(313) keepin it hyperreal
badass show this memorial day http://www.fromthegut.org/massivesupport/ new style 313 and friends.. also announcein Void Tactical Media 001 and Massive Support 001 not to be missed for the future of new sounds... m.
RE: (313) final post from me
Tom, the music you play is awesome man...just stay off the complimentary meth eh? -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) final post from me to anyone who thinks someone should be allowed to talk about my son because i am rude on an emailing list, please, come up to me in person and tell me that. i wont be hard to find at the festival, i work at 720 Records in pittsburgh every saturday, if you need to know my addess so you can come to my house and tell me, email me or contact me through my blog and i will get back to you with that information. for those too p*ssy or lazy to do any of the above, go f*ck yourselves. i'm out. tom No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1398 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 2:31 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1398 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 2:31 PM
Re: (313) Cooking channel - Detroit Edition
I can't say anything for Detroit, because I never ate at a coney island place there...But I used to frequent Angelo's in Flint, and my Dad worked there when he was in high school back in the mid 60's. The ultimate 3 am food was the Coney Dogs and Fries and Gravy. The coney sauce was made of ground beef hearts, which I was always told was unique for coney sauce. Some places I know use ground up hot dogs, and super fatty scraps of everything else. The dogs were always Vienna style dogs...which are my favorite. I have never eaten on the real Coney Island, but I am assuming it is completely different than the interpretation we had in Flint. Funnny...Wikipedia says the type of hot dog used was developed in Michigan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coney_Island_hot_dog More reading and you find that Coney Island NY isn't really responsible for the style of hot dog, the type of restaurant, or the ingredients. It is just a name... --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never understood how a coney island became a Detroit thing since Coney Island is in NYC what's the connection? MEK Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/25/2008 04:45:41 PM: nytimes just had an article about how coney island is the best dog the author had. i thought they were absolutely awful and the chilly sent shivers down my intestines. On 4/25/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any Detroit dishes? I know the UP has their pasties. Yum! MEK John Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/25/2008 04:22:11 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
You don't need to be on drugs to appreciate psytrance, though the music
may click more if you've experienced the drugs and can relate to the
headspace the music comes from. Same is probably true of any musical
form that is closely linked to certain drugs (dub and pot, gabber and
speed, etc)
Personally, I loved psychedelic trance when it was goa and the music was
coming from an LSD and mushrooms headspace. As it morphed into
psytrance, the whole feel of the music changed and lost much of what
first caught my interest. Suomisaundi is really the only style in that
scene that still inspires me with its musical abandon and sense of humor.
Dubstep seems to have gotten as staid and singular as psytrance did. I
loved the whole 2Step sound and like the early dubstep that still showed
its perky 2Step roots, but now much of the dubstep I've heard is a
dreary sludgefest and all too similar sounding. This style of music
could be so much more fun than most of it is.
Its like a macho-man mentality crept in and got rid of all the bouncy
and perky girlie aspects of 2Step to focus on being harder, darker and
skankier than the next guy.
I can't really think of that same mindset showing up in Detroit techno.
Perhaps my perspective is limited, but even when it is very hard, dark
and minimal I don't get the same macho boys club feeling from Detroit
techno. When I lived in Ann Arbor and clubbed in Detroit, I didn't get
that sense overall from the music I heard.
Is it just me, or has the Detroit techno scene managed to sidestep the
macho boys club musical mentality that seems to eventually plague most
other scenes?
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Frank Glazer wrote:
wha???
as a former psytrance dj who can still appreciate it to some extent
(shutup tom;) i fail to see any comparison at all between the two,
except perhaps that you really need to be on massive quantities of
drugs to get either one.
i hate dubstep though. i have a soft nostalgic spot in my heart for
psytrance, but god damn is it way too fast for me now, and it has
gotten much worse than it used to be, in general.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:59 PM, J.C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's the new Psytrance, remember.
Even with that as the case though, there have been SOME tracks that have
moved me. MOST though. ;)
On 23 April 2008, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end
how much people are on its jock.
tom
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Re: (313) kdj ny tonight
S many people showed up it was insane and packed body to body. I've never seen a line outside APT before. Personally I thought his set was just OK, and I can't quite explain it, just wasn't feeling it. He was much better at the Shelter months back. Pics and a few vid clips to follow soon. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'll be there. i heard he's been playing records. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone going tonight. anyone seen him this year. whats he been playing. -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
RE: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
UR? ;-) -Original Message- From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2008 16:16 Is it just me, or has the Detroit techno scene managed to sidestep the macho boys club musical mentality that seems to eventually plague most other scenes?
Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
Unfortunately, hard and edgy seems seems to be the requirement for
dubstep now.
However, I would recommend Benga's new album on Tempa, which is not
stuck in the aforementioned rut! He actually changes up the styles,
rhythms and moods. The album is really fun to listen and dance to and it
veers close enough to 2Step
I just picked up the Caspa and Rusko mix (Fabriclive37) and it is
enjoyable, as long as I don't scrutinize the tracks too much. Good to
dance to, not necessarily to sit and listen to. In some ways it has
that raw, early rave feel, where the squeeches and squelches manage to
work in a mix, but the tracks themselves probably wouldn't stand up if
you had to listen to them in their entirety.
I would consider Burial dubstep. His first album was like 2Step for
Goths. His second album was like dubstep for haunted ravers. He's soft
and hard and edgy and turgid and moist and chill and so much more...
I too have been on dubstep's jock (to quote Tom) somewhat lately, in
spite of myself.
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Nik Stoltzman wrote:
Silly me!
So what defines dubstep? Hard and edgy? Firm and moist? Turgid?
Burial isn't really dubstep - it's too wet and soft
Rob Taylor
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-Original Message-
From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 April 2008 16:19
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back?
Wouldn't people call that dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think.
When it comes to 'dubstep' I do not like it more or less than any other
music - I just like good music. When you say you don't like dubstep, do
you have a particular sound or artist in mind? Or do you literally not
think much of a whole tranche of music much of which you won't have
heard? ;)
Personally, I can't get enough of Elemental 3D - Blob at the moment.
Love it.
N
i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end
how much people are on its jock.
tom
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Mann, Ravinder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on Hessle
Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . .
http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3
1. likhan - uwill
2. pinch - 136 trek
3. likhan - terre
4. pangaea - nest
5. untold - test signal
6. appleblim peverelist - circling 7. scuba - outmost 8.
peverelist - the grind 9. scuba - inmost 10. scuba - beta 11.
peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) 12. 2562 - circulate
13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk
15. 2562 - kameleon 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) 17.
2562 - channel two 18. ramadanman - carla 19. kode 9 vs. badawi -
den of drumz 20. headhunter - locus lotus
Rav
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Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
Oh PLEASE. I'd hardly call UR a macho boys club relative to, say, techstep. The UR guys are all about collaboration and community, not competition and one-upsmanship. If you think UR is a boys club you either don't understand what darnistle was getting at, or you REALLY don't understand UR. On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UR? ;-) -Original Message- From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2008 16:16 Is it just me, or has the Detroit techno scene managed to sidestep the macho boys club musical mentality that seems to eventually plague most other scenes? -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) final post from me
Your bickering with Kooky Scientist and /0 is funny. I think you all
feed off each other.
I feel the love between you three. Why else would you all be so quick
to slag each other?
Keep it coming, but please do take a chill pill!
{}0+|
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
to anyone who thinks someone should be allowed to talk about my son
because i am rude on an emailing list, please, come up to me in person
and tell me that. i wont be hard to find at the festival, i work at
720 Records in pittsburgh every saturday, if you need to know my
addess so you can come to my house and tell me, email me or contact me
through my blog and i will get back to you with that information.
for those too p*ssy or lazy to do any of the above, go f*ck yourselves.
i'm out.
tom
RE: (313) Discogs marketplace disorganization
Talking of Discogs and searches, I've used a search now for some time that
Guy Thackeray tipped me off about (ta) after I asked on here ('cos I was too
stupid to read the how to search bit in their help); searching for a track
by entering
track:part of track title you are looking for
this was a super valuable tool for me. Pity it seems to have stopped
working then? Or is it just me doing something stupid? (this time I have
read the help).
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Michael.Elliot-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 April 2008 01:30
yes, but at least the extra bits (mix CDs and such) are related in some
way
to the artist
you're not going to get unrelated Derrick Emerson records when looking
up
all the Derrick May stuff for sale
if you look up the label Chicago acid house label Underground
and then check all the records supposedly for sale you'll notice that
there's a ton of completely unrelated labels are thrown into the mix
you get:
Underground Resistance
Urban Underground UK
Underground Construction
Underground Quality
Underground, Inc.
Glasgow Underground
etc.
and you can't use the word Underground as a filter because it won't
filter out any of these
there's no way to separate the wheat from the chaff
MEK
Jeffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/24/2008
06:04:28
PM:
Not only that...but if you want to look at releases by
an artist, you will also get all the MIX CDs and
compilations his or her tracks have appeared on. It
is super annoying. I really don't look for comps...
The Marketplace certainly could use some changes. But
all in all, it is pretty good. Much better than eBay.
The most annoying thing for me is the fact that
hardly any of the new releases that I want are for
sale in the US. Certainly that is not Discogs fault.
Carry on
Jeff
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has it always been configured this way...?
I went to look at a particular record label
From the main entry of the entire discography I went
to see what records of
that label were for sale
I get a list of records containing not only that
label but *every* label
that contains the name of the label I'm interested
in
I'm not doing a keyword search (but maybe discogs
is?) - I'm jumping from
the specific label to the marketplace and I only
want to see the label I'm
interested in
for example:
go to the Cheap label - and click under the shopping
area to see what Cheap
label records are available
you'll get the following labels *in addition to* the
one you only want to
look at
Cheap Knob Gags
Cheap Thrills
Cheap Date Records
Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
You really don't understand a ;). It's sarcasm. Peace, Alex - Original Message From: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:22:45 PM Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread Oh PLEASE. I'd hardly call UR a macho boys club relative to, say, techstep. The UR guys are all about collaboration and community, not competition and one-upsmanship. If you think UR is a boys club you either don't understand what darnistle was getting at, or you REALLY don't understand UR. On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UR? ;-) -Original Message- From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2008 16:16 Is it just me, or has the Detroit techno scene managed to sidestep the macho boys club musical mentality that seems to eventually plague most other scenes? -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
Oh, this is nice!
Even Tom might like it...
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Mann, Ravinder wrote:
Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on Hessle
Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . .
http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3
1. likhan - uwill
2. pinch - 136 trek
3. likhan - terre
4. pangaea - nest
5. untold - test signal
6. appleblim peverelist - circling
7. scuba - outmost
8. peverelist - the grind
9. scuba - inmost
10. scuba - beta
11. peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix)
12. 2562 - circulate
13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison
14. a made up sound - sleepwalk
15. 2562 - kameleon
16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix)
17. 2562 - channel two
18. ramadanman - carla
19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz
20. headhunter - locus lotus
Rav
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Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
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Re: (313) final post from me
IDNAWTC
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:27 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your bickering with Kooky Scientist and /0 is funny. I think you all feed
off each other.
I feel the love between you three. Why else would you all be so quick to
slag each other?
Keep it coming, but please do take a chill pill!
{}0+|
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
to anyone who thinks someone should be allowed to talk about my son
because i am rude on an emailing list, please, come up to me in person
and tell me that. i wont be hard to find at the festival, i work at
720 Records in pittsburgh every saturday, if you need to know my
addess so you can come to my house and tell me, email me or contact me
through my blog and i will get back to you with that information.
for those too p*ssy or lazy to do any of the above, go f*ck yourselves.
i'm out.
tom
--
peace,
frank
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RE: (313) final post from me
Actually Frank the thing I REALLY don't understand is what this acronym stands for? From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2008 18:38 IDNAWTC On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:27 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your bickering with Kooky Scientist and /0 is funny. I think you all feed off each other. I feel the love between you three. Why else would you all be so quick to slag each other? Keep it coming, but please do take a chill pill!
Re: (313) final post from me
It should be noted that almost immediately after posting his last post, he really did unsub. I'm of two minds about this. On the one hand, Tom's confidence in his own taste did not admit much in the way of dissent, and he never shrank from a beef. On the other hand it seemed like anyone sensible didn't end up beefing, even if they disagreed with him, loudly. If that means I just called someone unsensible, well ... I don't want to get into a beef over it.
Re: (313) final post from me
i do not agree with this comment On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Frank the thing I REALLY don't understand is what this acronym stands for? From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2008 18:38 IDNAWTC On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:27 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your bickering with Kooky Scientist and /0 is funny. I think you all feed off each other. I feel the love between you three. Why else would you all be so quick to slag each other? Keep it coming, but please do take a chill pill! -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) final post from me
i do not even know what happened. i believe that on an online forum for adults, there is no room for public personal affront, but there is much room for disagreement. i am sad that tom left, even though i did not know him. that redshift guy was making a fuss, but less so, on the analogue hyperreal list too. On 4/26/08, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i do not agree with this comment On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Frank the thing I REALLY don't understand is what this acronym stands for? From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2008 18:38 IDNAWTC On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:27 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your bickering with Kooky Scientist and /0 is funny. I think you all feed off each other. I feel the love between you three. Why else would you all be so quick to slag each other? Keep it coming, but please do take a chill pill! -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
(313) Stack o' Wax Wild Kingdom
Last week's Wild Kingdom playlist is at http://www.kfjc.org/music/playlist.php?i=30077 . It was an all-CD affair. This week's set is about having to play the hand you're dealt. I have a huge stack of 12s in the living room, purchased in lots of 10-20 from an Ebay seller as a sort of pig-in-the-poke speculation. I grabbed a big handful of these and threw together a set. Labels employed include Trapez, User, New Religion, Head to Toe, Onitor, Kompakt, Ost Gut Ton, Ware, Jelly Jam (sort of snuck in near the end of the set), Ware, and Poker Flat. Next week I start a series of specials during my time slot as part of the fabulous KFJC Month of Mayhem, a tradition at the station since 1982. First up for me is a special called The Sounds of Machines Our Parents Used, a 3-hour special on bands and track named after synths, effects, patches, plug-ins, etc. For more details on this and other specials, check www.kfjc.org. The Wild Kingdom airs on KFJC-FM 89.7, Saturday night/Sunday Morning, 12A-3A (7A-10A GMT). The webcast is at www.kfjc.org (follow the links). Present and past Wild Kingdom playlists are also archived there. You can also check out archived playlists from my first KFJC show Just Desserts that aired on Fridays 10P-2A from 1992 through 1999. Archived playlists exist for that show starting from Fall 1995 to New Year's Eve 1999/2000. If you do tune in (especially via the web), please take a little time to let me know your locale. I'm also interested in promo music from all over and in promoting local (San Francisco Bay area) techno-type events. If you want to do some fairly serious promotion, contact the KFJC promotions department at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to arrange ticket giveaways and/or to send information for inclusion in our concert outlook. Thanks to those who have sent promo music so far. Regards, Richard Hester Mr. Goodwrench The Wild Kingdom SU 12A-3A KFJC-FM 89.7, Los Altos Hills, California
Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
Yes, i agree with you about dubstep. I would not say this in a list
that's not very dubstep friendly, and i've already said this, for
sure, in the dubstep forums. In the dubstep forums i stand up to
other genres, like techno. :-)
The this i would not say, but i got to, is: the same downpath that
drum n' bass traced, dubstep is tracing right now. Producers with no
sensibility or no feeling are taking their 15 minutes of fame with
angry wo-wo-wo basslines and agressive drum rolls. The macho thing is
gonna create a paralysis.
But well... in other way of looking at things, dubstep is not only
dubstep. Drum n' bass was not only drum n' bass. Jungle was not only
jungle. You got to see this things all together as the urban music
from the uk. As a mutanting thing that keeps revolving. And all of
these styles, such as dubstep, they are not functionally made based
on drugs or drugs headspace. Drugs are all around, yes. But dubstep,
when it was born, and drum n' bass, when it was born, were much more
about pavement, the city, the boroughs, the crew, it's urban music.
They were connected directly to the beat shapped by and for the
kids, the expression of a moment in urban culture and its musical
pulse. I don't know how things are moving right now – (recently,
there are was a big night with all dubstep main producers at ministry
of sound, in london...) – but there was no strobe light in dubstep
nights. No clubism, no search for escapim, as you can find in the
majority of trance related music and trance club scene.
What i see on the bright side is that the best contributions of
jungle, drum n' bass, grime, dubstep, they produce the seeds for the
uk urban music to show his freshness from time to time. I like to
look at the timeline and see how things evolved since first raves
untill now.
Kw
On 26/04/2008, at 12:15, darnistle wrote:
You don't need to be on drugs to appreciate psytrance, though the
music may click more if you've experienced the drugs and can
relate to the headspace the music comes from. Same is probably
true of any musical form that is closely linked to certain drugs
(dub and pot, gabber and speed, etc)
Personally, I loved psychedelic trance when it was goa and the
music was coming from an LSD and mushrooms headspace. As it
morphed into psytrance, the whole feel of the music changed and
lost much of what first caught my interest. Suomisaundi is really
the only style in that scene that still inspires me with its
musical abandon and sense of humor.
Dubstep seems to have gotten as staid and singular as psytrance
did. I loved the whole 2Step sound and like the early dubstep that
still showed its perky 2Step roots, but now much of the dubstep
I've heard is a dreary sludgefest and all too similar sounding.
This style of music could be so much more fun than most of it is.
Its like a macho-man mentality crept in and got rid of all the
bouncy and perky girlie aspects of 2Step to focus on being
harder, darker and skankier than the next guy.
I can't really think of that same mindset showing up in Detroit
techno. Perhaps my perspective is limited, but even when it is
very hard, dark and minimal I don't get the same macho boys club
feeling from Detroit techno. When I lived in Ann Arbor and clubbed
in Detroit, I didn't get that sense overall from the music I heard.
Is it just me, or has the Detroit techno scene managed to sidestep
the macho boys club musical mentality that seems to eventually
plague most other scenes?
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Frank Glazer wrote:
wha???
as a former psytrance dj who can still appreciate it to some extent
(shutup tom;) i fail to see any comparison at all between the two,
except perhaps that you really need to be on massive quantities of
drugs to get either one.
i hate dubstep though. i have a soft nostalgic spot in my heart for
psytrance, but god damn is it way too fast for me now, and it has
gotten much worse than it used to be, in general.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:59 PM, J.C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It's the new Psytrance, remember.
Even with that as the case though, there have been SOME tracks
that have
moved me. MOST though. ;)
On 23 April 2008, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end
how much people are on its jock.
tom
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Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
Caspa and Rusko sit among the starters of this wave of angry bass and
of being hard and edgy, for the sake of itself, that i don't like
much. For me, they represent what Bad Company represented to drum n'
bass.
Although Burial did not walk on the footsteps of dubstep stylings,
his first EP, South London Bouroughs, was fundamental to shape the
dubstep to come, 3 years ago.
Kw
On 26/04/2008, at 12:54, darnistle wrote:
Unfortunately, hard and edgy seems seems to be the requirement
for dubstep now.
However, I would recommend Benga's new album on Tempa, which is not
stuck in the aforementioned rut! He actually changes up the styles,
rhythms and moods. The album is really fun to listen and dance to
and it veers close enough to 2Step
I just picked up the Caspa and Rusko mix (Fabriclive37) and it is
enjoyable, as long as I don't scrutinize the tracks too much. Good
to dance to, not necessarily to sit and listen to. In some ways it
has that raw, early rave feel, where the squeeches and squelches
manage to work in a mix, but the tracks themselves probably
wouldn't stand up if you had to listen to them in their entirety.
I would consider Burial dubstep. His first album was like 2Step
for Goths. His second album was like dubstep for haunted ravers.
He's soft and hard and edgy and turgid and moist and chill and so
much more...
I too have been on dubstep's jock (to quote Tom) somewhat lately,
in spite of myself.
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Nik Stoltzman wrote:
Silly me!
So what defines dubstep? Hard and edgy? Firm and moist? Turgid?
Burial isn't really dubstep - it's too wet and soft
Rob Taylor
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-Original Message-
From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 April 2008 16:19
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back?
Wouldn't people call that dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think.
When it comes to 'dubstep' I do not like it more or less than any
other
music - I just like good music. When you say you don't like
dubstep, do
you have a particular sound or artist in mind? Or do you
literally not
think much of a whole tranche of music much of which you won't have
heard? ;)
Personally, I can't get enough of Elemental 3D - Blob at the
moment.
Love it.
N
i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end
how much people are on its jock.
tom
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Mann, Ravinder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aye, some dubstep seems to be going 4/4. See also releases on
Hessle
Audio. Here's a mix I've been enjoying recently . .
http://www.djdowee.com/dreamvol1/dowee-dreammix-march2008.mp3
1. likhan - uwill
2. pinch - 136 trek
3. likhan - terre
4. pangaea - nest
5. untold - test signal
6. appleblim peverelist - circling 7. scuba - outmost 8.
peverelist - the grind 9. scuba - inmost 10. scuba - beta 11.
peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix) 12. 2562 -
circulate
13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison 14. a made up sound - sleepwalk
15. 2562 - kameleon 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) 17.
2562 - channel two 18. ramadanman - carla 19. kode 9 vs.
badawi -
den of drumz 20. headhunter - locus lotus
Rav
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Sent: 23 April 2008 15:00
To: [313]
Cc: Kowalsky
Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread
dave huismans ole!
Kowalsky schreef:
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995
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Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts
well then, let's see some of there great artists that are out there
that nobody knows about. i will tell you exactly why they are
terrible.
LOL!!
This is too rich for words! :))
All the more reason why it was silly for him to unsubscribe!
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Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cos there couldn't possibly be any good music out there that you're not
aware of
well then, let's see some of there great artists that are out there
that nobody knows about. i will tell you exactly why they are
terrible. i always check out new things, i may not know every single
good artist but i try my best to find them, and i come up with next to
nothing when listening to new music.
tom
Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts
OK this is the 83rd message in this thread, according to GMail.
I don't really want to comment any further on L'Affaire du Tomme,
except to say that the one thing the list will likely be without him
is quiet.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 7:35 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well then, let's see some of there great artists that are out there
that nobody knows about. i will tell you exactly why they are
terrible.
LOL!!
This is too rich for words! :))
All the more reason why it was silly for him to unsubscribe!
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Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Cos there couldn't possibly be any good music out there that you're not
aware of
well then, let's see some of there great artists that are out there
that nobody knows about. i will tell you exactly why they are
terrible. i always check out new things, i may not know every single
good artist but i try my best to find them, and i come up with next to
nothing when listening to new music.
tom
Re: (313) 4 more Movement acts
and interestingly, nobody ever bothered to change the subject to
something more appropriate. we suck.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:42 PM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK this is the 83rd message in this thread, according to GMail.
I don't really want to comment any further on L'Affaire du Tomme,
except to say that the one thing the list will likely be without him
is quiet.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 7:35 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well then, let's see some of there great artists that are out there
that nobody knows about. i will tell you exactly why they are
terrible.
LOL!!
This is too rich for words! :))
All the more reason why it was silly for him to unsubscribe!
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Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Cos there couldn't possibly be any good music out there that you're not
aware of
well then, let's see some of there great artists that are out there
that nobody knows about. i will tell you exactly why they are
terrible. i always check out new things, i may not know every single
good artist but i try my best to find them, and i come up with next to
nothing when listening to new music.
tom
--
peace,
frank
dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
(313) the detroit-related music I've been enjoying recently is...
most of the tracks here: http://www.adultswim.com/williams/music/ghostlyswim/index.html Andrew -- Andrew Duke--sound design/recording/composition/production courses: http://andrew-duke.com/course.html Andrew Duke--Chain Reaction downloadable sound FX samplepack: http://www.audiobase.com/product/SACR Andrew Duke--Consumer vs. User album: http://www.phthalo.com/cat.php?cat=phth40 Andrew Duke--columns/features/commentaries/more: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/read.html http://linkedin.com/in/AndrewDukeCognitionAudioworks http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew_Duke/852160229 http://myspace.com/AndrewDuke http://myspace.com/CognitionAudioworks
