Re: (313) 2of2 re: sharing music vs. DJ ego re: Hypersampling

2008-05-06 Thread Martin Dust


On 5 May 2008, at 04:21, kent williams wrote:


I'll say this about Mr. Hawtin -- he's no dummy.  He talks a lot about
the concepts he's trying to implement in his music.  I've been left
cold by a lot of his output, and my suspicion is that when he's alone
in the studio, the concepts rule over the emotion.


I don't feel the same way about his output as you Kent but I'm also  
not sure I'd agree with the concept over emotion idea either, it just  
seems to determislistic to suggest that this is the case.



It's always difficult to find emotion when you're working with
machines in a room by yourself.  A techno producer is like an old
school photographer -- you make the music, but don't see how it
develops until you see how a dance floor reacts.


This is just wrong :) I can't and don't believe you think the above is  
actually true, do you?


m


(313) Magda's Recordbag Stolen at CENTRUM, Erfurt, Germany

2008-05-06 Thread Martin Dust

Passing this on...

On Saturday night, my laptop bag was stolen from Centrum Club in  
Erfurt. We as djs and artists dedicate our entire energy and spirit to  
what we do. We work very hard to present music in our own special way.  
There is no better feeling than knowing that you and the people on the  
dancefloor are completely connected and knowing that we can share that  
feeling of excitement from hearing a new special track. In the end, we  
are not there to play for ourselves but for the people who support us  
and our music. I am deeply sad and disappointed to know that something  
like this could happen, especially in the dj booth, the one place  
where things should be safe. I feel like I have been stripped of the  
one thing that is closest to my heart. We are all in this together and  
we must respect each other, otherwise there is no point.


If you have any information about my missing items please contact [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

Magda


Re: (313) Magda's Recordbag Stolen at CENTRUM, Erfurt, Germany

2008-05-06 Thread KiDD*e
After the needles, the playing record, the harddrive, the flycase, the
laptop bag, one day they will kidnap the DJ ...
-K*

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Subject: (313) Magda's Recordbag Stolen at CENTRUM, Erfurt, Germany


 Passing this on...

 On Saturday night, my laptop bag was stolen from Centrum Club in
 Erfurt. We as djs and artists dedicate our entire energy and spirit to
 what we do. We work very hard to present music in our own special way.
 There is no better feeling than knowing that you and the people on the
 dancefloor are completely connected and knowing that we can share that
 feeling of excitement from hearing a new special track. In the end, we
 are not there to play for ourselves but for the people who support us
 and our music. I am deeply sad and disappointed to know that something
 like this could happen, especially in the dj booth, the one place
 where things should be safe. I feel like I have been stripped of the
 one thing that is closest to my heart. We are all in this together and
 we must respect each other, otherwise there is no point.

 If you have any information about my missing items please contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Magda




RE: (313) Magda's Recordbag Stolen at CENTRUM, Erfurt, Germany

2008-05-06 Thread Mislav

That could be coolJeff Mills - Taliban Captivity Mix - Kabul Records
Darker than Dark Mr. Mills' set full of sci-fi coded signals hoping to be
located by newly installed radar systems somewhere in europe. Full
tracklisting to be shortly posted on Al-Yazeera web address. To add more
Drama to this, FYI his first track (brown)Sugar Is Sweeter is one from the
appropriately renamed EP's: Our Man in Kabul EP  needless to mention
that his captivators simply love his The Extremist EP

Ok. Back to work now ;-))


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Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:43 PM
To: Three-One-Three
Subject: Re: (313) Magda's Recordbag Stolen at CENTRUM, Erfurt, Germany

After the needles, the playing record, the harddrive, the flycase, the
laptop bag, one day they will kidnap the DJ ...
-K*

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From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [313] List 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:09 AM
Subject: (313) Magda's Recordbag Stolen at CENTRUM, Erfurt, Germany


 Passing this on...

 On Saturday night, my laptop bag was stolen from Centrum Club in
 Erfurt. We as djs and artists dedicate our entire energy and spirit to
 what we do. We work very hard to present music in our own special way.
 There is no better feeling than knowing that you and the people on the
 dancefloor are completely connected and knowing that we can share that
 feeling of excitement from hearing a new special track. In the end, we
 are not there to play for ourselves but for the people who support us
 and our music. I am deeply sad and disappointed to know that something
 like this could happen, especially in the dj booth, the one place
 where things should be safe. I feel like I have been stripped of the
 one thing that is closest to my heart. We are all in this together and
 we must respect each other, otherwise there is no point.

 If you have any information about my missing items please contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Magda








(313) DJ Stingray @ Bleep43

2008-05-06 Thread Toby Frith

http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show94.mp3

An hour of DJ Stingray from our most recent party.



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Re: (313) DJ Stingray @ Bleep43

2008-05-06 Thread Placid

Nice one...  He rocked that room...

Toby Frith wrote:

http://www.bleep43recordings.com/mixes/Show94.mp3

An hour of DJ Stingray from our most recent party.



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Re: (313) 2of2 re: sharing music vs. DJ ego re: Hypersampling

2008-05-06 Thread kent williams
Well,  I don't know that what I wrote is categorically,
deterministically true.  It felt plausible when I wrote it.

I think one knows what moves one's own self when working on a track,
but it's not easy to know how other people react to what you're doing.
 It's also easy to be distracted by audio-geekery and too many choices
available.

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 5 May 2008, at 04:21, kent williams wrote:


  I'll say this about Mr. Hawtin -- he's no dummy.  He talks a lot about
  the concepts he's trying to implement in his music.  I've been left
  cold by a lot of his output, and my suspicion is that when he's alone
  in the studio, the concepts rule over the emotion.
 

  I don't feel the same way about his output as you Kent but I'm also not
 sure I'd agree with the concept over emotion idea either, it just seems to
 determislistic to suggest that this is the case.


  It's always difficult to find emotion when you're working with
  machines in a room by yourself.  A techno producer is like an old
  school photographer -- you make the music, but don't see how it
  develops until you see how a dance floor reacts.
 

  This is just wrong :) I can't and don't believe you think the above is
 actually true, do you?



(313) John Foxx Influence On 313

2008-05-06 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Has anyone seen John Foxx's recent live shows? He must be a  
significant influence on techno and electro but most of my geeky  
buddies don't know his work at all! I think Gary Numan gets more  
props. That actually would have been a good act to bill for the  
festival, but admittedly he's obscure for a wider audience. Metamatic  
was re-released last year I believe.





RE: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313

2008-05-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He was certainly a guy who caught my attention at the time and I went on liking 
for time afterward.  I liked The Garden LP best I
think.  When I first saw Gary Newman on Top Of The Pops I thought hey, he 
looks like he's trying to rip off that other guy from a
few weeks back's style  ;-)


 From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 May 2008 15:57
 
 Has anyone seen John Foxx's recent live shows? He must be a
 significant influence on techno and electro but most of my geeky
 buddies don't know his work at all! I think Gary Numan gets more
 props. That actually would have been a good act to bill for the
 festival, but admittedly he's obscure for a wider audience. Metamatic
 was re-released last year I believe. 




RE: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313

2008-05-06 Thread Toby Frith

His LP from last year was very good. I personally find his work with Harold 
Budd to be his best.



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He was certainly a guy who caught my attention at the time and I went on liking 
for time afterward.  I liked The Garden LP best I
think.  When I first saw Gary Newman on Top Of The Pops I thought hey, he 
looks like he's trying to rip off that other guy from a
few weeks back's style  ;-)


 From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 May 2008 15:57
 
 Has anyone seen John Foxx's recent live shows? He must be a
 significant influence on techno and electro but most of my geeky
 buddies don't know his work at all! I think Gary Numan gets more
 props. That actually would have been a good act to bill for the
 festival, but admittedly he's obscure for a wider audience. Metamatic
 was re-released last year I believe. 




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RE: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313

2008-05-06 Thread Robert Taylor
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He was certainly a guy who caught my attention at the time and I went on
liking for time afterward.  I liked The Garden LP best I think.  When I
first saw Gary Newman on Top Of The Pops I thought hey, he looks like
he's trying to rip off that other guy from a few weeks back's style
;-)


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 Sent: 06 May 2008 15:57
 
 Has anyone seen John Foxx's recent live shows? He must be a 
 significant influence on techno and electro but most of my geeky 
 buddies don't know his work at all! I think Gary Numan gets more 
 props. That actually would have been a good act to bill for the 
 festival, but admittedly he's obscure for a wider audience. Metamatic 
 was re-released last year I believe.


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(313) blogs

2008-05-06 Thread paul mouser
Hi theres plenty of indie electro blogs out there, but does anyone
know of any really good electronic and old school hip hip/breaks ones?

Cheers
Paul


Re: (313) blogs

2008-05-06 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Infinite State Machine - infinitestatemachine.com
Little White Earbuds - littlewhiteearbuds.com
Mnml Ssgs - mnmlssg.blogspots.com
Test Industries - testindustries.com


On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:10 PM, paul mouser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi theres plenty of indie electro blogs out there, but does anyone
  know of any really good electronic and old school hip hip/breaks ones?

  Cheers
  Paul




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RE: (313) blogs

2008-05-06 Thread Mann, Ravinder
Hip Hip amongst other things. Things he likes get a Mos Def : )

http://poisonousparagraphs.blogspot.com/

ISM below

Rav.




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Infinite State Machine - infinitestatemachine.com
Little White Earbuds - littlewhiteearbuds.com
Mnml Ssgs - mnmlssg.blogspots.com
Test Industries - testindustries.com


On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:10 PM, paul mouser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hi theres plenty of indie electro blogs out there, but does anyone
  know of any really good electronic and old school hip hip/breaks
ones?

  Cheers
  Paul




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Re: (313) blogs

2008-05-06 Thread Carlos De Brito
i haven't checked www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/ for a while, but remember it 
being a good (old-school) hip-hop blog.

as for electronic music i'd add this ones:

http://anothernightonearth.blogspot.com/
http://www.20jazzfunkgreats.co.uk/wordpress/
http://www.lovefingers.org

c*

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 Infinite State Machine - infinitestatemachine.com
 Little White Earbuds - littlewhiteearbuds.com
 Mnml Ssgs - mnmlssg.blogspots.com
 Test Industries - testindustries.com
 
 
 On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:10 PM, paul mouser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hi theres plenty of indie electro blogs out there, but does anyone
   know of any really good electronic and old school hip hip/breaks ones?
 
   Cheers
   Paul



Re: (313) blogs

2008-05-06 Thread Thomas Ainslie
For breaky type stuff, and a little education on the tunes, I like Soul Sides.
http://www.soul-sides.com/

Great thread, I've been wondering what good electronic music blogs are
out there.


On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Carlos De Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i haven't checked www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/ for a while, but remember it 
 being a good (old-school) hip-hop blog.

 as for electronic music i'd add this ones:

 http://anothernightonearth.blogspot.com/
 http://www.20jazzfunkgreats.co.uk/wordpress/
 http://www.lovefingers.org

 c*

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  Infinite State Machine - infinitestatemachine.com
  Little White Earbuds - littlewhiteearbuds.com
  Mnml Ssgs - mnmlssg.blogspots.com
  Test Industries - testindustries.com
 
 
  On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:10 PM, paul mouser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   Hi theres plenty of indie electro blogs out there, but does anyone
know of any really good electronic and old school hip hip/breaks ones?
  
Cheers
Paul




(313) blogs

2008-05-06 Thread Frank Glazer
check the blog roll at http://www.infinitestatemachine.com

 and i talk about electronic music at mine as well...

 http://www.deejaycountzero.com/blog



 On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:10 PM, paul mouser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi theres plenty of indie electro blogs out there, but does anyone
   know of any really good electronic and old school hip hip/breaks ones?
 
   Cheers
   Paul
 



 peace,

frank

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(313) blogs list compiled thus far plus 4 more

2008-05-06 Thread Andrew Duke
Here's a compiled list thus far with Thomas, Carlos, Ravinder, and 
Matt's links, plus 4 more:
My daughter and I have been getting our groove on lately to Toronto's 
curbcrawlers
(mostly ravehouse, but has a healthy respect for 313 content, limited 
on here though it
might be), so I'll add that, plus another (mostly in French language), 
Tape, and
Philip Sherburne's (with the transcript of his Carl Craig Jukebox 
session right at the top):


http://thecurbcrawlers.com/blog/
http://www.alainfinkielkrautrock.com/
http://allsexistape.blogspot.com/
http://www.philipsherburne.com/
http://www.soul-sides.com/
http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/
http://anothernightonearth.blogspot.com/
http://www.20jazzfunkgreats.co.uk/wordpress/
http://www.lovefingers.org
http://infinitestatemachine.com
http://littlewhiteearbuds.com
http://testindustries.com

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(313) blog list compiled (corrected) plus 4 more

2008-05-06 Thread Andrew Duke
Here's a compiled list thus far with Thomas, Carlos, Ravinder, and 
Matt's links, plus 4 more

(and I butchered the link to the Test one, so that's why the re-send):
My daughter and I have been getting our groove on lately to Toronto's 
curbcrawlers
(mostly ravehouse, but has a healthy respect for 313 content, limited 
on here though it
might be), so I'll add that, plus another (mostly in French language), 
Tape, and
Philip Sherburne's (with the transcript of his Carl Craig Jukebox 
session right at the top):


http://thecurbcrawlers.com/blog/
http://www.alainfinkielkrautrock.com/
http://allsexistape.blogspot.com/
http://www.philipsherburne.com/
http://www.soul-sides.com/
http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/
http://anothernightonearth.blogspot.com/
http://www.20jazzfunkgreats.co.uk/wordpress/
http://www.lovefingers.org
http://infinitestatemachine.com
http://littlewhiteearbuds.com
http://testindustries.typepad.com/test/
Andrew

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Andrew Duke--Chain Reaction downloadable sound FX samplepack:
http://www.audiobase.com/product/SACR

Andrew Duke--Consumer vs. User album:
http://www.phthalo.com/cat.php?cat=phth40

Andrew Duke--columns/features/commentaries/more:
http://cognitionaudioworks.com/read.html

http://linkedin.com/in/AndrewDukeCognitionAudioworks
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew_Duke/852160229
http://myspace.com/AndrewDuke
http://myspace.com/CognitionAudioworks


Re: (313) Magda's Recordbag Stolen at CENTRUM, Erfurt, Germany

2008-05-06 Thread Benoît Pueyo
No offense to Mrs. Magda. I would have thrown myself out of a window if 
i were victim of such and idiot behaviour, specially in the dj booth, but :


at the very cheap prices of portable hard drives today, isnt it 
recommended to save your whole work every day on that device when your 
hobby, your job, your passion, your love, everything in your life is 
stored in a simple laptop? IMO easier and cheaper that having every 
vinyl (when youre a dj) and your hardware (when youre a producer) in 
double. Only have to keep it safe at the hotel while giggin'


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Re: (313) Magda's Recordbag Stolen at CENTRUM, Erfurt, Germany

2008-05-06 Thread james . hurlbut

Who needs records when you have the borg ... i mean, Contakt.

http://www.contakt-events.com/

Quoting Benoît Pueyo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


No offense to Mrs. Magda. I would have thrown myself out of a window if
i were victim of such and idiot behaviour, specially in the dj booth,
but :

at the very cheap prices of portable hard drives today, isnt it
recommended to save your whole work every day on that device when your
hobby, your job, your passion, your love, everything in your life is
stored in a simple laptop? IMO easier and cheaper that having every
vinyl (when youre a dj) and your hardware (when youre a producer) in
double. Only have to keep it safe at the hotel while giggin'

--
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New email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nouvel email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: (313) 2of2 re: sharing music vs. DJ ego re: Hypersampling

2008-05-06 Thread [mark ]
It's also easy to be distracted by audio-geekery and too many
choices available.

I think there is so much value in that one sentence, it bears
repeating ad infinitum.

The possibilities are so endless in 2008, that a number of undesirable
by-products has emerged...

Most significantly, much like the current state of Hollywood movies,
it's so easy to fall into the trap of getting wrapped up in to the
concept of technical brilliance and completely lose the entertainment
value in the process.

In Hollywood (well, LOTS of movies, really...no need to restrict it),
the goal is ticket sales. Butts in seats.
On television, it's faces in front of screens to watch advertising.

In years past, being adept at your craft brought people and the ticket
sales or faces in front of screens were the by-products. The tables
have turned, and it's the pure spectaclei.e. the concept, not
the execution, that brings viewership.

Anyone of my/our generation need only look at the last 3 Star Wars
movies to prove my point. It wasn't the acting and it CERTAINLY wasn't
the dialogue that made those films box office successes. If there were
any other name attached to them but George Lucas, those films would've
been laughed out of the theater, or worse. The dialogue was absolutely
ATTROCIOUS.

It was the concept that brought people (including myself) in.  The
spectacular effects. The story line (which was no surprise if you
haven't been living under a rock since 1977)...the end product, when
taken at face value, was fairly laughable.

This is  completely the problem I had with Hawtin's previous mix
cd's - they may have been interesting in theory, and clinically
perfect, but that's just it. They were clinical. Cold. Sterile. Devoid
of any sort of soul or funk.

Or entertainment value...For a supposedly  dance record, I wasn't in
any way motivated to even nod my head at the desk by anything I heard
on those recordings.

If those recordings had been made by me, or any other non-name, they
wouldn't register a blip on the scale. But because of who he is, and
his cache of previous successes, the lack of quality was given a pass
in the name of progress.

I think this was the feeling that a lot of people share when they
claim that Hawtin is a product of marketing more than substance.
The confusing thing is, he didn't start this way.

m


On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:27 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well,  I don't know that what I wrote is categorically,
  deterministically true.  It felt plausible when I wrote it.

  I think one knows what moves one's own self when working on a track,
  but it's not easy to know how other people react to what you're doing.
   It's also easy to be distracted by audio-geekery and too many choices
  available.



  On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
On 5 May 2008, at 04:21, kent williams wrote:
  
  
I'll say this about Mr. Hawtin -- he's no dummy.  He talks a lot about
the concepts he's trying to implement in his music.  I've been left
cold by a lot of his output, and my suspicion is that when he's alone
in the studio, the concepts rule over the emotion.
   
  
I don't feel the same way about his output as you Kent but I'm also not
   sure I'd agree with the concept over emotion idea either, it just seems to
   determislistic to suggest that this is the case.
  
  
It's always difficult to find emotion when you're working with
machines in a room by yourself.  A techno producer is like an old
school photographer -- you make the music, but don't see how it
develops until you see how a dance floor reacts.
   
  
This is just wrong :) I can't and don't believe you think the above is
   actually true, do you?
  




-- 
Play more things that make me dance around and less things that make
me sit and look miserable in a plastic chair - Brian Eno

Blind faith in bad leadership is not Patriotism.


(313) Adult. performance in the D this Friday

2008-05-06 Thread Andrew Duke

[selection taken from a just-received Adult. newsletter]

ADULT. will be premiering/performing this Friday night at the Detroit Institute 
of Arts. Come see their new 40 minute experimental-horror film entitled 
DECAMPMENT while they perform live the all new soundtrack. There are 2 
showings, one is at 7:00 and the other is at 8:30. This event is in conjunction 
with the first new ADULT. release in over a year, and the first new Ersatz 
Audio release in almost 4 years.

And now for some information about the new release.

The first installment of THE DECAMPMENT TRILOGY is now available for 
pre-orders. The official release/ship date will be on Tuesday, May 13th. Orders 
can now be placed through http://www.ersatzaudio.com

Andrew

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Re: (313) Magda's Recordbag Stolen at CENTRUM, Erfurt, Germany

2008-05-06 Thread Southern Outpost
If we can't be safe in the DJ booth, where can we be? What is this
world coming too?

TERROR!

;)

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:12 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Who needs records when you have the borg ... i mean, Contakt.

  http://www.contakt-events.com/



  Quoting Benoît Pueyo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


  No offense to Mrs. Magda. I would have thrown myself out of a window if
  i were victim of such and idiot behaviour, specially in the dj booth,
  but :
 
  at the very cheap prices of portable hard drives today, isnt it
  recommended to save your whole work every day on that device when your
  hobby, your job, your passion, your love, everything in your life is
  stored in a simple laptop? IMO easier and cheaper that having every
  vinyl (when youre a dj) and your hardware (when youre a producer) in
  double. Only have to keep it safe at the hotel while giggin'
 
  --
  Benoît.
  New email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Nouvel email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 







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Re: (313) Magda's Recordbag Stolen at CENTRUM, Erfurt, Germany

2008-05-06 Thread /0
what does saving your data have to do with how lame it is to steal someones 
data?


everywhere this is being talked about on the net, it seems about half the 
people miss the point that regardless of what you do with your stuff, people 
shouldn't steal, and that alone make it lame as hell


- Original Message - 
From: Benoît Pueyo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [313] List 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Magda's Recordbag Stolen at CENTRUM, Erfurt, Germany


No offense to Mrs. Magda. I would have thrown myself out of a window if i 
were victim of such and idiot behaviour, specially in the dj booth, but :


at the very cheap prices of portable hard drives today, isnt it 
recommended to save your whole work every day on that device when your 
hobby, your job, your passion, your love, everything in your life is 
stored in a simple laptop? IMO easier and cheaper that having every vinyl 
(when youre a dj) and your hardware (when youre a producer) in double. 
Only have to keep it safe at the hotel while giggin'


--
Benoît.
New email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nouvel email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: (313) blogs

2008-05-06 Thread Ronny Pries

Don't miss these ones:

http://amonsieurwillyworld.blogspot.com/
http://beatelectric.blogspot.com/
http://orgyinrhythm.blogspot.com/


Hi theres plenty of indie electro blogs out there, but does anyone
know of any really good electronic and old school hip hip/breaks ones?

Cheers
Paul





Re: (313) 2of2 re: sharing music vs. DJ ego re: Hypersampling

2008-05-06 Thread Michael Kuszynski
dimension intrusion remains in my personal experience thus far one of
the finest electronic albums of all time. among a personal top ten or
maybe even five, though discounting the state of hawtin since the past
five years.

On 5/6/08, [mark ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's also easy to be distracted by audio-geekery and too many
 choices available.

 I think there is so much value in that one sentence, it bears
 repeating ad infinitum.

 The possibilities are so endless in 2008, that a number of undesirable
 by-products has emerged...

 Most significantly, much like the current state of Hollywood movies,
 it's so easy to fall into the trap of getting wrapped up in to the
 concept of technical brilliance and completely lose the entertainment
 value in the process.

 In Hollywood (well, LOTS of movies, really...no need to restrict it),
 the goal is ticket sales. Butts in seats.
 On television, it's faces in front of screens to watch advertising.

 In years past, being adept at your craft brought people and the ticket
 sales or faces in front of screens were the by-products. The tables
 have turned, and it's the pure spectaclei.e. the concept, not
 the execution, that brings viewership.

 Anyone of my/our generation need only look at the last 3 Star Wars
 movies to prove my point. It wasn't the acting and it CERTAINLY wasn't
 the dialogue that made those films box office successes. If there were
 any other name attached to them but George Lucas, those films would've
 been laughed out of the theater, or worse. The dialogue was absolutely
 ATTROCIOUS.

 It was the concept that brought people (including myself) in.  The
 spectacular effects. The story line (which was no surprise if you
 haven't been living under a rock since 1977)...the end product, when
 taken at face value, was fairly laughable.

 This is  completely the problem I had with Hawtin's previous mix
 cd's - they may have been interesting in theory, and clinically
 perfect, but that's just it. They were clinical. Cold. Sterile. Devoid
 of any sort of soul or funk.

 Or entertainment value...For a supposedly  dance record, I wasn't in
 any way motivated to even nod my head at the desk by anything I heard
 on those recordings.

 If those recordings had been made by me, or any other non-name, they
 wouldn't register a blip on the scale. But because of who he is, and
 his cache of previous successes, the lack of quality was given a pass
 in the name of progress.

 I think this was the feeling that a lot of people share when they
 claim that Hawtin is a product of marketing more than substance.
 The confusing thing is, he didn't start this way.

 m


 On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:27 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Well,  I don't know that what I wrote is categorically,
  deterministically true.  It felt plausible when I wrote it.

  I think one knows what moves one's own self when working on a track,
  but it's not easy to know how other people react to what you're doing.
   It's also easy to be distracted by audio-geekery and too many choices
  available.



  On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
On 5 May 2008, at 04:21, kent williams wrote:
  
  
I'll say this about Mr. Hawtin -- he's no dummy.  He talks a lot
 about
the concepts he's trying to implement in his music.  I've been left
cold by a lot of his output, and my suspicion is that when he's alone
in the studio, the concepts rule over the emotion.
   
  
I don't feel the same way about his output as you Kent but I'm also
 not
   sure I'd agree with the concept over emotion idea either, it just seems
 to
   determislistic to suggest that this is the case.
  
  
It's always difficult to find emotion when you're working with
machines in a room by yourself.  A techno producer is like an old
school photographer -- you make the music, but don't see how it
develops until you see how a dance floor reacts.
   
  
This is just wrong :) I can't and don't believe you think the above is
   actually true, do you?
  




 --
 Play more things that make me dance around and less things that make
 me sit and look miserable in a plastic chair - Brian Eno

 Blind faith in bad leadership is not Patriotism.



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Re: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313

2008-05-06 Thread collin strange

i love that that john foxx record on ersatz audio.


Re: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313

2008-05-06 Thread Andrew Duke

collin strange wrote:

i love that that john foxx record on ersatz audio.

Huh?
Which one is that?
Andrew

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Re: (313) DEMF pre-party... have a feeling you'll like this one

2008-05-06 Thread David Armin-Parcells

cool space,but bad space for a party,
many smallish rooms, dividers in big rooms.good concept, bad in practice

see for yourself




UI Design wrote:

Wow, was it really that bad of a space?  Or  was it just the sound
crew not having enough sound?

Jodie

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 7:29 PM, David Armin-Parcells
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

reminds me of a party in the early to mid 90's at the science center.
 great idea
 lousy space for a party
 and I believe there were like 20 dj's there at the time including many of
the founding fathers
 count me out

 anyone else remember that party?

 David



 UI Design wrote:



Hey everyone,

Just got this news through about a wicked party at the Science Center
in Detroit...  have a feeling this party will be a sell-out...  Friday
May 23rd, 6pm-12am...

I heard all the techno founders will be there, Juan, Eddie, Derrick,
and Kevin, to accept awards from local, state, and national officials
with QA sessions from each, autograph signings, and live
performances  Also heard there will be a total of 17 DJs... all of
whom have seriously influenced the Detroit scene.

Just imagine...  techno music in the Science Museum's IMAX theater and
Planetarium...
The event coordinator CDN Communications has access to the entire
building except the 4th floor.

I heard tickets will be available starting May 5 and can be purchased
on pay pal.  As soon as I find out how, who and where, I'll let you
guys know...  As I said, I have a feeling this event will be sold out
for sure...



  


  


Re: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313

2008-05-06 Thread Richard Hester

Hee, Hee... I'm old enough to get that one...

Robert Taylor wrote:
Underpants is a great tune 



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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 May 2008 16:28

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313

He was certainly a guy who caught my attention at the time and I went on
liking for time afterward.  I liked The Garden LP best I think.  When I
first saw Gary Newman on Top Of The Pops I thought hey, he looks like
he's trying to rip off that other guy from a few weeks back's style
;-)




From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 May 2008 15:57

Has anyone seen John Foxx's recent live shows? He must be a 
significant influence on techno and electro but most of my geeky 
buddies don't know his work at all! I think Gary Numan gets more 
props. That actually would have been a good act to bill for the 
festival, but admittedly he's obscure for a wider audience. Metamatic 
was re-released last year I believe.


Re: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313

2008-05-06 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I think Numan has identified Foxx as an influence, ironically. Foxx  
was leading Ultravox before Gary appeared on the scene. In fact  
Ultravox worked with Brian Eno before Bowie approached him for Low.
He performs old Ultravox stuff in his set (ie pre Midge Ure), his  
seminal records Underpass  Burning Car, and some later material. He  
is also doing a live score to his Tiny Colour Movies in Melbourne at  
ACMI on Friday night if anyone is around! Foxx's MySpace and site are  
pretty cool. Juan and Carl are even mentioned in his bio so he's  
obviously aware of Detroit sounds.


Also I read an amazing interview with Numan in Mojo lately where he  
discussed his having Asperger's syndrome, a kind of autism from what  
I understand - totally changes your understanding of his music. Deep,  
eh?





On 07/05/2008, at 1:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

He was certainly a guy who caught my attention at the time and I  
went on liking for time afterward.  I liked The Garden LP best I
think.  When I first saw Gary Newman on Top Of The Pops I thought  
hey, he looks like he's trying to rip off that other guy from a

few weeks back's style  ;-)




From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 May 2008 15:57

Has anyone seen John Foxx's recent live shows? He must be a
significant influence on techno and electro but most of my geeky
buddies don't know his work at all! I think Gary Numan gets more
props. That actually would have been a good act to bill for the
festival, but admittedly he's obscure for a wider audience. Metamatic
was re-released last year I believe.