Booking the lineup is the fun part, and only about 1% of the job. Kevin Saunderson seems to be poised to take on this role. I don't know Kevin personally, but in the press conference he seemed calm, articulate, and tactful. The fact remains that these guys are at the top of their game in the studio or in the DJ booth, but the skills required to put on a 3 day festival are completely different. Beyond that, everything I have to say about the festival has already been said by Brian Mccollum in the Free Press. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move1_20040601.htm
(313) Friday Treat
lil friday treat for the leftfield heads out there.. (courtesy of the dj history page) it's a 'mystery mix' (i.e. no tracklist) by Gerry Rooney. http://www.djhistory.com/mixes/ Gerry is a record dealer of considerable reputation, he's also the guy who did the Black Cock edits with Harvey. He's always got some weird 'under the counter' bits under his stall ; ) It ain't going to be everyone's bag, but I know there's a few heads on this list who are going to appreciate it! do I hear the words Rare Piece? : ) also, check the other mixes out, Sean P (Disco Not Disco Compiler amongst may other things) Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London
WOW this is so exciting, my absolute favourite recording artist ever and i'm going to be in London then! Nice choice outlet. Quest -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 June 2004 00:52 To: Paul Kendrick; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London Looking forward to this one very much - there was Peal Seamus mix posted on here last year that is very tasty and Dan Curtin's 11th Hour mixes are sorted too - only a fiver too! -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London Sorry for the spam- The Outlet Collective in conjunction with Digital Soul Records present the first of 2 nights of... DIGITAL SOUL REBELS @ S.E.N.D. Featuring... Dan Curtin (Metamorphic, Peacefrog - Cleveland, USA) Peel Seamus (Delsin - Amsterdam, NL) Splinterfaction (Digital Soul - UK) ...alongside Digital Soul residents The Outlet DJ crew. Saturday 10th July 2004 - 8pm 'til late - At an intimate, un-announced East London location. Entrance: £5 IN ADVANCE - Available directly from [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.outletcollective.com or by phoning 07967 332 964. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London
Can't resist chipping in! (I did try :-). Another seminal London event from the Outlet collective. Last summer was Dan Bell, so far this year we've already had Scion. DC's also amongst the techno producers whom I admire the most and yet have never seen in performance. Once again, I can barely wait! k -Original Message- From: quest pond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 3:04 PM To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London WOW this is so exciting, my absolute favourite recording artist ever and i'm going to be in London then! Nice choice outlet. Quest -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 June 2004 00:52 To: Paul Kendrick; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London Looking forward to this one very much - there was Peal Seamus mix posted on here last year that is very tasty and Dan Curtin's 11th Hour mixes are sorted too - only a fiver too! -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London Sorry for the spam- The Outlet Collective in conjunction with Digital Soul Records present the first of 2 nights of... DIGITAL SOUL REBELS @ S.E.N.D. Featuring... Dan Curtin (Metamorphic, Peacefrog - Cleveland, USA) Peel Seamus (Delsin - Amsterdam, NL) Splinterfaction (Digital Soul - UK) ...alongside Digital Soul residents The Outlet DJ crew. Saturday 10th July 2004 - 8pm 'til late - At an intimate, un-announced East London location. Entrance: £5 IN ADVANCE - Available directly from [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.outletcollective.com or by phoning 07967 332 964. ### # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### # #
RE: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London
Thanks for your kind words... we do try and put people on that we want to see as much as the people who we feel are not being booked.. -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2004 15:12 To: quest pond; Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London Can't resist chipping in! (I did try :-). Another seminal London event from the Outlet collective. Last summer was Dan Bell, so far this year we've already had Scion. DC's also amongst the techno producers whom I admire the most and yet have never seen in performance. Once again, I can barely wait! k -Original Message- From: quest pond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 3:04 PM To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London WOW this is so exciting, my absolute favourite recording artist ever and i'm going to be in London then! Nice choice outlet. Quest -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 June 2004 00:52 To: Paul Kendrick; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London Looking forward to this one very much - there was Peal Seamus mix posted on here last year that is very tasty and Dan Curtin's 11th Hour mixes are sorted too - only a fiver too! -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London Sorry for the spam- The Outlet Collective in conjunction with Digital Soul Records present the first of 2 nights of... DIGITAL SOUL REBELS @ S.E.N.D. Featuring... Dan Curtin (Metamorphic, Peacefrog - Cleveland, USA) Peel Seamus (Delsin - Amsterdam, NL) Splinterfaction (Digital Soul - UK) ...alongside Digital Soul residents The Outlet DJ crew. Saturday 10th July 2004 - 8pm 'til late - At an intimate, un-announced East London location. Entrance: £5 IN ADVANCE - Available directly from [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.outletcollective.com or by phoning 07967 332 964. ### # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### # #
(313) some things what escaped from my lab
I haven't posted much here lately. Rectifying. http://www.bprince.com/BrianPrince-Raintower.mp3 (3mb, rough) upwardly-rushing technosoul http://www.bprince.com/balistic-jackass(rough).mp3 (3mb) stuttery electrofunk co-produced by my pelvis Offers of sex/money appreciated. - Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno
Re: (313) Free Movement Gear
yep - I agree. Just because I couldn't go this year doesn't mean I don't support the event or haven't gone at all. MEK David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 06/03/04 09:48 PMSubject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear I wish this survey allowed those of us who couldn't go to be able to voice our support or input. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The survey is solely for the benefit of Movement and Michigan. There is no commercial, corporate agenda. The survey will help folks put on a better event next year. Thanks to everyone for helping. It'll help Movement keep going for years to come. The last page states this: We have received your completed questionnaire. Thank you for taking the time to complete this survey conducted by Davidson-Peterson Associates on behalf of the Movement Festival and the Michigan Office of Tourism. -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear I took the survey - the original link didn't work (it needed a .com after the digitalresearch part) - http://www.digitalresearch.com/movementmusic I am curious, who commissioned this survey? Was it Derrick company? The survey results could be very useful to build a case for keeping this thing alive. Hopefully the data collected will be used for purposes of good and not evil ;) Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that attended Movement, here's your chance to win free Movement shirts, CDs, etc. and help the festival and the birthplace of techno, Detroit. Fill out the survey and let Movement organizers know about your visit to tha big D! Help them organize a better festival for next year by telling them about you. Go to: www.digitalresearch/movementmusic
Re: (313) my personal experience at movement
On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 10:10:52PM -0400, lisa wrote: Of great importance is the message delivered if/when choosing to bring in a corporate or money-packing sponsor who insists on taking creative control. I suppose a favourable situation would exist when your message and that of a potential sponsor are close enough that you don't ruffle feathers - but otherwise it likely wouldn't work. if you give up control of what it is that you're trying to do, what you love or the point of the whole thing ... then what does it become? Also, on this note does anyone besides me think it odd and/or suprising that several members of UR headlined a festival sponsored primarily by Sony? -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
RE: (313) Free Movement Gear
well to be honest, It wouldn't hurt would it...I mean you could base it on past experiences as I am sure it all helps for the future.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 04/06/2004 16:06 To: David Gillies Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear yep - I agree. Just because I couldn't go this year doesn't mean I don't support the event or haven't gone at all. MEK David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 06/03/04 09:48 PMSubject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear I wish this survey allowed those of us who couldn't go to be able to voice our support or input. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The survey is solely for the benefit of Movement and Michigan. There is no commercial, corporate agenda. The survey will help folks put on a better event next year. Thanks to everyone for helping. It'll help Movement keep going for years to come. The last page states this: We have received your completed questionnaire. Thank you for taking the time to complete this survey conducted by Davidson-Peterson Associates on behalf of the Movement Festival and the Michigan Office of Tourism. -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear I took the survey - the original link didn't work (it needed a .com after the digitalresearch part) - http://www.digitalresearch.com/movementmusic I am curious, who commissioned this survey? Was it Derrick company? The survey results could be very useful to build a case for keeping this thing alive. Hopefully the data collected will be used for purposes of good and not evil ;) Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that attended Movement, here's your chance to win free Movement shirts, CDs, etc. and help the festival and the birthplace of techno, Detroit. Fill out the survey and let Movement organizers know about your visit to tha big D! Help them organize a better festival for next year by telling them about you. Go to: www.digitalresearch/movementmusic
RE: (313) Re: the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement
Agreed, Carl's remix of Ravers Suck our Sound is an essential tune. I'm glad to finally have it on 12 after just about wearing out my version off a Colin Dale's Outer Limit's vol 2. The track I heard the most over the weekend was G-man Quo Vadis. No complaints on my end since this record NEVER leaves my bag. During a late-night rip session, fellow members of crew pointed out to me (while I was passed out) that this record is fairly indiciative of the Jwan Allen Sound. So when we heard Mike Huckaby drop this record during his fabulous set the next day, we all lost it! jw ps full review/comments/opinions will be posted sometime next week. I'm still to tired to go through it all over again. We already have our hotel rooms booked for next year! - Original Message - From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 01:49:49 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Re: the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement havent been following the thread so sorry if is a repeat but heard the carl craig remix of la funk mob twice on the same stage on the same day, 1st from aardvarck later from recloose..i was happy Just wanted to add one: Tim Wright - Thirst (Luciano´s dancehall remix) heard this twice at Green Light Go! (Once at Agave and once at Push) and the next night as soon as I walked into Oslo. -d _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- ___ http://www.ign.com Upgrade to Premium IGN Email - 15MB of space - No ads! - Pop3 Downloads Powered by Outblaze
RE: (313) Free Movement Gear
yeah - exactly. Why not take a survey of last year as well. They could even take a survey of the DEMF years. It doens't have to be a huge survey with loads of questions for each year you've attended but it could just be a question of which years did you attend and info about the last year you went (which would include this past festival). well, maybe they have a specific reason for just asking about this past festival. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] nder.co.ukTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/04 10:15 AM cc: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Free Movement Gear well to be honest, It wouldn't hurt would it...I mean you could base it on past experiences as I am sure it all helps for the future.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 04/06/2004 16:06 To: David Gillies Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear yep - I agree. Just because I couldn't go this year doesn't mean I don't support the event or haven't gone at all. MEK David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 06/03/04 09:48 PMSubject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear I wish this survey allowed those of us who couldn't go to be able to voice our support or input. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The survey is solely for the benefit of Movement and Michigan. There is no commercial, corporate agenda. The survey will help folks put on a better event next year. Thanks to everyone for helping. It'll help Movement keep going for years to come. The last page states this: We have received your completed questionnaire. Thank you for taking the time to complete this survey conducted by Davidson-Peterson Associates on behalf of the Movement Festival and the Michigan Office of Tourism. -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear I took the survey - the original link didn't work (it needed a .com after the digitalresearch part) - http://www.digitalresearch.com/movementmusic I am curious, who commissioned this survey? Was it Derrick company? The survey results could be very useful to build a case for keeping this thing alive. Hopefully the data collected will be used for purposes of good and not evil ;) Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that attended Movement, here's your chance to win free Movement shirts, CDs, etc. and help the festival and the birthplace of techno, Detroit. Fill out the survey and let Movement organizers know about your visit to tha big D! Help them organize a better festival for next year by telling them about you. Go to: www.digitalresearch/movementmusic
RE: (313) Free Movement Gear
The survey looks like they are looking for ways to justify state/council funding and/or sponsorships. I.e we brought X $ to the local economy therefore its worth your while keep us running type thing. This is probably why they are not interested in input from people who didn't go, they are after a cross section of money spent not ideas from improvement. Just my guess. Quest Pond -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 June 2004 01:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Free Movement Gear yeah - exactly. Why not take a survey of last year as well. They could even take a survey of the DEMF years. It doens't have to be a huge survey with loads of questions for each year you've attended but it could just be a question of which years did you attend and info about the last year you went (which would include this past festival). well, maybe they have a specific reason for just asking about this past festival. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] nder.co.ukTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/04 10:15 AM cc: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Free Movement Gear well to be honest, It wouldn't hurt would it...I mean you could base it on past experiences as I am sure it all helps for the future.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 04/06/2004 16:06 To: David Gillies Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear yep - I agree. Just because I couldn't go this year doesn't mean I don't support the event or haven't gone at all. MEK David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 06/03/04 09:48 PMSubject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear I wish this survey allowed those of us who couldn't go to be able to voice our support or input. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The survey is solely for the benefit of Movement and Michigan. There is no commercial, corporate agenda. The survey will help folks put on a better event next year. Thanks to everyone for helping. It'll help Movement keep going for years to come. The last page states this: We have received your completed questionnaire. Thank you for taking the time to complete this survey conducted by Davidson-Peterson Associates on behalf of the Movement Festival and the Michigan Office of Tourism. -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear I took the survey - the original link didn't work (it needed a .com after the digitalresearch part) - http://www.digitalresearch.com/movementmusic I am curious, who commissioned this survey? Was it Derrick company? The survey results could be very useful to build a case for keeping this thing alive. Hopefully the data collected will be used for purposes of good and not evil ;) Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that attended Movement, here's your chance to win free Movement shirts, CDs, etc. and help the festival and the birthplace of techno, Detroit. Fill out the survey and let Movement organizers know about your visit to tha big D! Help them organize a better festival for next year by telling them about you. Go to: www.digitalresearch/movementmusic
(313) Robert Moog will be participating in Sónar 2004
The creator of the Moog synthesizer will be giving a conference on Saturday 19 June in Aula 2 of the CCCB, forty years after making his revolutionary invention known to the world. What would the world of modern music be like without Bob Moog?s instruments? More boring, no doubt. His analog synthesizers have influenced popular music in ways that were unimaginable back in 1954 when he began manufacturing theremins with his father. Fifty years on, Bob?s instruments have catapulted a countless number of styles into the future and, in retrospect, both his artistic and technical contributions seem all the more significant. Where would rap and hip-hop be if groups such as Parliament and Funkadelic hadn?t used Moog?s keyboards? Where would rock and roll be if groups like Yes or Edgar Winter hadn?t used them? Would there have been resurgence in classical music without Wendy Carlos and her modular Moog synthesizer? Obviously, these questions can not be answered because synthesizers have infiltrated every style of music. Perhaps back in 1954, Bob Moog and his father only wanted to create something that was modern, a type of sound that only existed in the realm of imagination. Irrespective of his original purpose, it cannot be denied that Bob Moog has left his mark and that thanks to him modern music has changed forever. Robert Moog?s conference is part of the ?Classic Electronica? forum within Conferences and Debates. A day forum which encompasses the will to reflect upon the convergence between the electronica scene and the orchestral possibilities of the debate organised by Masse und Macht. A unique opportunity to look into the future by looking in retrospect into the past.
Re: (313) Future of Movement
I think you make some excellent points. In reference to your last point, would it really taint the festival so much to hire a guy to wrangle sponsors? Someone whose job it is to wrangle sponsors? A guy to lobby to the mayor to drum up support and money for the event? Artists don't have time for that type of stuff, not to mention I imagine pros could do it better. But like I always say, what do I know, I'm not the guy runnin' the show. Kent williams writes: We can go on and on about Movement, and I don't intend to do that here, but I have a few things to say on the subject: 1. There has been much criticism of Movement '04, some of it valid and constructive, but every picture I took at the Festival had people smiling in it. There was a vibe there that is rare. That, to me, is the most precious thing about the Festival. 2. Without discounting in any way the time, money, and heart Derrick May put into the festival, the disorganization and last-minute drama didn't help. There needs to be someone involved with the festival who can sell it to large-dollar sponsors, manage logistics, and get ahead of the curve. Booking the lineup is the fun part, and only about 1% of the job. Kevin Saunderson seems to be poised to take on this role. I don't know Kevin personally, but in the press conference he seemed calm, articulate, and tactful. The fact remains that these guys are at the top of their game in the studio or in the DJ booth, but the skills required to put on a 3 day festival are completely different. Beyond that, everything I have to say about the festival has already been said by Brian Mccollum in the Free Press. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move1_20040601.htm
RE: (313) Friday Treat
does anyone have any of the Black Cock pieces that they don't want?? I'll buy them! jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Friday Treat lil friday treat for the leftfield heads out there.. (courtesy of the dj history page) it's a 'mystery mix' (i.e. no tracklist) by Gerry Rooney. http://www.djhistory.com/mixes/ Gerry is a record dealer of considerable reputation, he's also the guy who did the Black Cock edits with Harvey. He's always got some weird 'under the counter' bits under his stall ; ) It ain't going to be everyone's bag, but I know there's a few heads on this list who are going to appreciate it! do I hear the words Rare Piece? : ) also, check the other mixes out, Sean P (Disco Not Disco Compiler amongst may other things) Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Friday Treat
Kiss your grandmother with that mouth?! ;) MEK FC2 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org .navy.mil cc: Subject: RE: (313) Friday Treat 06/04/04 11:14 AM does anyone have any of the Black Cock pieces that they don't want?? I'll buy them! jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Friday Treat lil friday treat for the leftfield heads out there.. (courtesy of the dj history page) it's a 'mystery mix' (i.e. no tracklist) by Gerry Rooney. http://www.djhistory.com/mixes/ Gerry is a record dealer of considerable reputation, he's also the guy who did the Black Cock edits with Harvey. He's always got some weird 'under the counter' bits under his stall ; ) It ain't going to be everyone's bag, but I know there's a few heads on this list who are going to appreciate it! do I hear the words Rare Piece? : ) also, check the other mixes out, Sean P (Disco Not Disco Compiler amongst may other things) Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) no subject
Ron Jeremy may be able to help... 4/6/04 4:14 PM FC2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] does anyone have any of the Black Cock pieces that they don't want?? I'll buy them! jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Friday Treat lil friday treat for the leftfield heads out there.. (courtesy of the dj history page) it's a 'mystery mix' (i.e. no tracklist) by Gerry Rooney. http://www.djhistory.com/mixes/ Gerry is a record dealer of considerable reputation, he's also the guy who did the Black Cock edits with Harvey. He's always got some weird 'under the counter' bits under his stall ; ) It ain't going to be everyone's bag, but I know there's a few heads on this list who are going to appreciate it! do I hear the words Rare Piece? : ) also, check the other mixes out, Sean P (Disco Not Disco Compiler amongst may other things) Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Future of Movement
In reference to your last point, would it really taint the festival so much to hire a guy to wrangle sponsors? Someone whose job it is to wrangle sponsors? A guy to lobby to the mayor to drum up support and money for the event? Artists don't have time for that type of stuff, not to mention I imagine pros could do it better. They're never going to attract any sponsors unless they do that. No blue chip firm will sponsor something unless it comes through someone they trust with their brand. e.g. their advertising agency. you pay the best ad. agency in the country to go round their blue chip clients and say hey, we've got something here that will be perfect for your brand to be associated with. The company (having already entrusted the ad man millions of dollars of their marketing budget), then say hey, well if you're sure But this is kids stuff, there's marketing and advertising agencies that specialise in this sort of thing - everybody knows that, I'm the bloody postman, and even I know that. Surely they've done that right? Surely.? They shouldn't be organising anything if they havent done that. what's say, $5 payable to an ad-man when he can guarantee you millions in sponsorship revenue? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) no subject
thanks for the sarcasm guys! -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 5:25 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: (313) no subject Ron Jeremy may be able to help... 4/6/04 4:14 PM FC2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] does anyone have any of the Black Cock pieces that they don't want?? I'll buy them! jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Friday Treat lil friday treat for the leftfield heads out there.. (courtesy of the dj history page) it's a 'mystery mix' (i.e. no tracklist) by Gerry Rooney. http://www.djhistory.com/mixes/ Gerry is a record dealer of considerable reputation, he's also the guy who did the Black Cock edits with Harvey. He's always got some weird 'under the counter' bits under his stall ; ) It ain't going to be everyone's bag, but I know there's a few heads on this list who are going to appreciate it! do I hear the words Rare Piece? : ) also, check the other mixes out, Sean P (Disco Not Disco Compiler amongst may other things) Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) movement track i.d.
So it was 'Walking Into Sunshine'. The lyrics go something like: I need a Holiday - Get Away - from the rush/while the goings cheap - gotta get out from the rush ... They'll be Sunshine - chorus - Soon All my rainy days will all be gone Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Central Line track is called Walking Into Sunshine lovely when the bass line comes in! At 8:25 am +0100 4/6/04, Ken Odeluga wrote: It was 'Walking On Sunshine' - Central Line. Classic Larry Levan mix from the 80s. Loving the bright stabby echoed synths with that crunchy groove. I 'You're mine, your're mine you're - walking on sunshine' (synth phrase) 'I've got to tell you that you're doing fine - walking on sunshine' (synth) This was not Central Line I believe, but Rockers Revenge. k
(313) Friday Question - that Latin track
What's your favorite (or top however many) Latin track? - whether it be techno tinged with Latin rhythms, or a straight up MAW vocal cut Mine right now? Been digging some samples of the Pepe Bradock remix of Gotan Project's Santa Maria - now to just get a copy in my hands MEK
RE: (313) Friday Question - that Latin track
Massi - Massi Russ Gabriel - Supermarket Dela Dap - Amaro Shavo Faze Action - Samba -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 5:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Friday Question - that Latin track What's your favorite (or top however many) Latin track? - whether it be techno tinged with Latin rhythms, or a straight up MAW vocal cut Mine right now? Been digging some samples of the Pepe Bradock remix of Gotan Project's Santa Maria - now to just get a copy in my hands MEK # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) tonight at Centre Street
Hello List, I would like to add an event to the already packed friday night. Myself (john arnold) and Todd Osborne will be at Centre Street tonight (friday, june 4th) johnny _ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) Future of Movement
Hiya Kent - your post has me thinking a few things ... I give Derrick credit for driving around as he did that day, asking for donations. My impression of it was somewhat grassroots and showed that he was willing to do pretty much anything to make this work. I'll never fault anyone for caring. No matter what went on behind the scenes to bring this about, it was both sad and inspiring to see someone do this. I would suggest to those involved (planners, artists, sponsors, etc.) that it would be a good idea to sit down and hold a formal private retrospective for Movement 04. That's where you review your original goals/objectives against what really happened. People get to have a say as well (it's important to talk about what went well what didn't in equal measure). At this time you would also talk about ideas for what might be done differently or occur next time. It would be a good idea to have someone experienced in facilitation run the session who was not involved in the festival, that way they can be objective and help keep it balanced. As you might imagine, these sessions can easily get out of hand. I can tell you there is always a debate (amongst those who do this kinda stuff) about how this should be done. Should the planner know the content/project intimately or be an outsider? My opinion is that it works best if the person is an outsider *but* someone able to understand just about anything that goes on (i.e., you can ask the right questions) and make it happen. The best arguments for an objective person is that they can see things that others cannot, if only because they are an outsider and they don't let ego and politics get in the way (if they're good, that is - LOL). Another argument for having a person dedicated to planning/management is that others can focus on doing what it is that they want to or are supposed to be doing, instead of wearing so many hats that their head is spinning and it ends up being an unpleasant time for all (at no fault of anyone other than the situation itself). Of course there has to be status meetings and such, otherwise things get out of hand. Sorry if this is kinda geeky, but I think that if it can work for complex, multi-million dollar projects, then some of the ideas can help with any large undertaking, like a festival. Lisa Kent williams wrote: We can go on and on about Movement, and I don't intend to do that here, but I have a few things to say on the subject: 1. There has been much criticism of Movement '04, some of it valid and constructive, but every picture I took at the Festival had people smiling in it. There was a vibe there that is rare. That, to me, is the most precious thing about the Festival. 2. Without discounting in any way the time, money, and heart Derrick May put into the festival, the disorganization and last-minute drama didn't help. There needs to be someone involved with the festival who can sell it to large-dollar sponsors, manage logistics, and get ahead of the curve. Booking the lineup is the fun part, and only about 1% of the job. Kevin Saunderson seems to be poised to take on this role. I don't know Kevin personally, but in the press conference he seemed calm, articulate, and tactful. The fact remains that these guys are at the top of their game in the studio or in the DJ booth, but the skills required to put on a 3 day festival are completely different. Beyond that, everything I have to say about the festival has already been said by Brian Mccollum in the Free Press. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move1_20040601.htm
RE: (313) Friday Question - that Latin track
Cricco Castelli - Streetlife EP C1 - Cuba Round The Corner -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 12:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Friday Question - that Latin track What's your favorite (or top however many) Latin track? - whether it be techno tinged with Latin rhythms, or a straight up MAW vocal cut Mine right now? Been digging some samples of the Pepe Bradock remix of Gotan Project's Santa Maria - now to just get a copy in my hands MEK
RE: (313) Future of Movement
I agree with Lisa, Kent and many of the other comments made. I support Derrick and his company, but for the festival I think there needs to be a few adjustments to make it happen. 1 a project manager, not an artist running the project but a skilled project manager to make sure it comes together. 2 a detailed budget, face it nothing is free 3 a massive marketing campaign/team 4 Understand that running a festival is like a business, the CEO (Derrick) can only be a success if he surrounds himself with a successful/positive team . Tim -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:46 PM To: Kent williams Cc: 313 list Subject: Re: (313) Future of Movement Hiya Kent - your post has me thinking a few things ... I give Derrick credit for driving around as he did that day, asking for donations. My impression of it was somewhat grassroots and showed that he was willing to do pretty much anything to make this work. I'll never fault anyone for caring. No matter what went on behind the scenes to bring this about, it was both sad and inspiring to see someone do this. I would suggest to those involved (planners, artists, sponsors, etc.) that it would be a good idea to sit down and hold a formal private retrospective for Movement 04. That's where you review your original goals/objectives against what really happened. People get to have a say as well (it's important to talk about what went well what didn't in equal measure). At this time you would also talk about ideas for what might be done differently or occur next time. It would be a good idea to have someone experienced in facilitation run the session who was not involved in the festival, that way they can be objective and help keep it balanced. As you might imagine, these sessions can easily get out of hand. I can tell you there is always a debate (amongst those who do this kinda stuff) about how this should be done. Should the planner know the content/project intimately or be an outsider? My opinion is that it works best if the person is an outsider *but* someone able to understand just about anything that goes on (i.e., you can ask the right questions) and make it happen. The best arguments for an objective person is that they can see things that others cannot, if only because they are an outsider and they don't let ego and politics get in the way (if they're good, that is - LOL). Another argument for having a person dedicated to planning/management is that others can focus on doing what it is that they want to or are supposed to be doing, instead of wearing so many hats that their head is spinning and it ends up being an unpleasant time for all (at no fault of anyone other than the situation itself). Of course there has to be status meetings and such, otherwise things get out of hand. Sorry if this is kinda geeky, but I think that if it can work for complex, multi-million dollar projects, then some of the ideas can help with any large undertaking, like a festival. Lisa Kent williams wrote: We can go on and on about Movement, and I don't intend to do that here, but I have a few things to say on the subject: 1. There has been much criticism of Movement '04, some of it valid and constructive, but every picture I took at the Festival had people smiling in it. There was a vibe there that is rare. That, to me, is the most precious thing about the Festival. 2. Without discounting in any way the time, money, and heart Derrick May put into the festival, the disorganization and last-minute drama didn't help. There needs to be someone involved with the festival who can sell it to large-dollar sponsors, manage logistics, and get ahead of the curve. Booking the lineup is the fun part, and only about 1% of the job. Kevin Saunderson seems to be poised to take on this role. I don't know Kevin personally, but in the press conference he seemed calm, articulate, and tactful. The fact remains that these guys are at the top of their game in the studio or in the DJ booth, but the skills required to put on a 3 day festival are completely different. Beyond that, everything I have to say about the festival has already been said by Brian Mccollum in the Free Press. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move1_20040601.htm The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
Re: (313) Future of Movement
So in other words you were assuming that they DO hire help finding sponsors, and for some reason I was thinking they do NOT. I thought D. May more or less did this thing single-handedly, which is the reason behind all the drama. I certainly could be wrong, I'm not in the know about this. Even if I am right, I think they got the job done in the end. Everything could be done better, sure. I wouldn't object to paying a small admission fee (there's a Lansingfest or some such thing where you buy a $5 button that gets you in all week, it's just that simple). Would this reduce the 1,000,000 attendance to 900,000? Oh, no! Obviously if people won't pay a few bucks for a 3 day music festival they're not all that interested anyway. Remember the bottom line: movement 04 was a veritable religious experience for most. I'm sure there's a better way, somehow, someway, to streamline how it's done, but the bottom line is that IT HAPPENED, which is why I try to tread lightly in these threads. The fact that it went down is good enough for me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surely they've done that right? Surely.? They shouldn't be organising anything if they havent done that. what's say, $5 payable to an ad-man when he can guarantee you millions in sponsorship revenue?
RE: (313) Future of Movement
If and when these suggestions ever happen, movement/demf will just become another Ultra Music Festival with a pay per view special, and Paul Oakenfold or PVD spinning the closing set. Yes, the festival was lucky enough to have even happened, but when you throw budgets, audits, managers, etc. into the mix, the music loses priority to the bottom line.. Fred Wilson Business Services Department International Rescue Committee http://www.theirc.org -Original Message- From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 2:13 PM To: 313 list Subject: RE: (313) Future of Movement I agree with Lisa, Kent and many of the other comments made. I support Derrick and his company, but for the festival I think there needs to be a few adjustments to make it happen. 1 a project manager, not an artist running the project but a skilled project manager to make sure it comes together. 2 a detailed budget, face it nothing is free 3 a massive marketing campaign/team 4 Understand that running a festival is like a business, the CEO (Derrick) can only be a success if he surrounds himself with a successful/positive team . Tim -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:46 PM To: Kent williams Cc: 313 list Subject: Re: (313) Future of Movement Hiya Kent - your post has me thinking a few things ... I give Derrick credit for driving around as he did that day, asking for donations. My impression of it was somewhat grassroots and showed that he was willing to do pretty much anything to make this work. I'll never fault anyone for caring. No matter what went on behind the scenes to bring this about, it was both sad and inspiring to see someone do this. I would suggest to those involved (planners, artists, sponsors, etc.) that it would be a good idea to sit down and hold a formal private retrospective for Movement 04. That's where you review your original goals/objectives against what really happened. People get to have a say as well (it's important to talk about what went well what didn't in equal measure). At this time you would also talk about ideas for what might be done differently or occur next time. It would be a good idea to have someone experienced in facilitation run the session who was not involved in the festival, that way they can be objective and help keep it balanced. As you might imagine, these sessions can easily get out of hand. I can tell you there is always a debate (amongst those who do this kinda stuff) about how this should be done. Should the planner know the content/project intimately or be an outsider? My opinion is that it works best if the person is an outsider *but* someone able to understand just about anything that goes on (i.e., you can ask the right questions) and make it happen. The best arguments for an objective person is that they can see things that others cannot, if only because they are an outsider and they don't let ego and politics get in the way (if they're good, that is - LOL). Another argument for having a person dedicated to planning/management is that others can focus on doing what it is that they want to or are supposed to be doing, instead of wearing so many hats that their head is spinning and it ends up being an unpleasant time for all (at no fault of anyone other than the situation itself). Of course there has to be status meetings and such, otherwise things get out of hand. Sorry if this is kinda geeky, but I think that if it can work for complex, multi-million dollar projects, then some of the ideas can help with any large undertaking, like a festival. Lisa Kent williams wrote: We can go on and on about Movement, and I don't intend to do that here, but I have a few things to say on the subject: 1. There has been much criticism of Movement '04, some of it valid and constructive, but every picture I took at the Festival had people smiling in it. There was a vibe there that is rare. That, to me, is the most precious thing about the Festival. 2. Without discounting in any way the time, money, and heart Derrick May put into the festival, the disorganization and last-minute drama didn't help. There needs to be someone involved with the festival who can sell it to large-dollar sponsors, manage logistics, and get ahead of the curve. Booking the lineup is the fun part, and only about 1% of the job. Kevin Saunderson seems to be poised to take on this role. I don't know Kevin personally, but in the press conference he seemed calm, articulate, and tactful. The fact remains that these guys are at the top of their game in the studio or in the DJ booth, but the skills required to put on a 3 day festival are completely different. Beyond that, everything I have to say about the festival has already been said by Brian Mccollum in the Free Press. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move1_20040601.htm The contents of this
RE: (313) Future of Movement
Why do I find that statement funny coming from someone who is the business services department of a non-profit humanitarian organization? ;) you guys have finance controllers, finance directors, program managers, grant officers, coordinators of all sorts, deputy directors, etc. but you seem to manage to keep Sally Struthers out of the picture. I think it can also happen with the music festival. I think that Oakenfold and PVD would be an impossibility while Derrick May still has *any* control over the festival. I doubt they rank too highly on his favorite artist list - they might, however, play at the Dunk the DJ stage I wish they'd bring that stage back :) MEK Fred Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: RE: (313) Future of Movement 06/04/04 01:15 PM If and when these suggestions ever happen, movement/demf will just become another Ultra Music Festival with a pay per view special, and Paul Oakenfold or PVD spinning the closing set. Yes, the festival was lucky enough to have even happened, but when you throw budgets, audits, managers, etc. into the mix, the music loses priority to the bottom line.. Fred Wilson Business Services Department International Rescue Committee http://www.theirc.org -Original Message- From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 2:13 PM To: 313 list Subject: RE: (313) Future of Movement I agree with Lisa, Kent and many of the other comments made. I support Derrick and his company, but for the festival I think there needs to be a few adjustments to make it happen. 1 a project manager, not an artist running the project but a skilled project manager to make sure it comes together. 2 a detailed budget, face it nothing is free 3 a massive marketing campaign/team 4 Understand that running a festival is like a business, the CEO (Derrick) can only be a success if he surrounds himself with a successful/positive team . Tim -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:46 PM To: Kent williams Cc: 313 list Subject: Re: (313) Future of Movement Hiya Kent - your post has me thinking a few things ... I give Derrick credit for driving around as he did that day, asking for donations. My impression of it was somewhat grassroots and showed that he was willing to do pretty much anything to make this work. I'll never fault anyone for caring. No matter what went on behind the scenes to bring this about, it was both sad and inspiring to see someone do this. I would suggest to those involved (planners, artists, sponsors, etc.) that it would be a good idea to sit down and hold a formal private retrospective for Movement 04. That's where you review your original goals/objectives against what really happened. People get to have a say as well (it's important to talk about what went well what didn't in equal measure). At this time you would also talk about ideas for what might be done differently or occur next time. It would be a good idea to have someone experienced in facilitation run the session who was not involved in the festival, that way they can be objective and help keep it balanced. As you might imagine, these sessions can easily get out of hand. I can tell you there is always a debate (amongst those who do this kinda stuff) about how this should be done. Should the planner know the content/project intimately or be an outsider? My opinion is that it works best if the person is an outsider *but* someone able to understand just about anything that goes on (i.e., you can ask the right questions) and make it happen. The best arguments for an objective person is that they can see things that others cannot, if only because they are an outsider and they don't let ego and politics get in the way (if they're good, that is - LOL). Another argument for having a person dedicated to planning/management is that others can focus on doing what it is that they want to or are supposed to be doing, instead of wearing so many hats that their head is spinning and it ends up being an unpleasant time for all (at no
Re: (313) my personal experience at movement
jeff said: Also, on this note does anyone besides me think it odd and/or suprising that several members of UR headlined a festival sponsored primarily by Sony? AFAIK, sony music, and sony corp. are two different entities. You can't hate the son for the sins of the father, IMO. dense
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At 02:29 PM 6/4/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt they rank too highly on his favorite artist list - they might, however, play at the Dunk the DJ stage I wish they'd bring that stage back :) what's the point? it rains like mad every time i go and everyone gets soaked! -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; http://www.mkb-dj.org Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) tonight at the belmont
dan lucas, andy hegler, and some pints. electro/detroit 10-2 $5 or less 10215 joseph campau hamtramck www.detroittechnomilitia.com
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I respectfully disagree. I totally know what you're saying (and have seen it happen), but with the right people and a shared vision, it doesn't have to go this route. And I don't think it's like an all or nothing kinda thing with respect to adjusting the scope or approach to it. There is a lot of middle ground between total chaos and ultra-formal, by-the-book project management. Sometimes just a few tweaks can be very, very powerful without selling your soul or vision to 'the man.' That the festival has gone on for so many years has to be testament to the passion that lives with those who put it on and those who attend. I think a space in between is possible. Lisa Fred Wilson wrote: If and when these suggestions ever happen, movement/demf will just become another Ultra Music Festival with a pay per view special, and Paul Oakenfold or PVD spinning the closing set. Yes, the festival was lucky enough to have even happened, but when you throw budgets, audits, managers, etc. into the mix, the music loses priority to the bottom line.. Fred Wilson Business Services Department International Rescue Committee http://www.theirc.org -Original Message- From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 2:13 PM To: 313 list Subject: RE: (313) Future of Movement I agree with Lisa, Kent and many of the other comments made. I support Derrick and his company, but for the festival I think there needs to be a few adjustments to make it happen. 1 a project manager, not an artist running the project but a skilled project manager to make sure it comes together. 2 a detailed budget, face it nothing is free 3 a massive marketing campaign/team 4 Understand that running a festival is like a business, the CEO (Derrick) can only be a success if he surrounds himself with a successful/positive team . Tim -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:46 PM To: Kent williams Cc: 313 list Subject: Re: (313) Future of Movement Hiya Kent - your post has me thinking a few things ... I give Derrick credit for driving around as he did that day, asking for donations. My impression of it was somewhat grassroots and showed that he was willing to do pretty much anything to make this work. I'll never fault anyone for caring. No matter what went on behind the scenes to bring this about, it was both sad and inspiring to see someone do this. I would suggest to those involved (planners, artists, sponsors, etc.) that it would be a good idea to sit down and hold a formal private retrospective for Movement 04. That's where you review your original goals/objectives against what really happened. People get to have a say as well (it's important to talk about what went well what didn't in equal measure). At this time you would also talk about ideas for what might be done differently or occur next time. It would be a good idea to have someone experienced in facilitation run the session who was not involved in the festival, that way they can be objective and help keep it balanced. As you might imagine, these sessions can easily get out of hand. I can tell you there is always a debate (amongst those who do this kinda stuff) about how this should be done. Should the planner know the content/project intimately or be an outsider? My opinion is that it works best if the person is an outsider *but* someone able to understand just about anything that goes on (i.e., you can ask the right questions) and make it happen. The best arguments for an objective person is that they can see things that others cannot, if only because they are an outsider and they don't let ego and politics get in the way (if they're good, that is - LOL). Another argument for having a person dedicated to planning/management is that others can focus on doing what it is that they want to or are supposed to be doing, instead of wearing so many hats that their head is spinning and it ends up being an unpleasant time for all (at no fault of anyone other than the situation itself). Of course there has to be status meetings and such, otherwise things get out of hand. Sorry if this is kinda geeky, but I think that if it can work for complex, multi-million dollar projects, then some of the ideas can help with any large undertaking, like a festival. Lisa Kent williams wrote: We can go on and on about Movement, and I don't intend to do that here, but I have a few things to say on the subject: 1. There has been much criticism of Movement '04, some of it valid and constructive, but every picture I took at the Festival had people smiling in it. There was a vibe there that is rare. That, to me, is the most precious thing about the Festival. 2. Without discounting in any way the time, money, and heart Derrick May put into the festival, the disorganization and last-minute drama didn't help. There needs to be someone involved with the festival who
Re: (313) Dan Curtin djing in London
On Jun 4, 2004, at 3:20 PM, Paul Kendrick wrote: Thanks for your kind words... We do try and put people on that we want to see as much as the people who we feel are not being booked.. Blatant sorta-self-promotion You should add/book (my very good friend) J. Bondy (a.k.a. Volum), then. He records for Compost (and others), does a cracking live post-Electro set, has played in London with the likes of Andrea Parker and Bolz-Bolz, and (to try and keep on-topic) he's living in Berlin where he and Dan Curtin hang out all the time :-) (In case you need references) secret He and Delikat Records are throwing a party in Berlin on July 10th(?) with Dan Bell, Volum and the Delikat crew - on a DDR boat in the river across from Club Maria! He and Dan Bell will also be playing a 1000-person outdoor party outside of Dublin on July 3rd ... /secret /Blatant sorta-self-promotion - Greg
Re: (313) Friday Question - that Latin track
Los Picaros off of Fabrice Lig's newest LP. - Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno
(313) 313 in SF this weekend
A couple of events to note: Amp Fiddler www.blasthaus.com Also, Sutekh back from a Japan tour tonite at Luna Lounge and tomorrow, Juan Atkins at Club Six
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Oh yeah, I got the 12 of that - that should be added to my list as well That whole LP is fantastic - hats off again to Fabrice MEK Brian 'balistic' Prince To: 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: .comSubject: Re: (313) Friday Question - that Latin track 06/04/04 02:07 PM Los Picaros off of Fabrice Lig's newest LP. - Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno
(313) Claude Young in Minneapolis
Pattern Buffer CLAUDE YOUNG JUNE 12th brought to you by those that care Hush:::Intellephunk:::Abiotic. CLAUDE YOUNG RARE intimate 3 hour set Musical Support from theDEVIOUSone and Centrific. ASCOT ROOM Quest FREE NO Cover 21 plus doors at 9:00 Get there early to ensure entry capacity will be hit. this is no joke - the event is free and the space is on the smallish side so if you intend on going - get there early
Re: (313) my personal experience at movement
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 02:34:45PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jeff said: Also, on this note does anyone besides me think it odd and/or suprising that several members of UR headlined a festival sponsored primarily by Sony? AFAIK, sony music, and sony corp. are two different entities. You can't hate the son for the sins of the father, IMO. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=SNE to quote: Sony Corporation is engaged in the development, design, manufacture and sale of various kinds of electronic equipment, instruments and devices for consumer and industrial markets. The Company develops, produces, manufactures and markets home-use game consoles and software. It is also engaged in the development, production, manufacture and distribution of recorded music in all commercial formats and musical genres. endquote. all commercial formats and musical genres like bastardized trance remixes. Then again we all use MDR-V700s (and many of us Vaios as well) so we really have no room to talk. -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
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At 03:52 PM 6/4/2004, Rev. Jeffrey Paul wrote: Sony Corporation is engaged in the development, design, manufacture and sale of various kinds of electronic equipment, instruments and devices for consumer and industrial markets. The Company develops, produces, manufactures and markets home-use game consoles and software. It is also engaged in the development, production, manufacture and distribution of recorded music in all commercial formats and musical genres. http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/CorporateInfo/Subsidiaries/index.html When they say 'subsidiaries' I'm not sure if they're completely owned by the parent or if it's some weird keiretsu arrangement. Someday you will drive your Sony to the Sony to pick up some more Sony. -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; http://www.mkb-dj.org Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 04:02:15PM -0400, Scott Kraemer Ellis wrote: I think he's referring to them stealing Knights of the Jaguar a couple of years back. I think Dennis was too. :) Sony Music did the remix, Sony Electronics and/or SCEA did the festival sponsorship. Left and right arms of the same evil. I should probably stop doing their bidding one of these days. -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
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Someday you will drive your Sony to the Sony to pick up some more Sony. And marklar your marklar with a marklar.
(313) Future of Movement
Right. I was at the press conference and this was discussed in some detail. It must be noted that there already is an existing management structure behind the festival who have credibility independent of it. Check Barbara Deyo who seems to have been running most of it, the Scottish woman (who's name I don't remember that handled the bookings) that has experience organising large festivals in the UK, the Detroit dude who is also on the Superbowl planning committee, etc. My impression from the press conference (given that there was some obvious spin in bits) was that there is a committed group of experienced people running things who are totally pressured between the tension we're feeling in these arguments - commercialism versus integrity. What I took from the discussion is that they actually *have* the people in place now, they just need the funds from Movement '04 to make things happen right in '05. Perhaps that's an overly optimistic simplification and the opinion formed based on a glimpse of info from someone 4000 miles away, but there you have it. The most salient thought in my mind is that the money has to come from somewhere other than the city. You remember that thread about federal cutbacks on school funding in Detroit the other week? Is Movement really more important? No. We either need to fund it out of our own pockets or there has to be more sponsorship. My recommendation (for what it's worth): charge $1 per entry. That way you incent people to support the vendors and can get at least an additional $500,000 of support, which also gives advertisers more of a feeling that they will get the attention they want. Just a thought. Also keep in mind that people are going to fight hard to make it happen in its current format, not f*cking with the integrity, perhaps experimenting with different means of funding it in order to retain the $75-80 million of revenue this means to the city every year. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Someday you will drive your Sony to the Sony to pick up some more Sony. Malkovich? MEK
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On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 09:11:20PM +0100, Phonopsia wrote: My recommendation (for what it's worth): charge $1 per entry. That way you incent people to support the vendors and can get at least an additional $500,000 of support, which also gives advertisers more of a feeling that they will get the attention they want. Just a thought. I came up with the exact same idea on Monday, after being hassled for the umpteenth time by one of the same dozen bums that's ALWAYS wandering around downtown. Forget the $500k it'd bring to the funding... the real benefit would be keeping out the bums. This will, of course, never happen, because the only way that the festival is the largest anything in the world is with the free qualifier, and we all know that they'll never let that one die. -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
RE: (313) Friday Question - that Latin track
So many great ones, where do I start? So here are some classics: Brinca - Ralphi Rosario, all four mixes on the original are great Los Kings del Mambo - Studio X, pretty much the definitive Latin house track in the San Francisco scene Body - Funky Green Dogs, this is basically Murk's remix of several of their own previous classics, a little more spaced-out than their usual earthy sound ... Ralph and Oscar are superb craftsmen and always soulful The Bounce - Kenlou, simple and powerful, the real masters at work, what more can you say My Anthem (Bay Ridge Style) - Mike Delgado, often overlooked but always consistent Fly Like an Eagle - Neville Brothers, Little Louie and Kenny Dope make a great reintepretation of Steve Miller by the Nevilles even better
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sounds like they already have a lot in place. I'd happily pay to get in. I wonder how much they'd get if they still billed it as a 'free' festival but asked for donations right on the way in (when people presumably have money). and maybe tie part of the 'donations' to a local Detroit youth group or positive social change effort? of course it would be nice to see the city kick in a bit! hopefully the survey results will support more involvement from the city - if that's in fact a good thing. lisa Phonopsia wrote: Right. I was at the press conference and this was discussed in some detail. It must be noted that there already is an existing management structure behind the festival who have credibility independent of it. Check Barbara Deyo who seems to have been running most of it, the Scottish woman (who's name I don't remember that handled the bookings) that has experience organising large festivals in the UK, the Detroit dude who is also on the Superbowl planning committee, etc. My impression from the press conference (given that there was some obvious spin in bits) was that there is a committed group of experienced people running things who are totally pressured between the tension we're feeling in these arguments - commercialism versus integrity. What I took from the discussion is that they actually *have* the people in place now, they just need the funds from Movement '04 to make things happen right in '05. Perhaps that's an overly optimistic simplification and the opinion formed based on a glimpse of info from someone 4000 miles away, but there you have it. The most salient thought in my mind is that the money has to come from somewhere other than the city. You remember that thread about federal cutbacks on school funding in Detroit the other week? Is Movement really more important? No. We either need to fund it out of our own pockets or there has to be more sponsorship. My recommendation (for what it's worth): charge $1 per entry. That way you incent people to support the vendors and can get at least an additional $500,000 of support, which also gives advertisers more of a feeling that they will get the attention they want. Just a thought. Also keep in mind that people are going to fight hard to make it happen in its current format, not f*cking with the integrity, perhaps experimenting with different means of funding it in order to retain the $75-80 million of revenue this means to the city every year. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
