(313) vague terrain - sat. april 29th w/ noah pred, naw & b. kawula

2006-04-06 Thread Neil Wiernik


Hello Friends,

This is just a brief note regarding the April vague terrain event. This
month we are very excited to be hosting the first Toronto live
performance of BC-expat and DJ-about-the-town Noah Pred. Joining Noah
will be dub & minimal techno newcomer b. kawula, vague terrain residents
naw and DJ ether.mann and live video courtesy of mantissa. It should be  a
stimulating night of minimal, melodic, and dub techno and video.

related downloads:

b. kawula studio track -
http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/archives/mp3/multitude.mp3

noah pred dj set (hz event/april 1st) -
http://noahpred.com/audio/mixes/dj/npred_hertz_dj-mix.mp3

saturday april 29th...

noah pred - http://www.metapathrecordings.com / http://www.fukhouse.ca/
naw - vague terrain / http://noisefactoryrecords.com /
http://www.phoniq.net b. kawula - http://www.bitrockalumnae.com/
dj / ether.mann - vague terrain / http://www.serialconsign.com
video / mantissa - http://www.mantissa.ca

extensive artist information at
http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/events.html

art bar.gladstone hotel
1214 queen street west
toronto.canada
$5 / 9pm - 3am

--

We've also launched a new discussion list vaguediscuss, which picks up
where the (now defunct) phoniqlist left off. Vaguediscuss is a mailing
list dedicated to themes related to new media art, with a North American
focus.  Ideally, over time it will become a means for the networking of
musicians, artist, curators, and commentators to share information,
promote events, and engage in general discourse related to technology,
art, and culture.  More information about vaguediscuss is available at:
http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/mailing.html

We hope to see you out on the 29th, thanks for taking the time to listen
to what we are up to.

Greg Smith & Neil Wiernik
http://www.vagueterrain.net


(313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany?

2006-04-06 Thread Joost P

http://www.mambo-kurt.de/php/mp3s.php?bereich=musik&sub=1


Re: (313) minimal sounds about Costello

2006-04-06 Thread seek


- Original Message - 
From: "v12"



costello - "together is the new alone" sounded unique.


And snore-y.



sounds like everything else around "kompakt sound area"
pity.



Cool!  The Kompakt-backlash bankwagon!  I need a ticket!

seek



Re: (313) minimal sounds about Costello

2006-04-06 Thread v12
costello - "together is the new alone" sounded unique.
never heard abnything valueable by him since then.
sounds like everything else around "kompakt sound area"
pity.

/12
- Original Message - 
From: "seek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: (313) minimal sounds about Costello


> - Original Message - 
> From: "dave cronin" 
> >  in the mood for the deep
> > minimal stuff.
> 
> 
>  http://www.discogs.com/label/Minimise
> 
> Donnacha Costello: the 'Color' series.  Nice.
> 
> seek
> 
> 


Re: (313) minimal sounds about Costello

2006-04-06 Thread seek
- Original Message - 
From: "dave cronin" 

 in the mood for the deep
minimal stuff.



http://www.discogs.com/label/Minimise

Donnacha Costello: the 'Color' series.  Nice.

seek



Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread seek
- Original Message - 
From: "/0" 




yuck, I hated kosmischer.


Ditto.  Double yuck.   =/

I was a big fan of his farben and gramm stuff, 


Ditto.Don't misled by that Kosmischer krap;
Farben's not outlived 'his' usefulness.;)

seek





Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread seek


- Original Message - 
From: "/0" 


if you like alva noto, check out christian fennesz



Yep: 'Paint it Black', 'Endless Summer': Fennesz re-invents the weal. 


seek



Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread v12
"kosmischer" aint consistent quality wise so to speak..but it's worth a
listen for that trak5's guitars only ;)

/12



FW: (313) puntang / versatile

2006-04-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 06 April 2006 01:27
> 
> according to someone on a message board im on, version one on the 12"
> is the same as the cassette and the bootleg of it that came 
> out last year. version 2 is also different from the one that 
> appears on the electric institute LP on new religion.

That is correct



Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread /0

yuck, I hated kosmischer.

I was a big fan of his farben and gramm stuff, but then he, to borrow a 
phrase from the englishmen here, disappeared up his own arse.  granted my 
taste in glitch has soured, but his glitch is purposeful and meaningful, not 
just skips and pops and dc offsets for no good reason


now he sounds like someone else trying to sound like farben




- Original Message - 
From: "v12" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "seek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: (313) minimal sounds



another not to be missed:


jan jelinek

with his "loop finding jaqzz records" and decent/recent "kosmischer pitch"
,both on scape.
unique sampling imho. 


Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread v12
another not to be missed:


jan jelinek

with his "loop finding jaqzz records" and decent/recent "kosmischer pitch"
,both on scape.
unique sampling imho.



Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread /0

if you like alva noto, check out christian fennesz

- Original Message - 
From: "seek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: (313) minimal sounds




- Original Message - 
From: "/0"
also, not detroit, but check out frank bretschneiders newer works for 
some interesting minimalism




'Looping...' is wonderful:
http://www.discogs.com/release/261563

Noto's stuff's great, too:
http://www.alvanoto.com/

seek 


Re: (313) Detroit Sold for scrap?

2006-04-06 Thread diana potts

 The founders of The Onion are from Michigan. Good to
know they still poke fun at their roots.


--- robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/46937
> 
> :)
> 
> robin...
> 


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 


Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread v12
maybe a bit off-topic?... dunno

http://outoneart.com/mixes/fixia_-_deeper.mp3


a mix including rhythm n sound,deepchord ,ridis,thule and related sounds for
chordy-echo-fetishists ;)

___
minimal but not clicky and not slamming either:

surely anything by deepchord/octal recs
thule musik (ok,ozy uses some very short soundsamples,but these are in no
way ear-scratching, it's actually 100% minimal, no "micro" ;)
+ remember old pacou's label "Linear Logic" - some unique stuff by him and
imax on it...
+also recent stuff by mike parker on his geophone label (i.e. caesura 2x12")
is defo worth a listen
and of course...convextion ;)
also thorsten profrock's aliases - remember him?

+forget the teenage reason/reaktor-driven BC-clones - it's all empty imho.


/12





Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread seek


- Original Message - 
From: "/0"

also, not detroit, but check out frank bretschneiders newer works for some 
interesting minimalism




'Looping...' is wonderful:
http://www.discogs.com/release/261563

Noto's stuff's great, too:
http://www.alvanoto.com/

seek 





(313) Detroit Sold for scrap?

2006-04-06 Thread robin


http://www.theonion.com/content/node/46937

:)

robin...


Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread /0
fab turned me on to jpls or something like that, he can pipe in with the record 
name, but its good plastikman-esque stuff, but adding enough to make it 
something new and interesting.

also, not detroit, but check out frank bretschneiders newer works for some 
interesting minimalism

-Joe


 seek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dave cronin" 
> 
> > just picked up that ia bericochea on rojo, the alex
> > under on plus 8, and the sleeparchive 2x12" all of
> > which have really gotten me in the mood for the deep
> > minimal stuff.
> > 
> > anything new like this coming out of detroit these
> > days?  
> 
> 
> Not from Detroit, but it works:
>  http://www.discogs.com/label/Octal
>  http://www.discogs.com/artist/Octal+Industries
> 
> seek
> 
> np: Octal, Octal, Octal, etc...


Re: (313) minimal sounds Octal

2006-04-06 Thread seek
- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr."

On 4/6/06, seek wrote:

 http://www.discogs.com/label/Octal
 http://www.discogs.com/artist/Octal+Industries


it says here that those are from detroit
==



http://www.architexture.ca/_music/mixes.php
DiV / Gillsans Mixes 
OCTALRECORDSmix *new [deepdubtechno]

http://www.architexture.ca/_music/gillsans_OCTALRECORDSmix.mp3
March 06
This mix was made with the 4 releases from Octal Records.



Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread seek
- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." 

Not from Detroit, but it works:
 http://www.discogs.com/label/Octal
 http://www.discogs.com/artist/Octal+Industries


it says here that those are from detroit

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Sickinger
=



Even better still, then.

seek



Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread fab.

hi dave



just picked up that ia bericochea on rojo, the alex
under on plus 8, and the sleeparchive 2x12" all of
which have really gotten me in the mood for the deep
minimal stuff.



nice! the ia bericochea stuff on minus from a few years back is also 
superbly deep and minimal (in the original sense of the term)



anything new like this coming out of detroit these
days?


this i too would like to know.
what happened to deeptechno(tm) ?


i'm pretty much over the glitch take on this stuff,
but am totally thirsting for that raw, jackin, but not
necessarily slammin side of techno.



me too.im especially digging what i call post-minimal techno, often 
wierd and f**ked up, like the louderbach material and the new oliver ho 12" 
on klang, under the raudive moniker



take care
fab.

CITYMORB MUSIC
www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

out now: CTM002 SMBP - Stars Falling ep.
next release: CTM004 Vermont - The Santa Cruz Operation ep. 



Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 4/6/06, seek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not from Detroit, but it works:
>  http://www.discogs.com/label/Octal
>  http://www.discogs.com/artist/Octal+Industries

it says here that those are from detroit

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Sickinger

tom


Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread Martin Dust


On 6 Apr 2006, at 16:13, dave cronin wrote:


just picked up that ia bericochea on rojo, the alex
under on plus 8, and the sleeparchive 2x12" all of
which have really gotten me in the mood for the deep
minimal stuff.


The new Regis stuff is even more minimal, I'll check which label/12" 
his stuff is coming out on, it very good.

Blacklight Sleaze on NRK is pretty fine and jacking
Falko Brocksieper, Hardwired on Tuningspork is also very good - 
Hardwired EP

Inxec on Contexterrior



anything new like this coming out of detroit these
days?

i'm pretty much over the glitch take on this stuff,
but am totally thirsting for that raw, jackin, but not
necessarily slammin side of techno.


Shame, Kero has some great stuff coming on Blueprint...

m



Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread seek
- Original Message - 
From: "dave cronin" 


just picked up that ia bericochea on rojo, the alex
under on plus 8, and the sleeparchive 2x12" all of
which have really gotten me in the mood for the deep
minimal stuff.

anything new like this coming out of detroit these
days?  



Not from Detroit, but it works:
http://www.discogs.com/label/Octal
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Octal+Industries

seek

np: Octal, Octal, Octal, etc...



RE: (313) techno/house vs folk music

2006-04-06 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
"Just let me tell you about the hump-backed Whale and its effect on the
South Sea bubble"

I think I'm making a track with that name tonite. I'm still laffing
hella hard! I know some chicks with that vocal quality too, but could
never put my finger on what it was...


KKs
MWNB-
-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Dan Bean
Subject: Re: (313) techno/house vs folk music

>
> I know what you're saying though, very Everything But the Girl in a 
> way.

Tracy has a much better "come to bed and I may even murder you" vocal 
than Beth, who is probably more likely to have a "Just let me tell you 
about the hump-backed Whale and its effect on the South Sea bubble" 
vocal, IMHO :)

m


RE: (313) techno/house vs folk music

2006-04-06 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
That's awesome! The description that makes the most sense to my tiny
picture brain. I saw the beth show going on in Detroit and the
description of it got me thinking about this as a genre. As I've gotten
some great recommendations from the list, it does seem that she's(beth)
more on some poppy and vanilla shxt, though some of the remixers do her
more justice (it seems). Man, I've gotta say, I'm definitely more
partial (having had my proverbial way with the genre via p2p last night)
to the stuff that employs more bluesy stylings on the guitar (if any
guitar at all). A lot of what falls under this category seems to be just
shoegaze with machines (cool by me). But I'm loving all of it. Thanks
list for all the recommendations and for helping me blow the chaff off
with minimal effort. 

KKS
MWNB

-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Dan Bean
Subject: Re: (313) techno/house vs folk music

>
> I know what you're saying though, very Everything But the Girl in a 
> way.

Tracy has a much better "come to bed and I may even murder you" vocal 
than Beth, who is probably more likely to have a "Just let me tell you 
about the hump-backed Whale and its effect on the South Sea bubble" 
vocal, IMHO :)

m


(313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread dave cronin
just picked up that ia bericochea on rojo, the alex
under on plus 8, and the sleeparchive 2x12" all of
which have really gotten me in the mood for the deep
minimal stuff.

anything new like this coming out of detroit these
days?  

i'm pretty much over the glitch take on this stuff,
but am totally thirsting for that raw, jackin, but not
necessarily slammin side of techno.

tips appreciated 

-d


(313) Decks/Car/Mix

2006-04-06 Thread Martin Dust
Strange week in Sheffield, it's grey with that fine drizzle but with 
the same kind of warmth you find inside a Tuppaware box after it's been 
left in hot car

Web cam here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/webcams/sheffielduniversity1.shtml

Decks
Skream, Midnight Request Line, 12"   
Sleeparchive, Elephant Island Ep, 12"
Sleeparchive, Infrared Glow Ep, 12"   
Sleeparchive, Recycle Ep, 12"
Sleeparchive, Research Ep, 12"   
Specials, Ghost Town and Friday Night/Saturday Morning 7"
Morrissey, You Have Killed Me 7"

Still In The Box
Smash Tv, Air, Original Mix, Bpitch Control
Smash Tv, Earth Original Mix, Bpitch Control
David K, ohhh Original Mix, Cocoon Recordings
David K, me Laptop I, Original Mix, Cocoon Recordings
The Black Dog remixes 4 3s 555vince Watson Dust Science Recordings
Onionz,  Play Dat Song, Original Mix2020 Vision Recordings
Apparat and Ellen Allien,  Turbo Dreams, Original Mix, bpitch Control
2 Dollar Egg, Turnout, Original Mix, sender Records
Cocteau Twins, Peppermint Pig, Original Mix, 4AD
Terence Fixmer, Resistance, Original Mix, international Deejay Gigolo 
Records


Car Mix
Dubstep Sufferah is http://www.grievousangel.net/DubstepSufferah.mp3
Still Dub and Grime on the mix side this is great



Re: (313) techno/house vs folk music

2006-04-06 Thread Martin Dust


I know what you're saying though, very Everything But the Girl in a 
way.


Tracy has a much better "come to bed and I may even murder you" vocal 
than Beth, who is probably more likely to have a "Just let me tell you 
about the hump-backed Whale and its effect on the South Sea bubble" 
vocal, IMHO :)


m



RE: (313) techno/house vs folk music

2006-04-06 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




while I love those three I have to disagree - Orton has written some very
nice pop tunes and she did a great EP with Terry Callier.  She's not the
best example of "folktronica" by any means.  Just the most visible and
accessible.  I wouldn't even associate her with the genre (if it even
exists).
I know what you're saying though, very Everything But the Girl in a way.

MEK


   
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 o.uk>  To 
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 04/06/06 04:23 AM  cc 
   
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   RE: (313) techno/house vs folk  
   music   
   
   
   
   
   
   




Avoid Beth Orton at all costs would be my advice. It's bland, insipid
coffee table snoozerama!

The only good thing she's done that I've heard is Spill - Don't Wanna Know
'Bout Evil

Plenty of good electronic folk out there with out recourse to her.

e.g.

Greg Davis
Animal Collective
Tuung




Re: (313) techno/house vs folk music

2006-04-06 Thread 1-11
The Spiritual Life / Ibadan Remix of  Central Reservation is an absolutely 
beautiful record.


Gorgeous.


- Original Message - 
From: "Jari Tolkkinen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Dan Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: (313) techno/house vs folk music



On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Dan Bean wrote:

Avoid Beth Orton at all costs would be my advice. It's bland, insipid 
coffee table snoozerama!


The only good thing she's done that I've heard is Spill - Don't Wanna 
Know 'Bout Evil


How about this and specially the A-side?

http://www.discogs.com/release/16039

--
Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net
--





RE: (313) techno/house vs folk music

2006-04-06 Thread Dan Bean
Haven't heard those remixes.


RE: (313) techno/house vs folk music

2006-04-06 Thread Jari Tolkkinen

On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Dan Bean wrote:


Avoid Beth Orton at all costs would be my advice. It's bland, insipid coffee 
table snoozerama!

The only good thing she's done that I've heard is Spill - Don't Wanna Know 
'Bout Evil


How about this and specially the A-side?

http://www.discogs.com/release/16039

--
Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net
--



RE: (313) techno/house vs folk music

2006-04-06 Thread Dan Bean
Avoid Beth Orton at all costs would be my advice. It's bland, insipid coffee 
table snoozerama!

The only good thing she's done that I've heard is Spill - Don't Wanna Know 
'Bout Evil

Plenty of good electronic folk out there with out recourse to her.

e.g.

Greg Davis
Animal Collective
Tuung


RE: (313) techno/house vs folk music

2006-04-06 Thread Dan Bean
Avoid Beth Orton at all costs would be my advice. It's bland, insipid coffee 
table snoozerama!

The only good thing she's done that I've heard is Spill - Don't Wanna Know 
'Bout Evil

Plenty of good electronic folk out there with out recourse to her.

e.g.

Greg Davis
Animal Collective
Tuung


RE: (313) techno/house vs folk music

2006-04-06 Thread Robert Taylor
Orton's best known (aside from her solo work) for her collaborations
with the Chemical Brothers. William Orbit too.

-Original Message-
From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 April 2006 22:19
To: Stoddard,Kamal
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) techno/house vs folk music

>So no one with any kind of anything on the folk/electro thing? 
>Everybody as unfamiliar as me with beth orton's music then I take it? 
>Very well then...

i have heard her name but im unfamiliar i think. dunno much about folk
electro either, is cornelius in that area? my old neighbours used to
play it for me and some of it i liked pretty good...i think there's a
lot out there but most of it is tied a bit too much to indie rock
hipster angst for me..actually there's a lot of it in my town probably.

i'm soon to dive into a similar area tho, sampling my dad's guitar
playing (folk blues) and trying to fit it into some raw r&b/house kinda
stuff...hopefully to cap off with vocals from an established female
singer who used to do stuff on naked music (and lenny kravitz ha!)...if
it comes to anything remains to be seen...

when i think of folk/acoustic guitar and electronic music tho, i always
think of that arovane album uhhh...i forget the name but it's loaded
with heavily processed acoustic guitar (no vox tho), and it's
beautiful...but not so much a folk music/electronic music hybrid as just
arovane style using acoustic guitar, but man



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(313) traxx on east village radio

2006-04-06 Thread J.T.
traxx was on my friend's show on nyc's east village radio monday...and played 
records for about 2 hrs...

http://eastvillageradio.com/auto-archives/Speculator/Speculator-04.03.06.mp3

SPECULATOR fools around for a while:
propagandap-machinery   
luv you madly orchestrahippo hop   
lindstrom and prins thomasmighty girl   
bob mcgilpinsuperstar   
orgue electroniqueon a string   
electronomebro   
din a testbildsatisfactory   
tangerine dreammojave plan   
perrey - kingsleygirl from venus   
sowetokatanga country   
sparksbeat the clock   
billy moorego dance (instrumental)   

TRAXX begins to play records   (~45 mins in)
lcd soundsystemlive at WMC the pawn shop   
808 statecosa cosa   
unreleased   
Chicago Shags   
unreleased   
808 stateautomatic   
unreleased   
salamandosmagic land   
pleasure zonei can't understand   
dirty criminals[acidbox]   
legowelt, sendex, & traxxstranger in the strangest of lands
chicago shaggs   
unreleased   
marcus mixxunreleased..Journey   
808 statemassgerama   
ron's house   
808 statec.i.s.   
unreleased   
unreleased   
dirty criminals   
unreleased   
unreleased   

TRAXX continues playing for another ~30 minutes on the next show too:
http://eastvillageradio.com/archives/9.27.04-Mark.mp3

unreleased  
chicago shaggs  
jeff mills  7"  
james cottonspectral 36 
dirty criminals 
Larry Heard Psychotic Fantasy   
Chicago Shags   
unreleased  

add ".m3u" to the links to stream (i think?)


Re: (313) minimal michael jackson bad remix

2006-04-06 Thread dave cronin
http://www.discogs.com/release/321370

--- Carlos de Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> btw: does anyone have the link to that record on
> discogs? been looking 
> for it, too.



Re: (313) puntang / versatile

2006-04-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 4/5/06, Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> funsters
>
> is the new pressing of puntang the same version as the one that was on
> the dj mag (?) cassette i.e. without the noodly synths at the beginning?

according to someone on a message board im on, version one on the 12"
is the same as the cassette and the bootleg of it that came out last
year. version 2 is also different from the one that appears on the
electric institute LP on new religion.

tom


Re: (313) what's in the bag

2006-04-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 4/5/06, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> that tom project is the "mystery track" i've been searching for for these
> last couple months
>
> such a sick track.

it sure is.

i cant find my CDs since i moved, does anyone know if this TOM project
joint is the same one from the Sound Sampler CD or is it different? i
remember that one being hot, too. there's also a malik pittman 101
acid jam kinda similar in sound to "Renaissance" on that CD iirc

tom


(313) puntang / versatile

2006-04-06 Thread Philip


funsters

is the new pressing of puntang the same version as the one that was on 
the dj mag (?) cassette i.e. without the noodly synths at the beginning?


also don't sleep on the versatile 'hot shots' comp. very cool stuff. so 
nice to hear a whole bunch of funky new shiz. all quality.


philski